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Quote from: Whosdaddy on April 23, 2016, 11:08:34 AM

I think it's most common to put captcha in claiming free bits or satoshi. Email verification that only accepts the legit email providers would be nice as sometimes, email verification can be bypassed by using trash mail providers.

we are talking about giving away to a random member every few hours so captcha here is to preventing abusers from cloning account to increase the odd to win. yes legit email providers only can someone limit the ability that they will create tons of account Grin

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Quote from: zodiac3011 on April 23, 2016, 08:38:08 AM

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Quote from: zodiac3011 on April 23, 2016, 02:00:16 AM

well you can try accepting many cryptocurrencies instead of only bitcoin, implementing faucets for people to try Cheesy

lowering the house edge can make a difference too Grin

maybe you can create a random giveaway like after 5-10 minutes a player from a game ID will receive a amount of bitcoin despite small but it should at least want them to earn more Cheesy

Throwing a giveaway that frequent can only be done if your gambling site has tons of players and a bunch of big players AKA whales. Otherwise, you're gambling site is destined to go bankrupt.

the intervals between each giveaway should be random and it must suitable with the fund he has to have for the giveaway. For example, $4 worth bitcoin ever 1-3 hours

You just said 5-10 minutes and now you're saying 1-3 hours? I understand your point that giveaways may have a chance to make the gamblers bet more frequent. But given that 5-10 minutes of giveaway, people will make tons of dummy accounts and stay online in that gambling site and wait for one of their dummy accounts to get a giveaway. This will be a passive income for them.

can they make enough dummy account to win the odds? The solution to solve the problem is quite easy I have to say: captcha(quite ineffective), prohibit VPN, proxy, or you can combine with mail verification to make sure there wont be any dummy accounts.

I think it's most common to put captcha in claiming free bits or satoshi. Email verification that only accepts the legit email providers would be nice as sometimes, email verification can be bypassed by using trash mail providers.

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Quote from: Kotone on April 22, 2016, 03:11:51 PM

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I'm afraid at this point to beat PD or be more popular dice site on the market the only option is to have bigger bankroll, don't think originality would help if you can't attract big bettors or so called whales

Yeah, you must have a bigger capital to promote your dice site to the market first
Than thinking your design in my own opinion

Yup, a gambling site does not depend on the latest innovations/the latest games, but it depends on the manejemen Site and they do have a large bankroll. If that's all you can do is sure you'll have a popular site. But if you want to beat the popularity of PD then you must have a unique thing that is not owned by the PD.

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Quote from: pereira4 on April 23, 2016, 10:33:29 AM

If you make a site that's Bticoin related and it's anti privacy (and by anti privacy I mean anti proxies, anti vpn, anti tor... you name it) it's always going to get bad rep amongst its users because Bitcoin is about privacy, so it's always recommended that when you are making the design of a site, it will be compatible with proxies.

As I know that Yobit is using those to stop users from spamming it and many are still using. In my opinion, people will have no problem with it at all. Proxies and VPN mostly is for spamming and cloning. I know Yobit is just one example but it's still need considering here

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Quote from: zodiac3011 on April 23, 2016, 10:17:51 AM

Quote from: Fatanut on April 23, 2016, 10:02:32 AM

Quote from: zodiac3011 on April 23, 2016, 08:38:08 AM

can they make enough dummy account to win the odds? The solution to solve the problem is quite easy I have to say: captcha(quite ineffective), prohibit VPN, proxy, or you can combine with mail verification to make sure there wont be any dummy accounts.

Mail verification might work but I think phone verification is much better because apparently, one person can hold tons of gmail accounts.

Quote from: tiffyroman on April 23, 2016, 08:05:16 AM

But if the giveaway is considerably low to the point that making dummy accounts wouldn't be worth the effort, that shouldn't be a problem for the owners. However given that if the giveaway is considerably low, that wouldn't attract many gamblers at all.

If it's considerably low then there's no point in hiring a programmer for an automated giveaway because it wouldn't lighten the gamblers' mood at all. Like, if a gambler just lost all his money. And then he got chosen as a 'lucky' winner of the giveaway that has a prize that is considerably low, that might just piss the gambler. Thus, making him leave the site completely. Just an IMO though. Giveaways should be helpful in getting back what a gambler has lost.

I cant agree more with you my friend Grin

anti proxy and VPN might be a cheaper solution to this as phone verification requires you to send a lot of international message which can cost you a fortune.

If you make a site that's Bticoin related and it's anti privacy (and by anti privacy I mean anti proxies, anti vpn, anti tor... you name it) it's always going to get bad rep amongst its users because Bitcoin is about privacy, so it's always recommended that when you are making the design of a site, it will be compatible with proxies.

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Quote from: Fatanut on April 23, 2016, 10:02:32 AM

Quote from: zodiac3011 on April 23, 2016, 08:38:08 AM

can they make enough dummy account to win the odds? The solution to solve the problem is quite easy I have to say: captcha(quite ineffective), prohibit VPN, proxy, or you can combine with mail verification to make sure there wont be any dummy accounts.

Mail verification might work but I think phone verification is much better because apparently, one person can hold tons of gmail accounts.

Quote from: tiffyroman on April 23, 2016, 08:05:16 AM

But if the giveaway is considerably low to the point that making dummy accounts wouldn't be worth the effort, that shouldn't be a problem for the owners. However given that if the giveaway is considerably low, that wouldn't attract many gamblers at all.

If it's considerably low then there's no point in hiring a programmer for an automated giveaway because it wouldn't lighten the gamblers' mood at all. Like, if a gambler just lost all his money. And then he got chosen as a 'lucky' winner of the giveaway that has a prize that is considerably low, that might just piss the gambler. Thus, making him leave the site completely. Just an IMO though. Giveaways should be helpful in getting back what a gambler has lost.

I cant agree more with you my friend Grin

anti proxy and VPN might be a cheaper solution to this as phone verification requires you to send a lot of international message which can cost you a fortune.

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Quote from: Capitascism on April 23, 2016, 10:09:18 AM

Why we don't have opportunity for speeding time of dice play, for example if you want to play 100 small bets why do i need whole minute for this job? Also we would be very happy if have chance to more influence on flow of automatic bets..For example if you losing, to automatic stop after default number is reached..Not when you lost everything..

There's this feature 'Stop betting when max bet reached' in BustaBit and in Primedice, that helps stop the bot from betting tons of money especially if you're doing martingale.

But anyway, if you can do some basic programming, you can easily do that 'after losing certain amount of money' in BustaBit. Not to advertise or smth, just my experience. I don't play on other betting sites that much. But I think there are dice sites that enables users to write their own script as well. Some dice sites might already have that in their auto-bet options. Cheesy

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Why we don't have opportunity for speeding time of dice play, for example if you want to play 100 small bets why do i need whole minute for this job? Also we would be very happy if have chance to more influence on flow of automatic bets..For example if you losing, to automatic stop after default number is reached..Not when you lost everything..

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Quote from: zodiac3011 on April 23, 2016, 08:38:08 AM

can they make enough dummy account to win the odds? The solution to solve the problem is quite easy I have to say: captcha(quite ineffective), prohibit VPN, proxy, or you can combine with mail verification to make sure there wont be any dummy accounts.

Mail verification might work but I think phone verification is much better because apparently, one person can hold tons of gmail accounts.

Quote from: tiffyroman on April 23, 2016, 08:05:16 AM

But if the giveaway is considerably low to the point that making dummy accounts wouldn't be worth the effort, that shouldn't be a problem for the owners. However given that if the giveaway is considerably low, that wouldn't attract many gamblers at all.

If it's considerably low then there's no point in hiring a programmer for an automated giveaway because it wouldn't lighten the gamblers' mood at all. Like, if a gambler just lost all his money. And then he got chosen as a 'lucky' winner of the giveaway that has a prize that is considerably low, that might just piss the gambler. Thus, making him leave the site completely. Just an IMO though. Giveaways should be helpful in getting back what a gambler has lost.

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Quote from: jambola2 on April 23, 2016, 08:17:29 AM

Quote from: tiffyroman on April 23, 2016, 08:05:16 AM

But if the giveaway is considerably low to the point that making dummy accounts wouldn't be worth the effort, that shouldn't be a problem for the owners. However given that if the giveaway is considerably low, that wouldn't attract many gamblers at all.

Most giveaways are low to the point that making dummy accounts isn't worth the effort. For example, primedice gives away 0.000002, which is a bit under a tenth of a cent.
As far as I know, giveaways offer people a way to test out the site before putting in any money of their own. Maybe to see if they find using the site fun before they deposit any actual BTC.

Yeah a giveaway is good PR for an extra campaign. I would advice to add several campaigns at the same time and assign several persons to handle those campaign.
Else their time get flooded and users will lose faith.

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Quote from: Fatanut on April 23, 2016, 05:43:56 AM

Quote from: zodiac3011 on April 23, 2016, 04:52:47 AM

Quote from: Fatanut on April 23, 2016, 04:28:14 AM

Quote from: zodiac3011 on April 23, 2016, 02:00:16 AM

well you can try accepting many cryptocurrencies instead of only bitcoin, implementing faucets for people to try Cheesy

lowering the house edge can make a difference too Grin

maybe you can create a random giveaway like after 5-10 minutes a player from a game ID will receive a amount of bitcoin despite small but it should at least want them to earn more Cheesy

Throwing a giveaway that frequent can only be done if your gambling site has tons of players and a bunch of big players AKA whales. Otherwise, you're gambling site is destined to go bankrupt.

the intervals between each giveaway should be random and it must suitable with the fund he has to have for the giveaway. For example, $4 worth bitcoin ever 1-3 hours

You just said 5-10 minutes and now you're saying 1-3 hours? I understand your point that giveaways may have a chance to make the gamblers bet more frequent. But given that 5-10 minutes of giveaway, people will make tons of dummy accounts and stay online in that gambling site and wait for one of their dummy accounts to get a giveaway. This will be a passive income for them.

can they make enough dummy account to win the odds? The solution to solve the problem is quite easy I have to say: captcha(quite ineffective), prohibit VPN, proxy, or you can combine with mail verification to make sure there wont be any dummy accounts.

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Quote from: tiffyroman on April 23, 2016, 08:05:16 AM

But if the giveaway is considerably low to the point that making dummy accounts wouldn't be worth the effort, that shouldn't be a problem for the owners. However given that if the giveaway is considerably low, that wouldn't attract many gamblers at all.

Most giveaways are low to the point that making dummy accounts isn't worth the effort. For example, primedice gives away 0.000002, which is a bit under a tenth of a cent.
As far as I know, giveaways offer people a way to test out the site before putting in any money of their own. Maybe to see if they find using the site fun before they deposit any actual BTC.

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The biggest problem with creating a new dice idea is that you need to somehow be trustworthy enough and have enough of a bankroll to attract whales.
With a 1% house edge, most sites will struggle to stay afloat. The huge spenders will generally go to established places (JD/PD)

For you to be able to make any new dice game, you have to be willing to run on almost no profits for some time as most people putting in money won't even come close to the amount of money you lose by giving away things to try to get new users.

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Quote from: Fatanut on April 23, 2016, 05:43:56 AM

Quote from: zodiac3011 on April 23, 2016, 04:52:47 AM

Quote from: Fatanut on April 23, 2016, 04:28:14 AM

Quote from: zodiac3011 on April 23, 2016, 02:00:16 AM

well you can try accepting many cryptocurrencies instead of only bitcoin, implementing faucets for people to try Cheesy

lowering the house edge can make a difference too Grin

maybe you can create a random giveaway like after 5-10 minutes a player from a game ID will receive a amount of bitcoin despite small but it should at least want them to earn more Cheesy

Throwing a giveaway that frequent can only be done if your gambling site has tons of players and a bunch of big players AKA whales. Otherwise, you're gambling site is destined to go bankrupt.

the intervals between each giveaway should be random and it must suitable with the fund he has to have for the giveaway. For example, $4 worth bitcoin ever 1-3 hours

You just said 5-10 minutes and now you're saying 1-3 hours? I understand your point that giveaways may have a chance to make the gamblers bet more frequent. But given that 5-10 minutes of giveaway, people will make tons of dummy accounts and stay online in that gambling site and wait for one of their dummy accounts to get a giveaway. This will be a passive income for them.

But if the giveaway is considerably low to the point that making dummy accounts wouldn't be worth the effort, that shouldn't be a problem for the owners. However given that if the giveaway is considerably low, that wouldn't attract many gamblers at all.

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Quote from: zodiac3011 on April 23, 2016, 04:52:47 AM

Quote from: Fatanut on April 23, 2016, 04:28:14 AM

Quote from: zodiac3011 on April 23, 2016, 02:00:16 AM

well you can try accepting many cryptocurrencies instead of only bitcoin, implementing faucets for people to try Cheesy

lowering the house edge can make a difference too Grin

maybe you can create a random giveaway like after 5-10 minutes a player from a game ID will receive a amount of bitcoin despite small but it should at least want them to earn more Cheesy

Throwing a giveaway that frequent can only be done if your gambling site has tons of players and a bunch of big players AKA whales. Otherwise, you're gambling site is destined to go bankrupt.

the intervals between each giveaway should be random and it must suitable with the fund he has to have for the giveaway. For example, $4 worth bitcoin ever 1-3 hours

You just said 5-10 minutes and now you're saying 1-3 hours? I understand your point that giveaways may have a chance to make the gamblers bet more frequent. But given that 5-10 minutes of giveaway, people will make tons of dummy accounts and stay online in that gambling site and wait for one of their dummy accounts to get a giveaway. This will be a passive income for them.

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Quote from: shadobitz on April 23, 2016, 02:05:24 AM

If you are want to get start with dice game than it must be unique and made from scratch, graphics and user interface is also very important it must simple and easy to use, low house edge and some interesting promotion will bring some good result toward this new business.

Why everyone always the graphics and houseedge? I dont think that it will affect much although it is a simple one for graphic and low housedge? They will set it to the 1% lowest that is the standard one as I know and why do I say that it wont affect much because house edge only apply on long run which mean long run you will end up losing too so it will not affect that much

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Quote from: Fatanut on April 23, 2016, 04:28:14 AM

Quote from: zodiac3011 on April 23, 2016, 02:00:16 AM

well you can try accepting many cryptocurrencies instead of only bitcoin, implementing faucets for people to try Cheesy

lowering the house edge can make a difference too Grin

maybe you can create a random giveaway like after 5-10 minutes a player from a game ID will receive a amount of bitcoin despite small but it should at least want them to earn more Cheesy

Throwing a giveaway that frequent can only be done if your gambling site has tons of players and a bunch of big players AKA whales. Otherwise, you're gambling site is destined to go bankrupt.

the intervals between each giveaway should be random and it must suitable with the fund he has to have for the giveaway. For example, $4 worth bitcoin ever 1-3 hours

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Quote from: zodiac3011 on April 23, 2016, 02:00:16 AM

well you can try accepting many cryptocurrencies instead of only bitcoin, implementing faucets for people to try Cheesy

lowering the house edge can make a difference too Grin

maybe you can create a random giveaway like after 5-10 minutes a player from a game ID will receive a amount of bitcoin despite small but it should at least want them to earn more Cheesy

Throwing a giveaway that frequent can only be done if your gambling site has tons of players and a bunch of big players AKA whales. Otherwise, you're gambling site is destined to go bankrupt.

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Yes I agree with every post here so far. There are way way too many dice games. Most casinos have other alternative gambling games to not make people bored.

All dice games are provavbly fair anyways so it won't make much difference. Avoid dice websites for now and try something new. Like binary options

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I thought dice game had perfect is not necessary to add something maybe you just change the design, layout. And more important if you build dice game site with transparency fair bet.

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