does it really matter who satoshi is,
how many know or care who alexander hamilton or King Offa of Mercia are and want to meet up with these guys for what they done.
just accept it an entity with a name made something.. now enjoy the rewards. knowing their true identity wont change anything and even knowing who, most of the forum readers here would not even do anything beyond it. so how about concentrate all your mind sets on main streaming bitcoin instead of who created it.
Topic: I Think I Know Who Satoshi Is - page 2. (Read 6088 times)
What is the earliest version of the code, or how to find the earliest version of the code written by "Satoshi"?
Might be of interest: https://github.com/trottier/original-bitcoin/tree/master/src
You have it the wrong way around based on the timeline
Having a good proper English spellcheck is actually hard, compared to the many american based ones you get for free with most writing software tools these days. Darn you Americans owning the world lol.
So if Satoshi has great British writing style in 2009, why is Shinichi Mochizuki so very very american. it could be argued that a British expert would use a cheap software defaulted to American and allowed all of the British spellings be transformed into American.
But an American writing the white paper AND many, many lines of code and emails over several months to write in British style. now that takes some effort.
remember Satoshi did not just write the white paper, there is code in the github and email correspondence which can show that Satoshi's writing is very much British education based.
although i do not care about Satoshi's true identity, i do like to correct people when they are grabbing at straws.
i will now leave you with a quote from someone else with a hidden identity:
Dark Knight
Having a good proper English spellcheck is actually hard, compared to the many american based ones you get for free with most writing software tools these days. Darn you Americans owning the world lol.
So if Satoshi has great British writing style in 2009, why is Shinichi Mochizuki so very very american. it could be argued that a British expert would use a cheap software defaulted to American and allowed all of the British spellings be transformed into American.
But an American writing the white paper AND many, many lines of code and emails over several months to write in British style. now that takes some effort.
remember Satoshi did not just write the white paper, there is code in the github and email correspondence which can show that Satoshi's writing is very much British education based.
although i do not care about Satoshi's true identity, i do like to correct people when they are grabbing at straws.
i will now leave you with a quote from someone else with a hidden identity:
Quote
It's not who you are underneath, but what you do that defines you.
Dark Knight
For someone as clever as Shinichi, faking an entire "British" persona may not be as challenging you would envision.
Perhaps you're right, Shinichi isn't Satoshi.
But we're all assuming that Satoshi is one person.
Perhaps Shinichi is a part of Satoshi - the group.
... to a western eye he definitely looks like a little nakamotoesque ...
and his web page is fun http://www.kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~motizuki/top-english.htmlBut I don't think so. The ABC conjecture dump is an interesting move ... but it was same tactic employed by Grigori Perelman with his Poincare Conjecture proof.
Basically, mainstream academia is no longer the place to publish seminal works because the mediocrity encountered is too boring to bother with for geniuses who "do not suffer fools gladly" ... and the Internet gives them another option.
Waxwing have a lot of good rebuttals.
Still - this person may not have studied math or have a math-related job. Remember that american chess-dude who was somewhat excentric?
If Satoshi is a single person, that person is likely also a bit excentric... Not only did he create BTC with framework pretty much alone - he also just disappeared at some point and there are lots of untouched BTC at the start of the blockchain.
It may very well be some guy living a pretty anonymous existence, fiddling with whatever he finds interesting atm.
Still - this person may not have studied math or have a math-related job. Remember that american chess-dude who was somewhat excentric?
If Satoshi is a single person, that person is likely also a bit excentric... Not only did he create BTC with framework pretty much alone - he also just disappeared at some point and there are lots of untouched BTC at the start of the blockchain.
It may very well be some guy living a pretty anonymous existence, fiddling with whatever he finds interesting atm.
Satoshi is not Shinichi Mochizuki.
Why, you may ask?
Simply because Satoshi wrote his bitcoin white paper in British English, not American English.
Theater = American.
Theatre= British.
Functorially=American.
Functorialy=British.
color=American.
colour=British.
If you are looking for someone with an Asian heritage to be the real identity of Satoshi, you may want to atleast look into a British based English language education of the suspect. 'Princeton' is not British.
End of discussion
Why, you may ask?
Simply because Satoshi wrote his bitcoin white paper in British English, not American English.
Theater = American.
Theatre= British.
Functorially=American.
Functorialy=British.
color=American.
colour=British.
If you are looking for someone with an Asian heritage to be the real identity of Satoshi, you may want to atleast look into a British based English language education of the suspect. 'Princeton' is not British.
End of discussion
Well said, I thought this when I looked it up almost A WEEK AGO. This Ted Nelson guy uploaded this theory on the 17th yet I found this on the 11th
http://ownlifeful.blogspot.sk/2013/05/bitcoin-creator-satoshi-nakamoto.html
and came to the same conclusion as Franky.
Read the language used here: http://www.kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~motizuki/thoughts-english.html
It's very different than the language he used on this forum if they are the same person.
It's very different than the language he used on this forum if they are the same person.
The issue about British spelling may not seem to be very compelling but when you combine it with the British (and very British at that) newspaper headline in the genesis block, and the use of phrases like "bloody hard", it becomes difficult to ignore the Ockham's Razor argument here.
For what it's worth my sense, after reading as much of his stuff as I could find, was that this is possibly a high functioning autistic ("I'm better with code than with words.."), grew up in England most likely (although other countries are possible for sure), and due to outstanding thinking skills most likely studied at Cambridge, most likely Mathematics, probably around 30-40 at the time of creating Bitcoin, maybe worked in the Finance industry in the City (a very normal outcome for such a person after studying at Cambridge), and this would have naturally led to an interest in the issues that Bitcoin is designed to address.
The video was fun, but the suggestion is somewhat ridiculous. Mochizuki has been working on ABC intensively for many years (certainly overlapping with the period when Satoshi was actively developing BTC), and his colleagues will attest to this (although apparently none of them really understand it). You might as well suggest Andrew Wiles developed Google on the side while proving Fermat's Last Theorem.
I also heard someone suggest that Satoshi is Grigoriy Perelman, the Russian who solved the Poincare suggestion. It seems people have the idea that only the best mathematician in the world could have created Bitcoin, but that's ridiculous, the mathematics here is not at that kind of level. Bitcoin's success is more about architecture and incentives.
For what it's worth my sense, after reading as much of his stuff as I could find, was that this is possibly a high functioning autistic ("I'm better with code than with words.."), grew up in England most likely (although other countries are possible for sure), and due to outstanding thinking skills most likely studied at Cambridge, most likely Mathematics, probably around 30-40 at the time of creating Bitcoin, maybe worked in the Finance industry in the City (a very normal outcome for such a person after studying at Cambridge), and this would have naturally led to an interest in the issues that Bitcoin is designed to address.
The video was fun, but the suggestion is somewhat ridiculous. Mochizuki has been working on ABC intensively for many years (certainly overlapping with the period when Satoshi was actively developing BTC), and his colleagues will attest to this (although apparently none of them really understand it). You might as well suggest Andrew Wiles developed Google on the side while proving Fermat's Last Theorem.
I also heard someone suggest that Satoshi is Grigoriy Perelman, the Russian who solved the Poincare suggestion. It seems people have the idea that only the best mathematician in the world could have created Bitcoin, but that's ridiculous, the mathematics here is not at that kind of level. Bitcoin's success is more about architecture and incentives.
What is the earliest version of the code, or how to find the earliest version of the code written by "Satoshi"?
Agreed, great presentation, but not really enough evidence to convince me.
You have it the wrong way around based on the timeline
Having a good proper English spellcheck is actually hard, compared to the many american based ones you get for free with most writing software tools these days. Darn you Americans owning the world lol.
So if Satoshi has great British writing style in 2009, why is Shinichi Mochizuki so very very american. it could be argued that a British expert would use a cheap software defaulted to American and allowed all of the British spellings be transformed into American.
But an American writing the white paper AND many, many lines of code and emails over several months to write in British style. now that takes some effort.
remember Satoshi did not just write the white paper, there is code in the github and email correspondence which can show that Satoshi's writing is very much British education based.
although i do not care about Satoshi's true identity, i do like to correct people when they are grabbing at straws.
i will now leave you with a quote from someone else with a hidden identity:
Dark Knight
Having a good proper English spellcheck is actually hard, compared to the many american based ones you get for free with most writing software tools these days. Darn you Americans owning the world lol.
So if Satoshi has great British writing style in 2009, why is Shinichi Mochizuki so very very american. it could be argued that a British expert would use a cheap software defaulted to American and allowed all of the British spellings be transformed into American.
But an American writing the white paper AND many, many lines of code and emails over several months to write in British style. now that takes some effort.
remember Satoshi did not just write the white paper, there is code in the github and email correspondence which can show that Satoshi's writing is very much British education based.
although i do not care about Satoshi's true identity, i do like to correct people when they are grabbing at straws.
i will now leave you with a quote from someone else with a hidden identity:
Quote
It's not who you are underneath, but what you do that defines you.
Dark Knight
How hard is to change all your correspondence to British spelling?
Spellcheck. So hard.
Spellcheck. So hard.
Satoshi is not Shinichi Mochizuki.
Why, you may ask?
Simply because Satoshi wrote his bitcoin white paper in British English, not American English.
Theater = American.
Theatre= British.
Functorially=American.
Functorialy=British.
color=American.
colour=British.
If you are looking for someone with an Asian heritage to be the real identity of Satoshi, you may want to atleast look into a British based English language education of the suspect. 'Princeton' is not British.
End of discussion
Why, you may ask?
Simply because Satoshi wrote his bitcoin white paper in British English, not American English.
Theater = American.
Theatre= British.
Functorially=American.
Functorialy=British.
color=American.
colour=British.
If you are looking for someone with an Asian heritage to be the real identity of Satoshi, you may want to atleast look into a British based English language education of the suspect. 'Princeton' is not British.
End of discussion
Why am I getting a weird vibe about this Satoshi hunt?
Mr. Ted Nelson reminds me of "Hadden" from Contact (1997). A cool and wise old intellectual.
So true! Whether or not Nelson is correct, I absolutely loved his presentation.
Bleh. I highly doubt it. This guy doesn't have a programming background..
I have not looked at what satoshi have programmed, but it's mainly logic and and math. A math genius should not have any problem at learning to making a fair program from a little reading of the net.
And Gavin said that Satoshi wasn't an excellent programmer.
There are billions of people on this planet and many may match the profile expected of Satoshi.
Bleh. I highly doubt it. This guy doesn't have a programming background..
I have not looked at what satoshi have programmed, but it's mainly logic and and math. A math genius should not have any problem at learning to making a fair program from a little reading of the net.
Plausible...
Good case made.
Good case made.
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