Topic: Icebreaker - Hashfast Employee? (Read 6160 times)

Lots of developments on the scammer, definitely worthy an update! I'll just quote portions of my caveat-posting from my signature here:

iCEBREAKER hasn't been active since Christmas. Also, he has posted in this thread.

Ice hasn't posted on this thread, has he? Bizarre since he posts heavily on other ASIC mfrs threads.

Agreed. I haven't been following this that closely. I was just amused that people were associating 'testing' with 'shipping'. It's a step, yeah... But you test to find bugs. Sometimes you do.

That was the 7th when the first board rolled off a high speed production line. The 23rd is when they said "batch one" was being tested. A reasonable person would tend to think the entire system is being tested and not just the simple PCB after 2-3 weeks.

*A* board was being tested; not necessarily their production board.  Not going to make any claims about their schedule or whatever, but you usually test something to look for problems.  I guess we'll see what they do.

Except that it was said that batch one was being tested. Batch one meaning the collective amount of the entire order.

The board was being tested long before this.
http://ow.ly/i/3Xrbt

+1.  It's funny how many people forget what testing means...

Maybe they had the boards, then during testing they found that they were unstable.

Hey you remember this? Good times. So batch 1 was being tested, but now you don't even have the pcbs for batch 1?

Ok... and you wonder why some of us don't trust a single word out of your lying mouths. Fucking bunch of idiots, thanks for exposing my personal email address as well.

well, i haven't seen him in any threads i lurk - maybe he's slacking eh?

I think it has to do with the unbelievable amount of effort wasted trolling/harassing any hashfast competitors thread.

If someone actually pays this idiot to troll all day I would be surprised.

i see the word "shill" tossed around these boards a LOT. what if a customer purchases a miner and just "really" wants his company to be legit? it's hard not to defend a company you've given $K's to. does one immediately jump on the conspiracy theory train after making a purchase or is it possible customers did some diligence prior to purchasing? im confused because these shill accusations are just over the top.

I've invited Mr. BREAKER to identify himself.

Sometimes I've wondered— when we've had really extreme over the top "shills", like in this case— if they really weren't double-secret shills pretending to shill just to make their love-object look repulsive. I guess intrigue seldom goes that deep in reality, but its something to consider.

Irritating in any case.

And you have, if only everyone saw your warnings

Fact is I never lied, always told the truth, performed my due diligence including reading terms and conditions and setting up alerts on companies I was following to track changes they made to Ts&Cs when I saw something amiss and was by and large always right. I never bet the farm, and haven't lost my money to foul play, or fraud. None of my predictions were proven false, and my integrity is in tact, on top of which I now get to work in an exciting industry and most people are pleased to meet me. That said for those that hide behind a persona, or shaft people in what is still a relatively small industry find themselves unwelcome. Greed blinds, and apparently few have the foresight to adopt a longer term view, or believe that time forgets and there will be fresh lambs to the slaughter. Not cool, I never understood why no one wanted to build a long term business, for me that just highlights how little belief those individuals really hold in Bitcoin and the cryptocurrency revolution.

I know it's laborious to read the fine print, but when it comes to things like pre-orders, nothing paints a clearer picture of a company than the contracts they chose to bond you by, and the accountability they wish to assume, or avoid...

Sorry ears were burning, back on subject...

I also find his absence interesting.  He gets called out for being Eduardo the CEO of Hashfast and he claims I'm harassing him and disapears.

As a consumer I don't know what has offended me more, that a company would use underhanded aggressive smear tactics in this way, or that they would deliberately lie and misrepresent their timeline/refund policy.

If I had an ownership stake in one of the other mining companies (Active mining, KNC, Cointerra etc.) and this had been done towards my company, I would be pressing charges and seeking restitution.

Where did iCEBREAKER go? Always bet on ice? When you're gone I can't even place my bets anymore.

Accusations of Bitcoinorama or Cypherdoc and others have popped up as threads before, interesting to see how Hashfat_CL responded so quickly and aggressively against iCEBREAKER's thread, no? No relationship at all beyond ice being an early investor of icedrill? We can see what a person is both by what he does and doesn't do- and through this incident I think it is safe to infer that HashFast has been monitoring this subforum and thread closely, and failed to respond to any customer complaints for months while pushing full on for ice on the drop of a hat.

Changed ToS, delayed substrates, a few more days, twitter and forum propaganda (Why propoganda? Because the intent is to mislead, as repeatedly proven by later timeframes), Saturday shipping, we promise! Oh, MMP? There's an afterthought, we'll deal with that later Smiley Now nothing yet. Now the official stance is hey, we never promised shipping in October, suckers! We've always promised in tiny little fine print end of the year! Tell me, do you fucking read Apple's ToS every iTunes update? People out of habit trust companies that seem professional, and in August everything clearly stated shipping in October, but what Hashfast has displayed since then is unprofessionalism and more false marketing. This thread as of now has 166k views. For all guests and new customers, please, please, please do your due diligence before buying any mining hardware. Think logically, and sift through all the bullshit on this freedom of speech forum we have here.

What have you achieved since inception? Four batches of unshipped BabyJets, Four batches of unshipped Sierras, unknown and murky MMP, constant updates on developments but delays in the actual marketed shipping times in such a time crucial industry. What value do you have as a Bitcoin Mining company? Your products are neither the most powerful, the most cost efficient, lowest Gh/W. What are you standing on?

And CL, how.. how can you have quotes such as "Bitcoin enables ordinary people to fight back" when you yourself are perpetuating the opposite? Oppressing customers that have placed their trust in you? Perhaps you are just a cog in the machine, the soldier in a massacre, it's your job and you're just following orders. But look at this situations, evidence, and facts- there is no community liaison between this subforum and Hashfast. Only an one sided voice while the other fumes and clings and claws for any bit of information for hope, for hopes of salvaging the thousands in dollars they placed for a nice Bitcoin Mining Machine.

Always bet on ice? A good rule of thumb might be to do everything opposite

User accounts should never be shared, this is security 101 and a little thing called "Non Repudiation".

The case is still 21.5" tall, which when mounted sideways would be too big to fit in a 19" rack.