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newbie
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August 11, 2022, 06:57:25 AM
This is why traders are suggested to analyse the market on their own and make their own trading decisions. If you let others decide your moves, be ready to fall into a hole that doesn’t have a way out.
legendary
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August 10, 2022, 11:13:24 PM
Most of those seminars do not give us any knowledge, on the contrary, they praise someone and then they introduce that person as someone who has succeeded in business by investing in this project or that project. The last thing that happened after all of those great seminars was that they wanted to introduce us to their project and say that we should invest in their project if we want to be as successful as that guy.
Yes, you are right about that. I totally agree about that because it's true that most investment networks labeled seminars end up offering products for their own advancement. This is the easiest way to get great public interest in the products presented in the seminar because money and consistent income are the most influential weapons for the ordinary investment community or investment savvy people.

For people who are aware of how investing works I don't think they will easily believe the lure as this is not the first time they have come across it. It is good when everyone is educated and knows how it works.
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August 10, 2022, 11:05:30 PM
So far I have never attended a seminar that I might consider a scam that leads to scam. I'd rather read than hear anything in the name of bitcoin for personal and group gain.

There were several occasions when I was invited to attend investment seminars by some friends, but I wasn't interested because in the end the most talked about orientation was other people's success without providing the understanding that the audience really needed. Never fall a second time, that's a good hope from the OP.

Most of those seminars do not give us any knowledge, on the contrary, they praise someone and then they introduce that person as someone who has succeeded in business by investing in this project or that project. The last thing that happened after all of those great seminars was that they wanted to introduce us to their project and say that we should invest in their project if we want to be as successful as that guy.
legendary
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August 10, 2022, 10:52:59 PM
Sounds like the networking niche right? lol
I have remembered back in 2012 (If my memory serves me right) there was a group of people who conducted a free seminar about Bitcoin. Me and my Information Technology (IT) students heard about it, but we're not interested with Bitcoin back in the days so there was like 2 of them who attended. Unfortunately, It turns out that It's not Bitcoin exactly that they are indorsing and teaching people how it works, but they have their own coin that they actually indorsed.
If I can remember the name of the coin was One Coin. I'm not sure if that's what exactly the name of their coin, but it does sound like that lol.
Exactly, was the trend at the time. But so far I have rarely heard of such investment seminars anymore. The strangest thing I can imagine from that network is how they manage to convince people to earn a consistent income. Average ends in failure and deception, but some people still fall into the same mistakes.

In my country even the government has established a means to prevent various kinds of scammed investments which can help people to be more careful with the lure of income. It was formed by the Government under the Financial Services Authority, it is very helpful because there is a real impact from the results of its work.
sr. member
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August 10, 2022, 02:51:51 AM
One of the biggest issues not only with bitcoin but in finance in general is people getting poor information, and not doing the proper research to make sure that they’re learning from someone whom actually knows what they are talking about.

Do you research people!
It seems that it is, most people just "read the title of the book without reading the contents" So they will not know that what they hear is wrong or right. How can we know that the content of the book is interesting when we don't read it?
Likewise with cryptocurrencies, we can't judge just by hearing or seeing, we have to study it completely.
hero member
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August 09, 2022, 06:30:57 PM
So far I have never attended a seminar that I might consider a scam that leads to scam. I'd rather read than hear anything in the name of bitcoin for personal and group gain.

There were several occasions when I was invited to attend investment seminars by some friends, but I wasn't interested because in the end the most talked about orientation was other people's success without providing the understanding that the audience really needed. Never fall a second time, that's a good hope from the OP.

Sounds like the networking niche right? lol
I have remembered back in 2012 (If my memory serves me right) there was a group of people who conducted a free seminar about Bitcoin. Me and my Information Technology (IT) students heard about it, but we're not interested with Bitcoin back in the days so there was like 2 of them who attended. Unfortunately, It turns out that It's not Bitcoin exactly that they are indorsing and teaching people how it works, but they have their own coin that they actually indorsed.
If I can remember the name of the coin was One Coin. I'm not sure if that's what exactly the name of their coin, but it does sound like that lol.
sr. member
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August 09, 2022, 06:20:05 PM
currently there are many seminars that talk about crypto but behind the seminar their initial goal was to find prey for crypto beginners and promise big rewards and expectations but the reality is zonk, it's a shame this sometimes wants to straighten out but they believe more in the speaker
A very common scheme that you could really see here in our country where there are seminars been held which been said to be a crypto seminar related but ending up on introducing some projects which needed up

some funding or support which do really sucks and same goes in other schemes as well but you could eventually able to point out which one is fraud and which one is real and with real experience and make use

some of your common sense then you could eventually able to determine these things.You dont need something if you could really just simply make out some simple research for yourself when
you are trying to learn up things.
sr. member
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August 09, 2022, 06:02:13 PM
That's really nice, that you made a call and gave a clear explanation about P2P. Same as you, many people might be hearing the program and know what he said isn't perfect and they just ignore. You've done a good job correcting the person with the knowledge acquired from Bitcointalk. Everyone wants to do this and such activities will make people learn the truth about the market than the hype.
Most of the people who hype cryptocurrency or Bitcoin does not know the actual value or what they are hyping for. I believe that what the original author of the topic did is the right thing.because it explanation clarified many people from doubt of P2P so many people who is abstract or novice about this will take a direct advantages of knowing what they want to know through theresponse concerning this because everyone do learn through another person thread
legendary
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August 09, 2022, 10:54:02 AM
One of the biggest issues not only with bitcoin but in finance in general is people getting poor information, and not doing the proper research to make sure that they’re learning from someone whom actually knows what they are talking about.

Do you research people!
sr. member
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August 09, 2022, 10:35:38 AM
in part all this has to do with the markets and more specifically with the behavior of bitcoin, but according to what I have seen in articles, some analysts think that we are going back a lot and that now the big holders are accumulating a lot of bitcoin, and this has increased the need for holders to buy more bitcoin, which means that if the price goes down more, those people will take advantage, but seeing how everything is, it is very difficult for it to go down more, I don't think they will continue to lower the price of bitcoin , I think that by the looks of it all may be starting to go up.
That's what the accumulation phase is all about. First you go up, then you start to go down, then you do not go down further but you do not go up neither which is the accumulation phase and we have been there for a while now, ever since the luna news the price didn't bottomed any further that was the bottom.

This means that for a while all the rich people and poor people are all buying and holding. If anything else happens, they will just keep on buying more and more. Hence, I do not think that anything bad could happen to the current situation, it's just a great take off spot for us now. If the price goes up then it is going to be pretty good for sure because we all bought a lot while waiting.
newbie
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August 07, 2022, 11:44:42 PM
This mostly happens when someone does not have appropriate knowledge. It is important to rely on our own study and gut and not follow someone else’s advice.
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August 07, 2022, 09:40:11 PM
As smart as a squirrel jumps, one day we will fall too, as well as ourselves, even though we have long entered the crypto world but sometimes we will fall too, the point is we must not be arrogant and we must not feel arrogant, we must always learn From existing experience, we must always be wary of scammers who always give us sweet promises.
And the best to happen to us is to learn from our experiences and share them with others. And the forum helps members and guests to understand how the market works and so do these scammers.

Why should arrogant? Those people who carry this attitude won't make themselves happy but have a burden in their lives. It is just the fact that not all are willing to change nor wanted to help, some people wanted others to fall and experience the same with them.

Yes, in part all this has to do with the markets and more specifically with the behavior of bitcoin, but according to what I have seen in articles, some analysts think that we are going back a lot and that now the big holders are accumulating a lot of bitcoin, and this has increased the need for holders to buy more bitcoin, which means that if the price goes down more, those people will take advantage, but seeing how everything is, it is very difficult for it to go down more, I don't think they will continue to lower the price of bitcoin , I think that by the looks of it all may be starting to go up.
legendary
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August 05, 2022, 02:06:46 PM
So far I have never attended a seminar that I might consider a scam that leads to scam. I'd rather read than hear anything in the name of bitcoin for personal and group gain.

There were several occasions when I was invited to attend investment seminars by some friends, but I wasn't interested because in the end the most talked about orientation was other people's success without providing the understanding that the audience really needed. Never fall a second time, that's a good hope from the OP.
hero member
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August 05, 2022, 01:26:07 PM
Actually I was among program but I was provoke to change the radio station. 93.1 is radio ph  station which many presenters always host a program, during the presentation I was not expecting to get what they are saying because I gained full knowledge about Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency inclusively so paying listening to those who doesn't know anything bitcoin and it's development gets me weird so I changed station. In numerous cases I have tried to enlighten most of them the more but they feels they knew it and many falls to give listening ears to learn and get full knowledge. Some of it are to extort money from those who have no knowledge about bitcoin and are desperate of learning it via all means that ends up being deceived.

One key note I learnt is that; If information is not properly transferred they end up having false knowledge about what they are being thought. We are in a digitalize and computerized age were if any information is being passed to you we quickly ran to google to dilute whatever we being transferred to (Information).
So I wonders how many people that might have gotten wrong knowledge from such a novice presenter.
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August 04, 2022, 10:54:12 PM
Metaphor of Bitcoin: Radio Frequency 93.1 Bitcoin Seminar

July 23, 2022
Ignorant People are still falling for bitcoin seminars in the rural and some major cities in the world. I was listening to 93.1 Radio Station in my locality. And a programme pop up titled, "Metaphor of Bitcoin". Which the presenter and the sponsor of the programme were try to explain the Metaphor of Bitcoin and I was provoked, they provided a phone number for the interested people to send text. What the sponsor said that made me provoked was, he said, Metaphor of Bitcoin is an Investment Platform (wallet) whereby bitcoiners can used to make money. It is a decentralized system in which nobody can control another person coin (s) even the developer of the software. It also uses per to per (p2p) system. And the presenter was asked to explain the p2p system to the listeners and sponsor said, "it is just like meeting whereby members among themselves give money to the person that is due to collect". Later he put it in this way. It is a contribution of money among people. Although to some extend he was correct but I called the number  which was provided and explained p2p to them in detail.
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Peer to peer means, it is the direct exchange of goods and services (asset) among users of digital currencies without the interference of the national authorities.
I recorded part of the programme, I would have uploaded it but this forum doesn't accept audio. So I used another website to upload the audio. See link to the audio http://sndup.net/gchb

Finally. Then I thought to myself. The Knowledge getting from Bitcointalk is enough for me. They can't deceived anymore. I have learned and known. See    
My First Encounter/Experience With Crypto-Currency (Bitcoin) 2015

Maybe they don't fully understand what they're talking about, maybe the station has a program to promote it, sometimes things like this make people afraid to go deeper into the crypto world, because their understanding doesn't match reality, they should invite resource persons who are competent in their field , understand what they are talking about and know the concept of Bitcoin, Platform and p2p, this is much more interesting to follow
legendary
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August 04, 2022, 09:37:32 PM
#99
It isn't advisable to rely on the opinions and advice of influencers on Youtube simply because they could release false information to deceive their viewers especially if they're advertising or offering a service, project, or product that will benefit them in return. Influencers are just making money regardless of the type of information that they're sharing so we should do our own research instead.
You are not completely right because I think there is some information we can take from their trading knowledge and experience although in the end you will have to do your own research. Not believing 100% is true, but if you don't try to learn from the experiences of others, it's wrong.

You can assume that everything that other people share visually, in writing or otherwise about investing and trading is not good financial advice, but rest assured you can also gain additional knowledge from them especially about new things that you haven't fully heard of and your responsibility is to filter that information properly.

Yes, sometimes we will get knowledge from them that we did not know before, listening to someone's advice is not too bad as long as we know how to filter the information. The final decision should be made after doing your own research.

We all know youtube influencers get paid to do those things but to do so they also need knowledge and skills, you can't do it if you don't have the knowledge so we can still get some good knowledge from their advice.
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August 04, 2022, 08:30:17 PM
#98
Misinformation among the cryptocurrency communities is evident and will be rampant regarding newbies. There are a lot of people who are becoming a victim because of their lack of knowledge and self-research. Some people are lazy when reading facts and ensuring that they read suitable sources. Like here in the forum.

I do hope people would be more interested in the truth and verify that it's true or not. That kind of station should be somewhat penalized or something.
People continue to be misinformed because there are really these kind of presenters who acted as if they know but the fact is, they really lack the knowledge and good research. And if no one will dare to correct their mistakes, innocent people will continue to rely on wrong information. However, such a brave act OP as you stand for what you think is right. Only by then, people will finally understand that bitcoin is never useless and will create good contribution on each of us if we also learn to adopt it too.
These kind of presenters are also lacking of knowledge about Bitcoin, otherwise they have other intention on why they are spreading a misleading information. Thus those people who are listening and also interested about the topic might believe his words not knowing it's not accurate. So yes good thing op did what he can do to correct the presenter and explain.
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August 04, 2022, 04:43:53 PM
#97
It isn't advisable to rely on the opinions and advice of influencers on Youtube simply because they could release false information to deceive their viewers especially if they're advertising or offering a service, project, or product that will benefit them in return. Influencers are just making money regardless of the type of information that they're sharing so we should do our own research instead.
You are not completely right because I think there is some information we can take from their trading knowledge and experience although in the end you will have to do your own research. Not believing 100% is true, but if you don't try to learn from the experiences of others, it's wrong.

You can assume that everything that other people share visually, in writing or otherwise about investing and trading is not good financial advice, but rest assured you can also gain additional knowledge from them especially about new things that you haven't fully heard of and your responsibility is to filter that information properly.
Crypto influencers can sometimes be right or wrong. But the fact that they have gained more knowledge and skills from their different experiences in crypto makes them good influencers in the long run. However, relying in them fully with all our decisions might be risky in the end, that is why aside from their own ideas and opinions, we should also do our own part of research so we can correct if there are mistakes seen from their own shared ideas.
It might work on others but it wont be working for everyone and this is the thing you should have in mind so that you wont really be ending up yourself on being relying into those influencers or any other personality
that you would able to see into this market.It cant really be just that right for you to have those kind of mindset or beliefs. Stick into your own analysis and snip out some parts or ideas from others and try to
make lots of trial and error until you do able to get your own trading style.We do have our own trading styles and decisions that would be made out on the time that we do make trades or investment.
Just dont make yourself that too relying into others analysis since we are just all speculators on this market which means it does have equal chances or odds on hitting the right spot.
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August 04, 2022, 04:12:47 PM
#96
It isn't advisable to rely on the opinions and advice of influencers on Youtube simply because they could release false information to deceive their viewers especially if they're advertising or offering a service, project, or product that will benefit them in return. Influencers are just making money regardless of the type of information that they're sharing so we should do our own research instead.
You are not completely right because I think there is some information we can take from their trading knowledge and experience although in the end you will have to do your own research. Not believing 100% is true, but if you don't try to learn from the experiences of others, it's wrong.

You can assume that everything that other people share visually, in writing or otherwise about investing and trading is not good financial advice, but rest assured you can also gain additional knowledge from them especially about new things that you haven't fully heard of and your responsibility is to filter that information properly.
Crypto influencers can sometimes be right or wrong. But the fact that they have gained more knowledge and skills from their different experiences in crypto makes them good influencers in the long run. However, relying in them fully with all our decisions might be risky in the end, that is why aside from their own ideas and opinions, we should also do our own part of research so we can correct if there are mistakes seen from their own shared ideas.
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August 04, 2022, 03:58:54 PM
#95
This usually is an organized way of scamming the unsuspecting public who have no primary idea or knowledge about the workings of Bitcoin operation. They use a legal means (radio house) to disseminate their scam which probably makes many persons to accept their offers without a second thought of it been from a scammer corner since it's coming from a recognized  media house.
I remember falling for such seminars where I had to attend about  two different ones not until I came across this forum through an anonymous and now for me the difference is obvious about Bitcoin from what those so-called money-seeking-hunters had explained to me in the past.

I just feel sorry for those who still fall for such....
Well, many unsuspecting newbies have fallen for that scheme until they learn a lesson that Bitcoin is a decentralized digital currency and is not a crowdfunding network that needs its owners to attend seminars to build their network. Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies are designed for users to be able to own and spend them without another person's involvement in the transaction so why then are all the seminars still existing?
I use to hear some of such adverts in recent times on my local radio frequency and I know it will end in a scam.
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