I need help to investigate Blitzboy and need DT members to tag him.

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After reading this thread I remembered I sent Blitzboy a PM some months ago asking for an explanation since he did not post in this thread. I cannot recall why I did not follow it up, maybe it was because of things happening outside this forum in real life.

Back then, I was the on the verge of tagging the Blitzboy account if not for anything else then for at least ban evasion just as yahoo62278 did but now I will go through some of the threads/posts to re-familiarise myself before I come to a decision.

I will also send him a PM asking him to post here to clarify what happened.

Quote from: nutildah on March 28, 2023, 08:28:04 AM

He doesn't need to respond, its a moot point as we both already acknowledged he's a good forum member. I mainly just bumped this thread because of Blitzboy's AI-generated posts but after doing some additional research it became apparent the account changed hands several years ago.

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I am making my conclusion in the reputation matter.

Last few days I exchanged several PMs with BitMaxz. Here are my takes:
BitMaxz is not the original owner of the account. It's changed hand and before the changed hand it was (as may be from current BitMaxz owner) relate to Blitzboy or anyone else. But the current owner confess that he does not know any of them. He sounds gentle and informative, his voice sounds reliable so I will count his words. Considering the quality posting from the current BitMaxz account owner, from my best believe the forum needs more members like him. No matter what motivation they have, they are eventually helping the community and that's very important.

I will not tag or even leave a neutral feedback for BitMaxz account. The account is so familiar that I believe it does nor require such warning. If anything happen in the future then spotting it is very easy.

BitMaxz does not want to comment in this matter on this thread which is why we never seen him to comment here. Everyone has their freedom and I will give that to him.

For me the case is close and I have good wishes for BitMaxz.

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on March 28, 2023, 05:21:53 AM

Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on March 27, 2023, 06:18:38 PM

Problem is, he isn't helping us to understand what happened. He's just quiet on the whole issue.

I guess no one sent him a PM yet, people can miss a lot of things. I sent him a PM.

He doesn't need to respond, its a moot point as we both already acknowledged he's a good forum member. I mainly just bumped this thread because of Blitzboy's AI-generated posts but after doing some additional research it became apparent the account changed hands several years ago.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on March 27, 2023, 06:18:38 PM

Problem is, he isn't helping us to understand what happened. He's just quiet on the whole issue.

I guess no one sent him a PM yet, people can miss a lot of things. I sent him a PM.

Quote from: nutildah on March 27, 2023, 04:50:08 AM

If the account sale happened several years ago, which appears to be the case, I would not tag BitMaxz now as he seems to be a valuable contributor to the forum. I'm waiting to find out if Blitzboy should be banned or red tagged for AI posting. Not sure what the consensus is on that yet.

It counts and changes the dimension. There are not many people as knowledgeable as him so he is a good asset for the community. If the account changed a long time ago and it's under control of the current owner for long time, additionally the feedback earned are under the current owners possession then I do not think it alerts a tag. In fact it's a good thing that through the account we have now a good forum member.

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Quote from: nutildah on March 27, 2023, 02:17:32 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

It's nice to see you're thinking about investing in XRP. I cannot give personal financial advice as an AI language model, but I can provide some basic facts and observations.

When it comes to XRP and the ongoing legal battle between Ripple and the SEC, it's critical to stay up to date on the newest developments. If XRP prevails in the court, its value may rise dramatically in the immediate term. However, I believe it is important to proceed with care and not get too caught up in the hoopla. The cryptocurrency market is inherently unpredictable, and the price may fall just as rapidly as it can climb.
...

LOL! And to think that people would be more careful not to give themselves away when using ChatGPT... Roll Eyes

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Quote from: nutildah on March 27, 2023, 04:50:08 AM

My hesitancy in tagging BitMaxz now lies in the fact that the Blitzboy account seems to have been transferred in Jan of this year as it woke and changed passwords after a 1.5 year hiatus. There's a good chance the account has actually changed hands at least a couple of times because looking thru BitMaxz's posts he seems to be far more knowledgeable than whoever owns Blitzboy now or the previous owner, as well.

Good point, there is indeed a clear difference in posting between those two accounts.

Quote from: nutildah on March 27, 2023, 04:50:08 AM

I'm waiting to find out if Blitzboy should be banned or red tagged for AI posting. Not sure what the consensus is on that yet.

As I showed you in that other topic, several accounts already got banned for use of ChatGPT. The only difference is that Blitzboy is a high ranking account and banned ones were newbies and we know for some time that admins are less inclined to ban higher ranking accounts for one or two cases of plagiarism. Imho its a better approach than insta banning everyone who copied even a sentence (like they did in the past) as forum lost some good members that way, but there should be some punishment (e.g signature ban).

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Quote from: nutildah on March 27, 2023, 04:50:08 AM

My hesitancy in tagging BitMaxz now lies in the fact that the Blitzboy account seems to have been transferred in Jan of this year as it woke and changed passwords after a 1.5 year hiatus. There's a good chance the account has actually changed hands at least a couple of times because looking thru BitMaxz's posts he seems to be far more knowledgeable than whoever owns Blitzboy now or the previous owner, as well.

If the account sale happened several years ago, which appears to be the case, I would not tag BitMaxz now as he seems to be a valuable contributor to the forum. I'm waiting to find out if Blitzboy should be banned or red tagged for AI posting. Not sure what the consensus is on that yet.

I have had the same thoughts. I believe the Blitzboy account changed hands a while back, given how BitMaxz has been posting and how knowledgeable he is. I don't think he could just resort to copying and pasting from chatGPT a few years later.

Problem is, he isn't helping us to understand what happened. He's just quiet on the whole issue.

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Quote from: crairezx20 on January 16, 2020, 10:12:13 AM

I just need your help to investigate this account Blitzboy and tag with negative trust because my account was affected by his mess trying to Join on the same campaign([ur=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5216176.msg53590890#msg53590890l]LuckyBit[/url])

To me i believe it's inappropriate to request someone to tag an account on just a normal incident that could happen to anyone, though am not in support of those abusing the whole thing but the DT members have their reputation they are building also and not just in tagging accounts they aren't sure of the major offense or wrong done by the user else this itself will be an abuse on the use of the trust system.

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My hesitancy in tagging BitMaxz now lies in the fact that the Blitzboy account seems to have been transferred in Jan of this year as it woke and changed passwords after a 1.5 year hiatus. There's a good chance the account has actually changed hands at least a couple of times because looking thru BitMaxz's posts he seems to be far more knowledgeable than whoever owns Blitzboy now or the previous owner, as well.

If the account sale happened several years ago, which appears to be the case, I would not tag BitMaxz now as he seems to be a valuable contributor to the forum. I'm waiting to find out if Blitzboy should be banned or red tagged for AI posting. Not sure what the consensus is on that yet.

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Quote from: Rikafip on March 27, 2023, 04:05:47 AM

Quote from: Blitzboy on April 14, 2016, 09:55:21 PM

Name: Blitzboy
Post count: 31 (including this post)
Rank: Jr. member
Bitcoin address: 12iyKZkdZigqKMQ4BvBMNtUUMj1PcYJtmw
Thanks.

https://ninjastic.space/post/14544178

Quote from: BitMaxz on April 24, 2016, 10:50:04 AM

Done signing up for his offer Heres my username: Arvinzx my btc address: 12iyKZkdZigqKMQ4BvBMNtUUMj1PcYJtmw
I hope i will receive the rewards in few hours..

https://ninjastic.space/post/14650984

This is very convincing. Sorry I am out of merit.

Please correct me where I am wrong.
BitMaxz is ban evading.
BitMaxz is using chatbot to post form another alt account.

Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on March 27, 2023, 04:22:33 AM

It's a pretty reliable tool i have used in the past to discover two huge signature cheating account farms
1. A Farm of High Ranking accounts abusing Sig. Campaigns - Ban Evasion.
2. A Large Farm of accounts cheating on Sig. Campaigns [HUGE UPDATE! 04/28/2020]

It's shit load of information for me to read all LOL
My eyes are fucked. Good job!

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on March 27, 2023, 03:18:01 AM

Quote

Part of wallet https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/016e6d7cf163f8b7/addresses

How does this explorer work?
I don't think it's able to pull data of all addresses from an HD wallet.
It's pulling addresses from explorer that is connected in transactions and it can easily be misguided a transaction where the change address does not look like a change address but an actual payment address looks like a change address. I need to understand how it finds the wallet ID.

It groups addresses together if those addresses have their Bitcoins get co-spent or act as inputs in one transaction. This simply means both addresses belong to the same wallet. If the address in an HD wallet has never received and co-spent any bitcoins in a single transaction. That address does not get grouped by the walletexplorer.

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on March 27, 2023, 03:18:01 AM

Anyway, that's not the topic to discuss. I am just saying, I am not going to relay on the explorer.

It's a pretty reliable tool i have used in the past to discover two huge signature cheating account farms
1. A Farm of High Ranking accounts abusing Sig. Campaigns - Ban Evasion.
2. A Large Farm of accounts cheating on Sig. Campaigns [HUGE UPDATE! 04/28/2020]

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on March 27, 2023, 03:18:01 AM

How does this explorer work?

Here is detailed explanation how wallet explorer works and how it connects the addresses: https://www.walletexplorer.com/info

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on March 27, 2023, 03:18:01 AM

There should have some other solid connections. It worth looking for. If I am not wrong BitMaxz was a regular in Chipmixer campaign so he does not seem to be a chatbot shitposter.

Wallet explorer was not the only evidence as there's also use of the same address which in most cases is usually enough to prove the connection and as you can see, Blitzboy actually used the address first meaning we can exclude the scenario in which he copied BitMaxz address in the first place.

Quote from: Blitzboy on April 14, 2016, 09:55:21 PM

Name: Blitzboy
Post count: 31 (including this post)
Rank: Jr. member
Bitcoin address: 12iyKZkdZigqKMQ4BvBMNtUUMj1PcYJtmw
Thanks.

https://ninjastic.space/post/14544178

Quote from: BitMaxz on April 24, 2016, 10:50:04 AM

Done signing up for his offer Heres my username: Arvinzx my btc address: 12iyKZkdZigqKMQ4BvBMNtUUMj1PcYJtmw
I hope i will receive the rewards in few hours..

https://ninjastic.space/post/14650984

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Quote from: Rikafip on March 27, 2023, 02:50:42 AM

Quote from: nutildah on March 27, 2023, 02:17:32 AM

The larger question is should posting what is clearly AI-generated text be a tag-able offense?

Afaik, those who plagiarize don't usually get negative feedback so I am not sure that is the right course of action even for members that use chatbots. Its probably better to try get them banned intead, but its easier said than done as in some cases its hard to prove beyond reasonable doubt that someone used chatbot.

I think the community is still unsure what to do against these chatbox spammers. If there are any voting initiated by anyone then I will definitely go with "Yes to tag them"

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Quote from: nutildah on March 27, 2023, 02:17:32 AM

Is there a reason why BitMaxz shouldn't be tagged along with Blitzboy? The reason I ask is I found Blitzboy is pretty clearly posting AI-generated text:

How come he went all these years without getting even a neutral tag saying he is Blitzboy's alt? The evidence presented by marloboroza wasn't convincing enough for anyone?

Quote from: nutildah on March 27, 2023, 02:17:32 AM

The larger question is should posting what is clearly AI-generated text be a tag-able offense?

Afaik, those who plagiarize don't usually get negative feedback so I am not sure that is the right course of action even for members that use chatbots. Its probably better to try get them banned intead, but its easier said than done as in some cases its hard to prove beyond reasonable doubt that someone used chatbot.

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Quote from: marlboroza on January 16, 2020, 11:50:57 AM

Quote from: marlboroza on January 16, 2020, 09:42:09 AM

Signed message by account Blitzboy https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15923744 and the same address was used by account BitMaxz https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14650984.

Quote from: Blitzboy on August 14, 2016, 04:45:29 PM

Hi requesting loan for 0.025 repayment 0.027

Here my account address : 1AvRNRXruPgCnervh4VTpZGgShEC8G9WjG

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/loan-0025-btc-repayment-0027-loan-1584539 --> signed message (1Eg5cXPCqBnpYJCoTornGAKCGAzyzAvJgq) by Blitzboy

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/loan-005-without-collateral-kindly-needed-1716351 --> signed message (1Fh2GwdSfSDpfB5PpYjscB9u2inCoTmumX) by Bitmaxz

Part of wallet https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/016e6d7cf163f8b7/addresses

Is there a reason why BitMaxz shouldn't be tagged along with Blitzboy? The reason I ask is I found Blitzboy is pretty clearly posting AI-generated text:

Quote from: ?? on ??

It's nice to see you're thinking about investing in XRP. I cannot give personal financial advice as an AI language model, but I can provide some basic facts and observations.

When it comes to XRP and the ongoing legal battle between Ripple and the SEC, it's critical to stay up to date on the newest developments. If XRP prevails in the court, its value may rise dramatically in the immediate term. However, I believe it is important to proceed with care and not get too caught up in the hoopla. The cryptocurrency market is inherently unpredictable, and the price may fall just as rapidly as it can climb.
...

I'm assuming the Blitzboy account was sold sometime after Dec 2016?

Found another alt based on the addresses in this wallet:

Quote from: ?? on ??

here is the sign message

----starting sign---
This is airezx20 borrowing a loan 0.02 repayment 0.022 today is 7/20/2016
----Address and signature----
1PHHhAdFNc7aJVsiz9ymhzmcSZn4sdGMQg

H8UoelGR7qRs/nyqUcaN2QME8OG1ZIg3Fdja903YlsveXccK9Bk9kDHGODc+5Af15m+MUkNhQplpb9PtlBJYSJo=

----End of sign-----

Sorry for wrong format of signing in.. this is electrum generated.

Apparently the connection was first noted in Oct 2016.

The larger question is should posting what is clearly AI-generated text be a tag-able offense?

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Quote from: suchmoon on January 18, 2020, 08:29:01 AM

skip

Sorry, it's my fault. It seems I missed something important, even though I read it a long time ago Embarrassed

Quote from: yahoo62278 on January 18, 2020, 10:25:37 AM

I'll change my feedback to ban evaders so that my feedback is accurate.

At least a part of my thinking is right LOL Grin

Another negative trust about Blitzboy will be more reasonable Cheesy

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on January 18, 2020, 08:20:17 AM

Quote from: yahoo62278 on January 17, 2020, 02:07:47 PM

Looks to me like crairezx20 sold the account from 1 of his alt accounts(frilledshark maybe), then there was some loan bs going on in the middle. Either way Blitzboy needs banned along with the OP for ban evasion as he clearly states his main account was banned.

I'm not sure my thinking is right, but I'd say it here.
In this case: the two accounts are related by buying and selling, and for the moment, these two accounts are owned by two different people, so I think that negative trust is not reasonable. Of course action is on you, I just give my opinion.

Also, if his account was banned from 4 years ago, I don't know what the reason is. But I don't see any rule if a user's account will be banned if an other account has been banned. Personally, 4 years is a very long time, users can become better. I did not defend him, but look at the amount of money he used to buy Blitzboy, I just feel pity, an account at the hero member is being thrown away LOL Grin

Just a personal opinion, hopefully I'm not hated Cheesy

Both users could be tagged for multiple reasons depending on a DT members view.

Ban evasion, account selling, and campaign abuse if you don't believe the evidence.

I'll change my feedback to ban evaders so that my feedback is accurate.

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on January 18, 2020, 08:20:17 AM

But I don't see any rule if a user's account will be banned if an other account has been banned.

Quote from: mprep on July 21, 2014, 12:27:51 PM

25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.[e]
[...]
25. If you get banned (temporarily or permanently) and create a new account to continue posting / sending PMs, it's considered ban evasion. The only exception is creating a thread in Meta about your ban.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on January 17, 2020, 02:07:47 PM

Looks to me like crairezx20 sold the account from 1 of his alt accounts(frilledshark maybe), then there was some loan bs going on in the middle. Either way Blitzboy needs banned along with the OP for ban evasion as he clearly states his main account was banned.

I'm not sure my thinking is right, but I'd say it here.
In this case: the two accounts are related by buying and selling, and for the moment, these two accounts are owned by two different people, so I think that negative trust is not reasonable. Of course action is on you, I just give my opinion.

Also, if his account was banned from 4 years ago, I don't know what the reason is. But I don't see any rule if a user's account will be banned if an other account has been banned. Personally, 4 years is a very long time, users can become better. I did not defend him, but look at the amount of money he used to buy Blitzboy, I just feel pity, an account at the hero member is being thrown away LOL Grin

Just a personal opinion, hopefully I'm not hated Cheesy

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I was messaged by marlboroza about this case as the 2 accounts crairezx20 and Blitzboy had both applied into the Luckybit sig campaign. After tagging both accounts messaging them to remove their sig, I received PM communication from both.

Quote from: Blitzboy on November 06, 2017, 07:17:37 AM

I have sent 0.028 to your address. So i will be a new owner of this account. Thanks for your service
Regards
However, can you make a sign message for me ?
Here you go my friend. I can also see you have repaid the loan fully. You can write in Blitzboy's thread like you have repaid the loan. FrilledShark should confirm it.
BlitzBoy =
Code:

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is Blitzboy borrowing 0.025 btc repayment 0.027 after 7 day to FrilledShark today is 09/04/2016 if im default FrilledShark is the new owner
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1AvRNRXruPgCnervh4VTpZGgShEC8G9WjG
H4L+hLFIY0pCdMioPHeDhhv/UG0fBEG/1Mm5sYMtUsFLCJnCSysbblClkGC3QgC64MZ+YMkxVaZyVe59TbuRHGc=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

FrilledShark =
Code:

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
As of writting - 27/09/2016 - AccountSeller2000 is the new owner of Blitzboy.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1EJmUKAbfbhoTBpFnSKZ4Y4GhXatttPUPU
IGKYCaIyFPD6xMsS/CU2Nie4lRWYcnUqnu0A5DzW4WVPBNfvTsBpT0Ijv8vjVXClSjZR+IUvMrs+h6rsgJKO6Bw=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

AccountSeller2000 =
Code:

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
mileymatmun is the new owner of BlitzBoy. Today = 29/09/16
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1FFsePGoZSv6pNb4jY2nT4DHFzeutQpMJd
H+WFuSj4USfKQ2x3g8dvFnvvrht08u2EVyVgONcT9iyQBmH7CbGMPTNCxIG/WZu0uKrJJzjIJVD2QgzuxtXFTDk=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Back in 2016 I bought this account from in order to save it for the future. Mileymatmun is my main account. However, mileymatmun have been banned for 4 years so this account become my main acc for years since then

Looks to me like crairezx20 sold the account from 1 of his alt accounts(frilledshark maybe), then there was some loan bs going on in the middle. Either way Blitzboy needs banned along with the OP for ban evasion as he clearly states his main account was banned.

I don't usually share PMs but this case needed the evidence provided.

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