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member
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November 21, 2017, 08:32:25 AM
#26
We all want ICO's to guarantee a good return, everyone wants to profit from any project.
It's important to work on the ICO and make it successful.
member
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ICO legal advisor and blockchain enthusiast
November 21, 2017, 05:36:39 AM
#25
A guarantee of returns is a sign of a security. Such sale would have to be then conducted in accordance with securities regulations.
sr. member
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November 21, 2017, 03:10:53 AM
#24
Objective: Smart Process BOT - Robotic Process Automation for Startups & SMEs

Stage of development - 1stage of development is begun

Company existence - 5 years

MVP - Ready

Moat of the Business - Domain knowledge expertise

Scalability - Potential becomes exponential with the launch of BOT

Advantages for ICO Participants -
www.obizcoin.io
Guaranteed returns until BOT is developed. 1% per month
Profit sharing: 50% to the token holders
Buyback and destruction of tokens each month to increase the value of remaining tokens.


Obizcoin Whitepaper :
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_IHGdlig2JqeEI5TDg5X2MyaDJsN0RSTnI0SU9XeC1OaEUw

Obizcoin Business Model:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_IHGdlig2JqRTd2VUFzcHFnMVRDYjc4cEZNclFiNi1taFNv

Promoters background: www.yourretailcoach.in

PRE-ICO launch 11th December 2017.

Register for pre-sale at www.obizcoin.io

For latest updates and in case of any queries, join us on :
t.me/obizcoinnetwork
One thing that I learnt from being here a while is that once an ICO is giving 100% returns -it's best to stay far away from that project.
full member
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CryptoPuzzle.com developer
November 20, 2017, 06:09:46 AM
#23
To be very honest with you, I do not wish to enter or collaborate with any project that claims to give any kind of guaranteed returns. Governments collapse and even banks do. So there is no guaranteed returns that I would ever believe in.

A guaranted return it's clearly a red flag. Even when company buy back some token they sold, there will be no guarantee that it will be the case. If nobody believe in their project, token will be dump as hell.
full member
Activity: 364
Merit: 102
November 20, 2017, 06:00:41 AM
#22
To be very honest with you, I do not wish to enter or collaborate with any project that claims to give any kind of guaranteed returns. Governments collapse and even banks do. So there is no guaranteed returns that I would ever believe in.
full member
Activity: 434
Merit: 100
November 20, 2017, 03:56:20 AM
#21
I wait for return money from Tezos for some weeks yet. This is not a guarantee. By word, this just declaring. There are a lot of ICOs that can tell that they make guaranties. But this is nothing in fact.
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 501
November 19, 2017, 06:25:53 PM
#20
Theres absolutely no possible way you can "guarantee" 100% Return on investement, Unless You/Your organization artificially drive the price to 2x that of ICO price. Why not just market it as a great investment instead of telling people that they are guaranteed returns.
Yup. I share the same opinion.There are so many ponzies these days which guarantee a fixed rate of interest which screams scam to me and almost every person in the crypto world. People still tend to invest in such programs dreaming about becoming rich overnight which is one of the biggest mistakes people tend to make in the crypto world. Marketing is indeed way better than guaranteeing and making promises.

Becoming rich is not an instant scenario, but I'd rather choose to become rich aside from investing with that type of crypto establishements. There are plenty of promising projects right now, but the guatantee to the investments is really unpredictable as of now because the token sale is on going and we still don't what will happen next. All we need to do is check and dig deeper on how their platform really works so that to prevent of being a part of a ponzi projects. If we wanted to be rich, well we really need to be vigilant and hopefully after the project we have we'll be a profitable traders.
newbie
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November 19, 2017, 06:13:35 PM
#19
began the sale now of the best currency for 2018. nagacoin

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newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
November 19, 2017, 03:33:11 PM
#18
Objective: Smart Process BOT - Robotic Process Automation for Startups & SMEs

Stage of development - 1stage of development is begun

Company existence - 5 years

MVP - Ready

Moat of the Business - Domain knowledge expertise

Scalability - Potential becomes exponential with the launch of BOT

Advantages for ICO Participants -
www.obizcoin.io
Guaranteed returns until BOT is developed. 1% per month
Profit sharing: 50% to the token holders
Buyback and destruction of tokens each month to increase the value of remaining tokens.


Obizcoin Whitepaper :
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_IHGdlig2JqeEI5TDg5X2MyaDJsN0RSTnI0SU9XeC1OaEUw

Obizcoin Business Model:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_IHGdlig2JqRTd2VUFzcHFnMVRDYjc4cEZNclFiNi1taFNv

Promoters background: www.yourretailcoach.in

PRE-ICO launch 11th December 2017.

Register for pre-sale at www.obizcoin.io

For latest updates and in case of any queries, join us on :
t.me/obizcoinnetwork
If you are promoting your project on this forum then create an ANN thread in the respective section with nice pictures, schemes, tables and a link to an official website. This way you will attract more attention. And what is missing on your website is info about the team members (their education, experience).
Looking at your whitepaper I can say that the project is at least original, which is not so bad, but I think it lacks the explanation why is a new coin needed to buy the AI analytic service.




Team member information is available on the website. Even the links to their linkedin profiles are available where educartion qualifiation and experience has been mentioned along with other details required.


OBIZCOIN launch has been conducted to develop Smart process BOT.
Token issue is made for the same. Returns are given in the form of profits distribution to the token holders, Minimum guarantee to the token holders and also buyback of tokens. Details of the same are available on website, whitepaper and business model.

You can buy bot services using bitcoin, ethereum or fiat also. If bought through obizcoin, discount shall be offered.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
November 19, 2017, 03:23:52 PM
#17
What did I just read ?

Did you just try to persuade me into believing that you can actually guarantee for 100% that my investment will return Huh

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the returns we are offering to the investors are in the form of profit sharing, minimum guarantee and buyback of tokens.
This sentence makes absolutely no sense. When you're talking to the public try to explain what you mean. You just threw in 3 bulk words and that's it.

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Nobody in this world can predict the price of tokens after listing. They are based on economic factors like demand and supply.
Since you have no control over the funds or obviously the price of the tokens, you can't do anything. Case closed.

Man you guys didn't even take the effort to create a good-looking ANN thread.
I can't see this idea to be getting anywhere any time. We just want normal federal regulation over ICOs and now you want us to turn our trust into another organization that we still can't fully trust.



We have never commented on 100% guarantee returns on token in the first place. Please read the whitepaper and business model carefully to understand the same.
https://obizcoin.io/images/Obizcoin-Whitepaper.pdf
https://obizcoin.io/images/Obizcoin-Business-model.pdf

Returns on tokens are not buzz words. They are returns offered for holding tokens. Business model and whitepaper explains them in detail. We are successfully operating business process consulting model for the last 5 years. Its a proven model.









hero member
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November 19, 2017, 03:19:31 PM
#16
Theres absolutely no possible way you can "guarantee" 100% Return on investement, Unless You/Your organization artificially drive the price to 2x that of ICO price. Why not just market it as a great investment instead of telling people that they are guaranteed returns.
Yup. I share the same opinion.There are so many ponzies these days which guarantee a fixed rate of interest which screams scam to me and almost every person in the crypto world. People still tend to invest in such programs dreaming about becoming rich overnight which is one of the biggest mistakes people tend to make in the crypto world. Marketing is indeed way better than guaranteeing and making promises.
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 537
November 19, 2017, 02:52:01 PM
#15
What did I just read ?

Did you just try to persuade me into believing that you can actually guarantee for 100% that my investment will return Huh

Quote
the returns we are offering to the investors are in the form of profit sharing, minimum guarantee and buyback of tokens.
This sentence makes absolutely no sense. When you're talking to the public try to explain what you mean. You just threw in 3 bulk words and that's it.

Quote
Nobody in this world can predict the price of tokens after listing. They are based on economic factors like demand and supply.
Since you have no control over the funds or obviously the price of the tokens, you can't do anything. Case closed.

Man you guys didn't even take the effort to create a good-looking ANN thread.
I can't see this idea to be getting anywhere any time. We just want normal federal regulation over ICOs and now you want us to turn our trust into another organization that we still can't fully trust.
legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1402
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November 19, 2017, 02:49:11 PM
#14
Objective: Smart Process BOT - Robotic Process Automation for Startups & SMEs

Stage of development - 1stage of development is begun

Company existence - 5 years

MVP - Ready

Moat of the Business - Domain knowledge expertise

Scalability - Potential becomes exponential with the launch of BOT

Advantages for ICO Participants -
www.obizcoin.io
Guaranteed returns until BOT is developed. 1% per month
Profit sharing: 50% to the token holders
Buyback and destruction of tokens each month to increase the value of remaining tokens.


Obizcoin Whitepaper :
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_IHGdlig2JqeEI5TDg5X2MyaDJsN0RSTnI0SU9XeC1OaEUw

Obizcoin Business Model:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_IHGdlig2JqRTd2VUFzcHFnMVRDYjc4cEZNclFiNi1taFNv

Promoters background: www.yourretailcoach.in

PRE-ICO launch 11th December 2017.

Register for pre-sale at www.obizcoin.io

For latest updates and in case of any queries, join us on :
t.me/obizcoinnetwork
If you are promoting your project on this forum then create an ANN thread in the respective section with nice pictures, schemes, tables and a link to an official website. This way you will attract more attention. And what is missing on your website is info about the team members (their education, experience).
Looking at your whitepaper I can say that the project is at least original, which is not so bad, but I think it lacks the explanation why is a new coin needed to buy the AI analytic service.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
November 19, 2017, 02:27:02 PM
#13
Theres absolutely no possible way you can "guarantee" 100% Return on investement, Unless You/Your organization artificially drive the price to 2x that of ICO price. Why not just market it as a great investment instead of telling people that they are guaranteed returns.

Hello pr3m0nition, we appreciate your interest in our project OBIZCOIN.  


Regarding your assertion that there is no guaranteed on doubling your investment, we totally agree with this point.

We are not stating that the price of the token will get double at the time of listing.


We insist you read the whitepaper and business model carefully available on the OBIZCOIN website
https://obizcoin.io/

the returns we are offering to the investors are in the form of profit sharing, minimum guarantee and buyback of tokens.

We have made the business projections in the business model. The returns generated from sale of bot services shall be shared with token holders. These returns will be incremental in nature increasing every year. You can find the projections and returns the business model available on our website
https://obizcoin.io/images/Obizcoin-Business-model.pdf

Nobody in this world can predict the price of tokens after listing. They are based on economic factors like demand and supply.

I hope we have tried to solve your concern.

For latest updates on the project, you can register yourself at https://obizcoin.io/

Likewise, you can drop in an email at [email protected] for any further clarifications.







legendary
Activity: 1330
Merit: 1003
November 19, 2017, 02:21:49 PM
#12
Theres absolutely no possible way you can "guarantee" 100% Return on investement, Unless You/Your organization artificially drive the price to 2x that of ICO price. Why not just market it as a great investment instead of telling people that they are guaranteed returns.

Actually, if you click on the links in my signature you will learn about a company that is offering a guaranteed 6.9x return on investment called Angel token and you can participate in their ICO which begins shortly. Their website is https://angelinvestors.io and you can read and learn more about them there. I think you should consider it because ICOs are how you can make so much money in crypto these days very fast unlike Bitcoin which takes a long time now.
member
Activity: 83
Merit: 10
November 19, 2017, 02:08:03 PM
#11
Theres absolutely no possible way you can "guarantee" 100% Return on investement, Unless You/Your organization artificially drive the price to 2x that of ICO price. Why not just market it as a great investment instead of telling people that they are guaranteed returns.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
November 19, 2017, 02:00:40 PM
#10
There is a possibility and guarantee for high ICO returns. Reason enough why a lot of institutional inverstors are hooked by the cryptocurrency space. They have seen opportunities to conquer success by the use of these digital currencies which is used to fund the development of the startups.

Hello justyourkuya , we appreciate your interest in our project OBIZCOIN. 

We agree with the point you made. There's always a higher probability if invested in a good project at an early stage.

Please drop in your email for tracking the progress and receiving updates.
https://www.obizcoin.io/

You can also write us at [email protected] for any more details

For private sale you can contact https://t.me/accessvarun
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
November 19, 2017, 01:53:51 PM
#9
I like what the coin offers, but I don't understand a lot of things. If you can please present us more details of the project I will really appreciate it. I am somewhat interested

Hello Aroweyen, we appreciate your interest in our project OBIZCOIN.

Businesses have multiple activities in various departments to be conducted on a daily basis in their operations. So they need Standard Operating Procedures to organize their business. This helps to get the team aligned in achieving one goal.

We are business process consultants helping businesses design their SOPs.
http://www.yourretailcoach.in/

OBIZCOIN project is being launched to develop smart process bot to automate business processes for startups an SMEs

66% of businesses fail in the first five years of
business

80% of Startups and SMEs fail due to inefficient
“Business Process Management”

80% problems arise because internal processes
that don’t ‘talk’ to each other,“

Without efficient business processes, businesses
lose the ability to identify critical weaknesses
and plan for predictable growth.

Inefficiencies processes in organization incurs
20 to 30 percent of their revenue each year.
Inefficient business processes have five times
more negative impact on the customer than the
delivery of a poor product.


A powerful BOT literally builds automation by mapping processes and a rich
library of template activities will get the clients moving at an exceptional speed
and ease. BOT is capable of developing processes across the company. BOT Data
Bank shall be updated time and again with the industry insights to improvise
processes at the client’s end.

Our MVP and short introductory video describing processes will be available soon.
Please drop in your email at https://obizcoin.io/ to receive latest updates about the project.


We hope this answers most of your questions.


Regarding business model and and profitability we request you to read our whitepaper and business model thoroughly
https://obizcoin.io/images/Obizcoin-Business-model.pdf

https://obizcoin.io/images/Obizcoin-Whitepaper.pdf

You can also ask queries by emailing us at [email protected]

For private sale you can contact https://t.me/accessvarun

or drop in an email at [email protected]









newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
November 19, 2017, 11:50:54 AM
#8
So, the background of the project developer is in marketing coaching or retail? Looks like an India-based project, which is rare. I can see why this would be a good foundation for a business (as opposed to just pure crypto developers in the dev team).

But then, this would only be okay if Obizcoin were just a pure project with only tokenized model and nothing else. But if this is actually a smart robot process as is expressed, then you actually need good devs and good coders, no?




Hello Slaman29, we appreciate your interest in our project OBIZCOIN.

We are Process Management Consultants, operating across India & Dubai since last 05 years. Our parent company is called “Your Retail Coach”, www.yourretailcoach.in
The Parent Company, Your Retail Coach is self-funded till date.
With the advancement in technology, YRC aimed at taking its already successful business model to a new level of technological advancement by developing Smart Process BOTs with the help of blockchain & AI technology.
YRC is raising funds for developing the BOT through Obizcoin Token Sale .
Regarding strong Blockchain & AI Team, here are a few of our technology partners & team members with their linkedin profiles attached. All of them have worked on AI & Blockchain Technology in their previous projects.

Abhishek Prasad: https://www.linkedin.com/in/abhishekprasad1/
Amit Upadhyay : https://www.linkedin.com/in/amitjupadhyay/
Dmitrii Sunka: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmitrii-sunka/
Umar Shariff: https://www.linkedin.com/in/umarshariffgani/
Arindam Dasgupta : https://www.linkedin.com/in/arindam-dasgupta-04409643/
And we are in the process of finalizing few more experts to further add expertise on our technology front.

These are our key players and there is a strong technical team working under them.
We will be updating the MVP details on our website soon.

Please subscribe to receive latest updates on the same
https://obizcoin.io/

You can also write us at [email protected] in case of further details.

newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
November 19, 2017, 11:39:59 AM
#7
Could you please explain your model & what your project actually wants to achieve, all I can gather from your website & white paper is that BOT coin is going to make me rich using machine learning and blockchain..

You also claim you're 70% of the way to creating your product, please explain what is left to write & how you came to the conclusion you are almost finished

You also offer a  "QUICK ROI - Successful Model with quick ROI" and "MINIMUM GUARANTEE - Minimum Guarantee of 1% every month" please explain what a 'Quick ROI' means and how it will be achieved as well as what the minimum guarantee of 1% per month means



Hello Luke, we appreciate your interest in our project OBIZCOIN.  We shall attempt to answer your concerns point by point.


1.   AIM OF THE PROJECT:
To develop Smart Process BOT for Robotic Process Automation for Startups and SMEs (Small and Medium Scale Companies across the globe.
These Bots shall help companies to organize and scale up.
Background:
The Parent Company, Your Retail Coach (www.yourretailcoach.in), which is a Process Consulting Company since last 05 years, is self-funded till date.
With the advancement in technology, YRC aimed at taking its already successful business model to a new level of technological advancement by developing Smart Process BOTs with the help of blockchain & AI technology.
YRC is raising funds for developing the BOT through Obizcoin Token Sale .

2.   WE HAVE DIVIDED THE PROJECT INTO 03 STAGES AS MENTIONED BELOW:

•   STAGE I (70% IS COMPLETED)
•   Business Intelligence
•   Setting Database
•   Coding logic of BOT
•   Domain knowledge data mapping
•   Input data
•   Output data
•   Mapped Data validation
•   STAGE II
•   BOT framework portal
•   Machine learning studio
•   Knowledge graph
•   Setup language processing
•   Blockchain platform
•   STAGE III
•   API configuration
•   Testing with BETA users
•   Configuration with IOT devices

*As mentioned in the Whitepaper as well as Website, 70% of our Stage I Development is done*

3.   Minimum Guarantee of 1% means, Obizcoin shall provide 1% as a guaranteed return to all the investors until the development of BOTs.
Eg.: Example: Investment Amount : 100 USD
Period of holding OBZ in OBZ Wallet : 1st Dec 2017 to 31st Dec 2017
No. of days: 30 days. Calculation of Profit Sharing: 100 USD * 1% = 1 USD per month



Quick ROI: Returns for token holders are expected to be over 100% within 3 years time frame which is considered to be quick. The returns for token holders are described in detail in the business model available on the website.
https://www.obizcoin.io/images/Obizcoin-Business-model.pdf

Please drop in your email for tracking the progress and receiving updates.
https://www.obizcoin.io/

You can also write us at [email protected] for any more details



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