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Topic: [IDEA] Nextgen Bitcoin wallet (Read 1379 times)

newbie
Activity: 15
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July 09, 2017, 10:59:09 AM
#29
Sure, it's PrivatBank.

Well, we do not have any deadlines yet as it's just an idea now. So we collect info at this stage Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 251
physics, mathematics and engineering
July 08, 2017, 02:08:16 AM
#28
You're not reading the thread, I told already that I showed the current exchange service as a CV, just to tell that I'm not a newbie in the biz Smiley

A wallet will not be affiliated with the website.

Btw, our exchange has a legal ground, we have a company registered plus we are integrated with the biggest bank in Ukraine as a store and we use their merchant solution. So we cannot run with a money Smiley

This might or might not be true (sorry), so I would recommend you to translate your website at least to english. Even if the wallet won´t be affiliated in any way it will help you getting users for your wallet, if you already have some reputation in the crypto world with running an exchange.

Maby you could name "the biggest bank in ukaraine" which you are partnered with, best case an official of them mentions you in public.


When do you plan to release the first version ?  Cheesy
newbie
Activity: 15
Merit: 0
July 07, 2017, 02:52:55 PM
#27
You're not reading the thread, I told already that I showed the current exchange service as a CV, just to tell that I'm not a newbie in the biz Smiley

A wallet will not be affiliated with the website.

Btw, our exchange has a legal ground, we have a company registered plus we are integrated with the biggest bank in Ukraine as a store and we use their merchant solution. So we cannot run with a money Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1862
Merit: 1004
July 07, 2017, 08:43:12 AM
#26
It is hard to give you any idea when your site can be viewed only in Ukrainian. I couldn't check your ToS or About Us page due to that.
I am afraid that fewer formalities for users = no legal grounds for your exchange and you could potentially snatch people's money, run off and say that you were hacked.


sr. member
Activity: 434
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July 07, 2017, 04:35:02 AM
#25
Agree.

Btw, what do you think about XAPO wallet? We like the way it's made, what are your thoughts about it?

I don´t use any online wallets, so I can´t tell.

The only thing I can tell is that they have a nice website and you should consider updating the design of your website, so maby you could gather some ideas from theirs
newbie
Activity: 15
Merit: 0
July 06, 2017, 01:08:14 PM
#24
Agree.

Btw, what do you think about XAPO wallet? We like the way it's made, what are your thoughts about it?
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 251
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July 06, 2017, 09:45:27 AM
#23
The cons of open source are, that also blackhat´s can read the code.

That's why I'm not a big fan of an open source approach Sad

But blackhat´s will always find a way and the pro of open source is friendly pentesters and devs who enjoy using your wallet, will help you fix bugs and flaws for free  Wink

Furthermore there are some users who won´t use closed source projects  Wink
newbie
Activity: 15
Merit: 0
July 06, 2017, 06:19:36 AM
#22
The cons of open source are, that also blackhat´s can read the code.

That's why I'm not a big fan of an open source approach Sad
sr. member
Activity: 434
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July 06, 2017, 05:04:56 AM
#21
We like plugins system also, developers will have the last word Smiley

I'm only not sure about the open source project. What cons are you seeing in the open-source model? Why it's a dealbreaker for you?

as far as I know, there aren't a lot of opensource wallets. And especially web platforms.

I will only use open source wallets, because I trust nobody.
And I only use wallets where I am the only one who possesses the priv keys, because same reason.

I don´t know how many wallets are open source, bitcoin core is. I use bitcoin core and no web wallet.

The cons of open source are, that also blackhat´s can read the code.
newbie
Activity: 15
Merit: 0
July 06, 2017, 03:28:33 AM
#20
You feel more securely when you send utility bills and id scans to a website? Smiley
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
July 05, 2017, 08:55:47 PM
#19
I think that is a nice site. unless my questions are about that you said "not requiere any verification, checks and sign us".
If you are so experience in exchange services how will you built asecure wallet app to us?  it's not enough it will be easy to use  it's need to be secure to use it.  Huh Huh
newbie
Activity: 15
Merit: 0
July 05, 2017, 10:58:41 AM
#18
We like plugins system also, developers will have the last word Smiley

I'm only not sure about the open source project. What cons are you seeing in the open-source model? Why it's a dealbreaker for you?

as far as I know, there aren't a lot of opensource wallets. And especially web platforms.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 251
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July 05, 2017, 10:28:02 AM
#17
Lol, caught it about Android and iOS Smiley

Regarding the webversion and phone - isn't it simpler to add some security features for the phone version, for example, touch id verification for outgoing transactions? We think basically to start with an app and then move to other versions/platforms.

Of course you can, but f.e. I will never use a wallet which is
  • not open source
  • where I am not in posession of the priv keys

Starting with a mobile version is not a bad idea, but the next platform should be for a PC OS.

If you want to go with the plugin system, I think is would be quite nice if you have a biometric security plugin, which can f.e. use the touch-id feature of your mobile phone.

Regarding security, you always have to choose between convinience and security.
I think a layer system would be quite handy here like
  • tx up to 25$, 4 digit pin/fingerprint
  • tx up to 250$, 8 digit pin/fingerprint
  • tx up to 1000$ 4 digit pin + fingerprint or masterkey
  • etc...

This could be configurable by the user, and of course you could make this a plugin.

I really like the plugin system because:
1. Makes the application complexity to a minimum and you only have what you need
2. If someone findes an exploit in f.e. plugin nr. 5, only users with this plugin are affected
3. Don´t know how you handle this, but there is the possibility to let users code plugins -> users are happy about the possibility and you get another "free" feature for your wallet
newbie
Activity: 15
Merit: 0
July 05, 2017, 09:55:15 AM
#16
Lol, caught it about Android and iOS Smiley

Regarding the webversion and phone - isn't it simpler to add some security features for the phone version, for example, touch id verification for outgoing transactions? We think basically to start with an app and then move to other versions/platforms.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 251
physics, mathematics and engineering
July 05, 2017, 09:06:49 AM
#15
Thanks! Definitely like this! Will discuss with guys.

We want to start with an app to use a wallet on the go.

And one more thing, guys, if we do an ICO with whitepapers, roadmap means as it should be done. Would you take part in it? Just checking what possible users think.

In my opinion you should bring your wallet out for at least one mobile and one non mobile platform. I would suggest Android and Windows or Linux.

There should be an option to share some adresses between the PC and the mobile, but there should be an option for not shatring it.
F.e. all normal addresses are available on PC and mobile, but the adress "Savings" is only available on PC (priv key, you could monitor it on mobile) for obvious reasons.

Why Android, not iOS?

You mean web version is the 'main' version and you can grant some addresses to mobile versions but you cannot spend your main 'Savings' address with your phone, right? That's for safety purposes?

Android over IOS, because of personal prefernce, but not only that, I think android is more dev friendly and generally more popular among geeky people (who use BTC). Also I suggested you start with it, in the progress of development you should of course expand to IOS too.

There should be no "main" version. Every platform and version should be equal, to sync between the devices I would suggest backing up to a cloud, not your cloud, because you would have a lot priv keys on one centralized server, but every user has his own backup on his f.e. google drive, of course encrypted (You may have a look at Boxcryptor).

If a user considers his PC at home as the safest place, he could have one address called "savings" there to prevent that he carries around (mobile phone) a lot of money. Althrought I have to say choosing "savings" as an example here was a bad idea, because for saving I definitely recommend a paper wallet. And yes for safety.

A web version has it´s advantages, but you (your company/organisation or wahtever) should not be in the possesion of the private keys, I don´t know how to solve this. Conclusion: Don´t do a web wallet  Cheesy
newbie
Activity: 15
Merit: 0
July 05, 2017, 08:18:25 AM
#14
Thanks! Definitely like this! Will discuss with guys.

We want to start with an app to use a wallet on the go.

And one more thing, guys, if we do an ICO with whitepapers, roadmap means as it should be done. Would you take part in it? Just checking what possible users think.

In my opinion you should bring your wallet out for at least one mobile and one non mobile platform. I would suggest Android and Windows or Linux.

There should be an option to share some adresses between the PC and the mobile, but there should be an option for not shatring it.
F.e. all normal addresses are available on PC and mobile, but the adress "Savings" is only available on PC (priv key, you could monitor it on mobile) for obvious reasons.

Why Android, not iOS?

You mean web version is the 'main' version and you can grant some addresses to mobile versions but you cannot spend your main 'Savings' address with your phone, right? That's for safety purposes?
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 251
physics, mathematics and engineering
July 05, 2017, 08:04:36 AM
#13
Thanks! Definitely like this! Will discuss with guys.

We want to start with an app to use a wallet on the go.

And one more thing, guys, if we do an ICO with whitepapers, roadmap means as it should be done. Would you take part in it? Just checking what possible users think.

In my opinion you should bring your wallet out for at least one mobile and one non mobile platform. I would suggest Android and Windows or Linux.

There should be an option to share some adresses between the PC and the mobile, but there should be an option for not shatring it.
F.e. all normal addresses are available on PC and mobile, but the adress "Savings" is only available on PC (priv key, you could monitor it on mobile) for obvious reasons.
newbie
Activity: 15
Merit: 0
July 05, 2017, 07:49:26 AM
#12
Thanks! Definitely like this! Will discuss with guys.

We want to start with an app to use a wallet on the go.

And one more thing, guys, if we do an ICO with whitepapers, roadmap means as it should be done. Would you take part in it? Just checking what possible users think.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 251
physics, mathematics and engineering
July 05, 2017, 07:32:30 AM
#11
First and most important it has to be open source.

Furthermore I think it would be awesome if you have a plugin system, so everybody gets what he needs out of the wallet.
The basic wallet should be like bitcoin core (the functionality, without commands, only gui) and it should be user friendly.
BUT then the ability to get some plugins would be really nice because, for people which use btc only as payment and don´t want complicated stuff, the basic verion should fit, but for geeks there could be plugins.

Possible plugins:
  • Blockexplorer
  • Altcoins
  • Vanity address generator
  • Extra encryption
  • Autobackup to encrypted cloud
  • HD wallet words (like those from electrum)
  • integrated exchange (no need for a website, very convinient)
  • integrated coinmap, where can I spend my coins ?
  • Multisigwallet and multisending (send from one address to 10 different adresses, differentamounts)

Not a plugin but support for at least Windows, Linux, OSX, Android, IOS

and I am sure there are many more things  Cheesy
newbie
Activity: 15
Merit: 0
July 05, 2017, 07:24:16 AM
#10
Hey guys, thank you for your reviews but please don't look at that website Smiley I showed it just to prove that I'm not a newbie in a cryptobusiness.

Our wallet will be a completely different website with a different name etc. But it will be also easy-to-use.

So looking forward to your features requests.
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