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Quote from: scooter on November 24, 2013, 03:00:09 PM

But... There is a different kind of scam which is much worse.
Scammer buys the item. Then opens a case with ebay saying the item is broken or not as described.
You are required to tell the buyer to send it back for a refund.
The buyer mails you back an empty box.
Ebay still forces you to refund the money.

A friend sold a phone system. They said it didn't work. But what got returned was a different phone system broken.
They lost because they didn't have enough evidence to prove a swap was done.

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Quote from: scooter on November 24, 2013, 03:00:09 PM

I recently had a chargeback from a scammer on ebay.

It worked like this.

1: I got notice of the chargeback and the funds in my paypal account were put on hold
2: I uploaded the tracking information to paypal showing that I did indeed ship the item
3: 10 days later the money was returned to me and all was fine.

If that happens.. its just scammers using stolen credit cards and you are covered.

But... There is a different kind of scam which is much worse.
Scammer buys the item. Then opens a case with ebay saying the item is broken or not as described.
You are required to tell the buyer to send it back for a refund.
The buyer mails you back an empty box.
Ebay still forces you to refund the money.

If the item costs more than $200 or $250 a signature is required.
Sign and open with a witness.

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I recently had a chargeback from a scammer on ebay.

It worked like this.

1: I got notice of the chargeback and the funds in my paypal account were put on hold
2: I uploaded the tracking information to paypal showing that I did indeed ship the item
3: 10 days later the money was returned to me and all was fine.

If that happens.. its just scammers using stolen credit cards and you are covered.

But... There is a different kind of scam which is much worse.
Scammer buys the item. Then opens a case with ebay saying the item is broken or not as described.
You are required to tell the buyer to send it back for a refund.
The buyer mails you back an empty box.
Ebay still forces you to refund the money.

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Quote from: ssateneth on November 22, 2013, 01:50:08 PM

You can ship to a possible scammer, but you won't lose any money because ebay and paypal will protect your money since you will ship to a confirmed address. Just make sure your terms of sale are good, i.e. no returns, guaranteed working, DOA protection 12 hours from the point of signature, something like that.

I've had about 3 noteable cases so far where the buyer did a chargeback on his AMEX/Visa ("unauthorized use"). Proof of (insured) shipment was available, proof of signature too, they just gave the money back to the buyer. :-)
Paypal/ebay does not care about it's sellers and the 10%-ish fee on sales is just way too high.

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Quote from: ssateneth on November 22, 2013, 01:50:08 PM

You can either cancel the transaction and eat a negative rating from your buyer.

or

You can ship to a possible scammer, but you won't lose any money because ebay and paypal will protect your money since you will ship to a confirmed address. Just make sure your terms of sale are good, i.e. no returns, guaranteed working, DOA protection 12 hours from the point of signature, something like that.

This. IIRC, if you ship to a confirmed address with proof of condition, it usually works out.

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Quote from: hayseed on November 20, 2013, 02:09:47 PM

Im not sure who the scammers are any more. I think its now ebay/paypal as they don't give a c*#p about sellers!!

Amen to that!

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You can either cancel the transaction and eat a negative rating from your buyer.

or

You can ship to a possible scammer, but you won't lose any money because ebay and paypal will protect your money since you will ship to a confirmed address. Just make sure your terms of sale are good, i.e. no returns, guaranteed working, DOA protection 12 hours from the point of signature, something like that.

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Quote from: romerun on November 21, 2013, 12:20:27 AM

ship it some ppl have a hard time receiving mail

Already made the label, dropping at post office tomorrow.

Hadn't done any selling since about 4+ years ago on ebay and boy has it changed since then.
Its shocking how much they chew out of the sale between list, final fee and paypal fee!!

Thats why I'm looking forward to the spread of btc.

Die!! PayPal Die!!

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ship it some ppl have a hard time receiving mail

hayseed

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Quote from: TheWoodser on November 20, 2013, 07:24:18 PM

I recently sold some RAM on eBay and experienced something similar. The buyer was wanting me to ship to a freight forwarding company in L.A.

My understanding after talking to paypal/ebay is as long as they are verified address/account and your seller protection shows eligible Just ship it. I also did more research and it is becoming a more common practice for people outside of the USA to buy products and get them forwarded to where they are.

Even though the crooks/scammer are using it. Enough regular business is also going through it.

I think paypal likes it because they collect a bigger fee for the currency conversion.

What the hay !!

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Quote from: hayseed on November 20, 2013, 02:09:47 PM

Heads up

If you are selling on ebay and get a ship to this address:

4283 Express Lane
Sarasota FL 34238
United States

Be weary it is used as a drop service by a lot of scammers.

Just got some bought and want shipped there. Despite my listing that 5+ required and 90+ days member.

I was suspicious and called ebay. They want me to "ship" it as they say as long as it was paid by paypal I'm covered.
When I mentioned chargeback if found to be fraud they glossed over it.

Thats when I went goggling that address and the buyer info and am really weary now.
Called back got someone higher up. They are still advising to ship. I stated that I reached out to the
buyer asking for more confirm and that if I don't get anything back I'm refunding then canceling.

Im not sure who the scammers are any more. I think its now ebay/paypal as they don't give a c*#p about sellers!!

After talking to paypal and ebay again. They insist that I should ship to the address as it is a verified address and the buyer has a verified paypal account and that even if it turns out to be fraud I am protected as long as the sale showed eligible (which it did).

I even told the paypal rep that I google sat mapped it and it was just a warehouse.

Ill follow up and let you know the outcome. Of course I won't know for at least 60 days.

I really didn't want to ship it, but they said if I didn't it would hurt my seller stats and cause hold up on monies plus again stated that I am covered. Yep did I make notes with date/time/name etc.

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Quote from: hayseed on November 20, 2013, 02:09:47 PM

Heads up

If you are selling on ebay and get a ship to this address:

4283 Express Lane
Sarasota FL 34238
United States

Be weary it is used as a drop service by a lot of scammers.

I recently sold some RAM on eBay and experienced something similar. The buyer was wanting me to ship to a freight forwarding company in L.A.

hayseed

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Quote from: ezview on November 09, 2013, 01:33:38 PM

Limted offer...

Considering new hardware is down to as little as $3.00 per 1Ghs, I will pay $15.00 per 1 Ghs, which would be 3 block erupters.

So if you're tired of getting no return and burning more electricity, PM me and make an offer.

Thanks

I would love to know where I can get 10gh blades for $30 !!!!!

Your price of $3/ghs * 10ghs = $30.

Ill buy 10 right now. ill even pay triple at $90 per 10 ghs blade !!

Heck that makes the new cube only $90. for it at 30ghs.

Ill pay double for it at $200 for 30ghs

hayseed

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Heads up

If you are selling on ebay and get a ship to this address:

4283 Express Lane
Sarasota FL 34238
United States

Be weary it is used as a drop service by a lot of scammers.

Just got some bought and want shipped there. Despite my listing that 5+ required and 90+ days member.

I was suspicious and called ebay. They want me to "ship" it as they say as long as it was paid by paypal I'm covered.
When I mentioned chargeback if found to be fraud they glossed over it.

Thats when I went goggling that address and the buyer info and am really weary now.
Called back got someone higher up. They are still advising to ship. I stated that I reached out to the
buyer asking for more confirm and that if I don't get anything back I'm refunding then canceling.

Im not sure who the scammers are any more. I think its now ebay/paypal as they don't give a c*#p about sellers!!

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Quote from: hayseed on November 19, 2013, 06:51:07 PM

Amen to the sudden uptick on their ebay value Grin

Im selling off some to pay down the hobby debt before the next "Wife Audit" event.

amen as a seller. Good luck on the "Wife audit" I know how these go....

Quote from: danieldaniel on November 19, 2013, 07:17:26 PM

I sold 4 for $82 on an auction. Started it at $50 or so.

Thats awesome.
A side note, I swear most people do not use the "sort by lowest" price feature. A good thing to sellers but facepalm as a buyer.

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I sold 4 for $82 on an auction. Started it at $50 or so.

hayseed

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Amen to the sudden uptick on their ebay value Grin

Im selling off some to pay down the hobby debt before the next "Wife Audit" event.

mobile

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the sun is shining, but the ice is still slippery

They use to sell on ebay for $15 now they are selling at prices upward to 25-35$. feel free to share a link with someone selling for $10 ebay/amazon and/or .035BTC

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