Topic: I need your advice. Administration is powerless. (Read 579 times)

But I want to say:
Hey! "ibminer", why are you so cowardly that you send your friends to swear with me, and not yourself write here?

If you look at your merits, then:
Merit summary for bitperson

Merit summary for nullius

Merit summary for ibminer

I would not be surprised if you, ibminer hide under the masks nullius, bitperson and you are afraid to talk to me yourself.

It's funny to see how people try to imagine something.
Does this dialogue concern you? No. Then why are you here in the subject?
This is called jackals =)
I wanted to bring one user to the conversation, and instead of it I got a lot of internet trolls.
Guys, you are not interesting to me. You do not interest anyone at all. Your opinion is not interesting to anyone but you. You judge people by your little world, an abandoned swamp.
I wanted to solve the problem, but, as I see it, the problem can not be solved here.
It is a pity that in this topic I have not met a single adult. Some offended children.

I guess you and most everyone else would define ‘the problem’ differently. The way I see it, things are looking pretty good: you have been reprimanded for incentivising other users to spam, and, if I understand correctly, you have decided (or at least promised) not to do it again. So the community might not have to deal with any more spam instigated by you. Should your negative trust remain for some time, including until eternity, I don’t see that as a problem, as that makes it at least somewhat more difficult for you to reoffend.

With all the forum space taken up by spam orchestrated by ‘successful bounty managers’, surely there is also room for a teensy weensy little negative trust documenting your ways. Ordering other community members to remove themselves from a public discussion about the spam problem you are part of seems pretty standard spammer behaviour. I assume you would prefer us to discuss how poor little legitimate businessman you is being pushed around by this anti-spam ‘mafia’, and that you don’t take kindly to having it pointed out to you that spammers, if any, are the mafia here, polluting this discussion forum for everyone in exchange for a quick buck for themselves. Thank you for being such an example to others who may be contemplating a path similar to the one you have chosen.

(That last was added within about two minutes of posting.)

PM:


(You may notice that my trust page has a few others like that from kooks and crooks like you.  They amuse me.)

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Baseless accusation of a conspiracy?  Check.  It’s a spammer.  Spammers are always the same.

For the record, aTriz has neither contacted me about this, nor spoken to me about it in any way.  Not that that’s any of your business.  Spammer.

Being at least minimally literate in the English language, I am perfectly capable of reading all the words stated publicly in this thread.  Yours, aTriz’s, and otherwise.


Taken under advisement.  Having considered your advice, I shall now proceed to do whatever I please.

My own advice to you is that you quit whining, and leave the forum.

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The major problem was solved when ibminer left you negative trust feedback.

The only remaining problem is that you continue to whine.  [Edit:  Plus the accounts which left you farmed positive feedback.  Thanks for reminding me; I’ve been slack.]

I will repeat it once more - I want to solve the problem.
ibminer, how do we solve the problem?

As far as I understand, you are now specifically fanning the problem, trying to increase the conflict. What for?
And judging by the reviews on your "Trust" page - you are a friend of "aTriz" and it was he who asked you to create a conflict with me.

You are not needed here, you are not welcome here. This conversation does not concern you. Be kind, do not interfere.

As a forum user who has suffered significantly from the spam problem, I have left my own feedback for #1183469 “trugad”.  Note the long list of users who have submitted what on the face of things is farmed positive trust feedback.  (I took a screenshot of the same list, although I have not yet uploaded it anywhere.)

Date: 2018-02-25
Reference: https://web.archive.org/web/20180225005717/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3014024.0
Risked BTC amount: 0.00000000


Whines > /dev/null.

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Edit, P.S.:  In case that last line be ignored, I reserve the right to publicly post PMs, e-mails, etc. from spammers and/or spam supporters and/or spammer supporters.

Edit:  Fixed two typographical errors.  Also fixed in the trust feedback.

But your Trust is "Trust farming".




I have customer feedback, which I asked to write, and not to voice personally.


I did not understand this. Rephrase.

I do not deny my guilt, but I corrected my mistakes and ask to remove the punishment. Especially since this is my only violation.
I repeat: I do not want to conflict. I want to solve this problem. It really hinders my work.

I just want to sort it out humanely, and not "guilty-shot."

Threads are stickied for a reason. I suggest you read them. Ignorance of the rules is not an excuse.

Trust farming.

Quoted for reference.

You were the person you added the rule first. Someone's salty?

Well thank you. I will write a "ibminer" letter and ask him to write here. But it is unlikely that he will do it.
And I wrote here not to complain, but to help my older comrades solve the problem.
Thank you for your advice.

Only users on DT list that will actually change your trust points, but that doesn't mean you should PM DT members and begging for +trust (You are asking for more -neg at that point).
If you think your -neg trust are not fair, try to PM the one who gave you the -neg and ask him for a discussion here.

Whether they ‘count’ is up to each user, but I guess most leave their trust settings at the default. You can read about the trust system here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/marketplace-trust-211858.

And, with reference to your previous question in this thread: yes, anyone has the right to choose whom to trust and distrust. If a default trust member distrusts you, that will be clearly visible to anyone who trusts the default trust members. If you want ibminer to change their mind about you, my suggestion is to not be a pain in their ass, e.g. by stalking them or posting conspiracy theories. Nobody here is entitled to be trusted by anyone.

And then another question: how to earn a positive "trust"? I asked my clients to write me a positive opinion, but they do not count.

That is, any competitor can be "removed" like this at the touch of a button and no one can do anything?

Mods have NOTHING to do with his rating. The only person that can remove the rating is the one that left it.

Hello.
The situation is this: by its stupidity I decided to experiment with some parts in my bounty campaigns. Created a reward in coins in the project for the fact that people will communicate in the ANN thread of one of my client's projects.
I naively believed that if the forum is full of announcements about the services of paid publications - then this can be done in the campaign bounty without resorting to such services.
Yes, it turned out that there is such a rule: you can not pay for posts, for communication on the forum.
This is my mistake, I did not know, but it does not exclude my guilt, I agree.

The user "ibminer" (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ibminer-84866) did not write to me about the fact that this can not be done, that it should be removed. Well, that is humanly to do. He decided to do differently - he simply filed a complaint, and the moderator complied with this complaint. And I was painted in red. Now my trust rating: -2.
I wrote several letters to the user "ibminer" with a request to withdraw my report, that I understood my mistake and will not do this in the future. He just ignores my messages. To his colleague, I wrote a letter that he would pass my request to my friend - he blocked me.
I wrote to the administrator "mprep", he said that he can not do anything.

I also want to say that I am a bounty manager and I work quite successfully, but now I have problems, because clients do not want to contact the user with a red "trust". A "ibminer" is a member of the team that create a bounty campaign.

In the end, we get that you can remove any competitor with one button, which is what Legendary does. Mafia =)

From here I have a question for you: what do you think, what to do in such a situation? Just forget about this account and get another account? Well, they and the new account at their will - can also "delete".