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Topic: I put zero fee & it's still unconfirmed after 66 solved blocks (Read 4813 times)

sr. member
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Relax!
Huh, very interesting, man. I think miners or full nodes should drop transactions with not enough fees (if they don't intend to include them in a block) in favour of the transaction with transaction fees!
newbie
Activity: 29
Merit: 0
Your transaction has finally been confirmed. https://blockchain.info/tx/773ab9373b8a26914efa5b2ac2ba0b52b6657c59b5e6cb788d1c2b34c5528e22
Congrats, and you shouldn't make a zero fee transaction next time. Smiley

Yes that one got confirmed! So I got my coins off blockchain.info but my next transaction moving the coins off my mobile into primedice.com
https://blockchain.info/tx/516fd6543d063ee4e1cc338c68f9ae3e76a3deb85cc2e83315e7eaf1aa4aea3e sent 0.00001000 fee automatically.

I had no choice, I was looking through the menu & there seems to be no option to change the fee on the bitcoin mobile app.  Sad still waiting...
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
its strange payment not conformed

Do not make Zero fees
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1000
This is getting annoying, I have been waiting so long to move $7 worth of BTC and no confirmations. Miners didn't accept my free transaction & now miners don't accept my transactions after I included a small fee. It's greedy of them to ignore it when they don't think my fee is high enough. What's wrong with 1000 satoshi? Wat do they want 50000 or something? Roll Eyes The miners should include all transactions, it's not like the fees support the network. The fee amount is tiny compared to the 25 they get every 10 minutes. Miners are earning hundreds of BTC per day and they are so greedy they won't put some transactions in the next block unless you are paying the highest fees. They would rather screw people over leaving them waiting days while we wonder where our money went. I didn't even specify the fee amount, I used whatever the wallet default was WTF.  Angry
 

Dude you are greedy to put atleast 10k satoshi fee wtf is up with you? Just use 10 or 20k and it will be confirmed really fast.
How is that greedy? Who cares what he is paying to, it isn't your business.
The point is, if a guy don't want to pay a fee it shouldn't be this hard and it should still go through.
Maybe they don't have the extra 20k to give.
Wow at that response, did you read the whole thread prior to attacking me? He has it on gambling that he will loose probably anyway and he doesn't have 2 cents to pay fees? U serious.
Yes and obviously you didn't comprehend "who cares who he is paying to."
The point is transaction fees, not who they pay or how they spend it.
everyone is all big about paying the tax. man up and pay it for him.
Pay it for him? Lol and how? And why? That's retarded argument.
hero member
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Your transaction has finally been confirmed. https://blockchain.info/tx/773ab9373b8a26914efa5b2ac2ba0b52b6657c59b5e6cb788d1c2b34c5528e22
Congrats, and you shouldn't make a zero fee transaction next time. Smiley
hero member
Activity: 614
Merit: 500
My double spend warning is gone & I got this email from blockchain.info just now:



So my transaction https://blockchain.info/tx/a1faf7b6db5bb4ef4a39911ca54152df57758e128cd19fbf16178aea59e06c87 is sent to my mobile wallet with a fee of 0.00001000 & the greedy miners are still ignoring my transaction.

Again unconfirmed transactions and it's been like 20 blocks already. I tried to move my coins again now into prime dice & it's costing me more fees & still unconfirmed Sad I'm getting the warning: "This transaction spends an input which is unconfirmed."

I used the default fee that the program makes me use... so what's going on? Do I really have to pay 10000 Satoshis? Shocked Why isn't that the default then in the mobile app? This sucks I'll be waiting another 24 hours & that's if it gets reversed again. Who knows what to expect Undecided I will be devastated if I lose my $7 worth of bitcoins.

read this @picolo he got refund i think !

Not really. He is still waiting to get one of those double-spend transactions confirmed, and someone else was rebroadcasting those transactions for no reason.
Ume
full member
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Finding oNlinE JoB ---=== :)
My double spend warning is gone & I got this email from blockchain.info just now:



So my transaction https://blockchain.info/tx/a1faf7b6db5bb4ef4a39911ca54152df57758e128cd19fbf16178aea59e06c87 is sent to my mobile wallet with a fee of 0.00001000 & the greedy miners are still ignoring my transaction.

Again unconfirmed transactions and it's been like 20 blocks already. I tried to move my coins again now into prime dice & it's costing me more fees & still unconfirmed Sad I'm getting the warning: "This transaction spends an input which is unconfirmed."

I used the default fee that the program makes me use... so what's going on? Do I really have to pay 10000 Satoshis? Shocked Why isn't that the default then in the mobile app? This sucks I'll be waiting another 24 hours & that's if it gets reversed again. Who knows what to expect Undecided I will be devastated if I lose my $7 worth of bitcoins.

read this @picolo he got refund i think !
hero member
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If you go to "https://blockchain.info/tx/?format=hex" you can get the raw transaction of any particular transaction, and you can rebroadcast it on pages like https://blockchain.info/pushtx or on many wallet clients.

But as I said, I have no idea why someone would do that, as he has no benefits in doing so.

This is a huge flaw in BTC! Angry How the fuck am I supposed to get my bitcoin back? People are going to repeatedly rebroadcast my transactions that will never be confirmed because miners are greedy assholes.

It happened just now again! Angry Someone rebroadcasted my 2nd bitcoin transaction without my permission! Is there any way out of this unconfirmed limbo loop?! I just wanna get my coins the hell off blockchain.info!

Maybe lucky.bit rebroadcasts transactions automatically. Ask them, they should give you some informations because they must have the situation of small amounts sent without a fee quite often.

I asked : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=757624.2420
hero member
Activity: 614
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If you go to "https://blockchain.info/tx/?format=hex" you can get the raw transaction of any particular transaction, and you can rebroadcast it on pages like https://blockchain.info/pushtx or on many wallet clients.

But as I said, I have no idea why someone would do that, as he has no benefits in doing so.

This is a huge flaw in BTC! Angry How the fuck am I supposed to get my bitcoin back? People are going to repeatedly rebroadcast my transactions that will never be confirmed because miners are greedy assholes.

It happened just now again! Angry Someone rebroadcasted my 2nd bitcoin transaction without my permission! Is there any way out of this unconfirmed limbo loop?! I just wanna get my coins the hell off blockchain.info!

It won't be a problem for people rebroadcasting your second transaction (the one with fee). In fact, it is a good thing to you.

But if people keep rebroadcasting your first transaction (the one without fee), the bitcoin nodes will not drop it from their mempool and it will be hard for your second transaction to be relayed across the network and reach the miners.
newbie
Activity: 29
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If you go to "https://blockchain.info/tx/?format=hex" you can get the raw transaction of any particular transaction, and you can rebroadcast it on pages like https://blockchain.info/pushtx or on many wallet clients.

But as I said, I have no idea why someone would do that, as he has no benefits in doing so.

This is a huge flaw in BTC! Angry How the fuck am I supposed to get my bitcoin back? People are going to repeatedly rebroadcast my transactions that will never be confirmed because miners are greedy assholes.

It happened just now again! Angry Someone rebroadcasted my 2nd bitcoin transaction without my permission! Is there any way out of this unconfirmed limbo loop?! I just wanna get my coins the hell off blockchain.info!
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 500
I sent 0.03011627 BTC to LuckyBit blue yesterday, as a test I put zero fee & it's still confirmed after 66 solved blocks. I regret not including a fee but blockchain.info says the estimated confirmation time is "Within 6 Blocks (Medium Priority)". I have the Warning "The transaction fee is less than recommended." It's annoying that all miners are greedy and won't accept my transaction. This is killing me waiting over a day. I wanna play!

https://blockchain.info/tx/b1346f1ab63dc90cb592028e1f7283f02b54e46afb35b9145ad91ac2a55877be

There are too many transactions on the network, it seems my transaction will be stuck in limbo unconfirmed forever so how do I reverse my Bitcoin transaction with zero confirmations and try again with a fee? I tried importing my private key into my mobile wallet it says my balance is 0.03010627 with a 0.000010 fee and it says "This payment has not been transmitted yet."  Sad

If you send more than 1 BTC with no fee it will confirm but a small number of btc without a fee seems likely never to confirm.
hero member
Activity: 614
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Looks like someone has rebroadcast your original transaction to the network just now...
No idea who did that and why he did that, but the good news is others won't be able to alter the recipient address and steal your bitcoin.

Can you elaborate on that more? I don't understand how someone else can rebroadcast my old transaction that never got confirmed & was cancelled.

If you go to "https://blockchain.info/tx/?format=hex" you can get the raw transaction of any particular transaction, and you can rebroadcast it on pages like https://blockchain.info/pushtx or on many wallet clients.

But as I said, I have no idea why someone would do that, as he has no benefits in doing so.
newbie
Activity: 29
Merit: 0
Looks like someone has rebroadcast your original transaction to the network just now...
No idea who did that and why he did that, but the good news is others won't be able to alter the recipient address and steal your bitcoin.

Can you elaborate on that more? I don't understand how someone else can rebroadcast my old transaction that never got confirmed & was cancelled.
hero member
Activity: 614
Merit: 500
I didn't even touch my blockchain.info wallet today & I get an email just now saying a transaction was sent to lucky bit blue!  Shocked



I also have the double spend warning! All I did was wait patiently for this transaction to confirm: a1faf7b6db5bb4ef4a39911ca54152df57758e128cd19fbf16178aea59e06c87 & then automatically without asking me blockchain.info tried to send to luckybit blue again! here: b1346f1ab63dc90cb592028e1f7283f02b54e46afb35b9145ad91ac2a55877be also there was no fee just like before, I did not send this transaction! Somehow it resent my transaction that never got confirmed a few days ago automatically, WTF IS GOING ON!!



Looks like someone has rebroadcast your original transaction to the network just now...
No idea who did that and why he did that, but the good news is others won't be able to alter the recipient address and steal your bitcoin.
newbie
Activity: 29
Merit: 0
I didn't even touch my blockchain.info wallet today & I get an email just now saying a transaction was sent to lucky bit blue!  Shocked

https://i.imgur.com/Eou5Abp.png

I also have the double spend warning! All I did was wait patiently for this transaction to confirm: a1faf7b6db5bb4ef4a39911ca54152df57758e128cd19fbf16178aea59e06c87 & then automatically without asking me blockchain.info tried to send to luckybit blue again! here: b1346f1ab63dc90cb592028e1f7283f02b54e46afb35b9145ad91ac2a55877be also there was no fee just like before, I did not send this transaction! Somehow it resent my transaction that never got confirmed a few days ago automatically, WTF IS GOING ON!!

https://i.imgur.com/RPyAbcV.png
legendary
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Just looking for peace
I don't know much about this! but thanks to your thread , i ain't experimenting with my bitcoins .
paying a small fee is fine with me Smiley
sr. member
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Honest 80s business!
I sent 0.03011627 BTC to LuckyBit blue yesterday, as a test I put zero fee & it's still confirmed after 66 solved blocks. I regret not including a fee but blockchain.info says the estimated confirmation time is "Within 6 Blocks (Medium Priority)". I have the Warning "The transaction fee is less than recommended." It's annoying that all miners are greedy and won't accept my transaction. This is killing me waiting over a day. I wanna play!

https://blockchain.info/tx/b1346f1ab63dc90cb592028e1f7283f02b54e46afb35b9145ad91ac2a55877be

There are too many transactions on the network, it seems my transaction will be stuck in limbo unconfirmed forever so how do I reverse my Bitcoin transaction with zero confirmations and try again with a fee? I tried importing my private key into my mobile wallet it says my balance is 0.03010627 with a 0.000010 fee and it says "This payment has not been transmitted yet."  Sad
blockchain.info will automatically remove the tx after 48 hr (i think) BUT will auto send it again with a new tx but with same inputs and fee

the 0 fees not confirming occurred exactly after cex.io announce they paused cloudmining! coincidence?!

Yes unconfirmed tx will be removed after some days on blockchain.info, but no it won't create a new tx for you automatically. Instead, it will be back to the state before and you can create a new tx yourself.

I don't think they are related at all. Cex stopped mining on Jan 12 but Ghash continues to function, and there are some other pools and private farms out there.
BTW, my high-priority 0-fee transaction got confirmed without problem. Smiley

The transaction could theoretically be included in any arbitrarily chosen block in the future just as long as the original inputs have not been spent in the meantime. If people are experiencing a delay due to no transaction fees, they should just go ahead and re-broadcast the transaction with a fee.
hero member
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This is getting annoying, I have been waiting so long to move $7 worth of BTC and no confirmations. Miners didn't accept my free transaction & now miners don't accept my transactions after I included a small fee. It's greedy of them to ignore it when they don't think my fee is high enough. What's wrong with 1000 satoshi? Wat do they want 50000 or something? Roll Eyes The miners should include all transactions, it's not like the fees support the network. The fee amount is tiny compared to the 25 they get every 10 minutes. Miners are earning hundreds of BTC per day and they are so greedy they won't put some transactions in the next block unless you are paying the highest fees. They would rather screw people over leaving them waiting days while we wonder where our money went. I didn't even specify the fee amount, I used whatever the wallet default was WTF.  Angry
 

Dude you are greedy to put atleast 10k satoshi fee wtf is up with you? Just use 10 or 20k and it will be confirmed really fast.
How is that greedy? Who cares what he is paying to, it isn't your business.
The point is, if a guy don't want to pay a fee it shouldn't be this hard and it should still go through.
Maybe they don't have the extra 20k to give.
Wow at that response, did you read the whole thread prior to attacking me? He has it on gambling that he will loose probably anyway and he doesn't have 2 cents to pay fees? U serious.
Yes and obviously you didn't comprehend "who cares who he is paying to."
The point is transaction fees, not who they pay or how they spend it.
everyone is all big about paying the tax. man up and pay it for him.
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1000
This is getting annoying, I have been waiting so long to move $7 worth of BTC and no confirmations. Miners didn't accept my free transaction & now miners don't accept my transactions after I included a small fee. It's greedy of them to ignore it when they don't think my fee is high enough. What's wrong with 1000 satoshi? Wat do they want 50000 or something? Roll Eyes The miners should include all transactions, it's not like the fees support the network. The fee amount is tiny compared to the 25 they get every 10 minutes. Miners are earning hundreds of BTC per day and they are so greedy they won't put some transactions in the next block unless you are paying the highest fees. They would rather screw people over leaving them waiting days while we wonder where our money went. I didn't even specify the fee amount, I used whatever the wallet default was WTF.  Angry
 

Dude you are greedy to put atleast 10k satoshi fee wtf is up with you? Just use 10 or 20k and it will be confirmed really fast.
How is that greedy? Who cares what he is paying to, it isn't your business.
The point is, if a guy don't want to pay a fee it shouldn't be this hard and it should still go through.
Maybe they don't have the extra 20k to give.
Wow at that response, did you read the whole thread prior to attacking me? He has it on gambling that he will loose probably anyway and he doesn't have 2 cents to pay fees? U serious.
hero member
Activity: 544
Merit: 500
This is getting annoying, I have been waiting so long to move $7 worth of BTC and no confirmations. Miners didn't accept my free transaction & now miners don't accept my transactions after I included a small fee. It's greedy of them to ignore it when they don't think my fee is high enough. What's wrong with 1000 satoshi? Wat do they want 50000 or something? Roll Eyes The miners should include all transactions, it's not like the fees support the network. The fee amount is tiny compared to the 25 they get every 10 minutes. Miners are earning hundreds of BTC per day and they are so greedy they won't put some transactions in the next block unless you are paying the highest fees. They would rather screw people over leaving them waiting days while we wonder where our money went. I didn't even specify the fee amount, I used whatever the wallet default was WTF.  Angry
 

Dude you are greedy to put atleast 10k satoshi fee wtf is up with you? Just use 10 or 20k and it will be confirmed really fast.
How is that greedy? Who cares what he is paying to, it isn't your business.
The point is, if a guy don't want to pay a fee it shouldn't be this hard and it should still go through.
Maybe they don't have the extra 20k to give.
Still, 10k is less than 0.03$. Might as well pay the fee if you don't want to wait forever till it confirms. The fee is relatively insignificant compared to bank fees.  Roll Eyes
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