Topic: Identifi.org - Address book with ratings (Read 27930 times)

No doubt that Sirius is a legend. But, identifi.org should have had a 301 redirect to iris.to. Instead, it is showing some weird Casino blog on landing page! I wish, Sirius logs in for a while at BitcoinTalk and clears the doubt.

I confirm that iris.to is the right domain name now.

Me, sirius and 3 others are actively working and developing it as we speak. ( My username there is merlin-web )

May I add that I feel blessed, very lucky and honored to be on this team, since sirius has worked with satoshi himself in the first few years of bitcoin.

I don't know if you still check BitcoinTalk. Identifi.org seems to have launched as Iris.to. I would just like to know if it is compliant to BlueSky or any other open standard?

Update
https://twitter.com/marttimalmi/status/1107625240115458048

Hi. I'm a developer.
I would like to help.

https://www.facebook.com/antoine.brule.8

Thanks for the link, although I don't see anything that addresses my previous post.

My impression from talking to Tim and reading Sirius' whitepaper from a few years ago is that nobody associated with identifi has put forth a vision to tackle the kind of problem in my previous post. In other words, how identifi could provide the foundation for a fully formed pseudonymous reputation system (PRS). Although I would be happy to be proven wrong!

This to me is the most interesting problem in the crypto space. I have ideas on potential strategies and am working on demonstrating those ideas on my website OpenBazaar.OnTheBlockchain.com which I hope will provide a useful reputation system for OpenBazaar. It is not yet in beta although I hope that's not too far away. Essentially what I am building now is a platform that will calculate average ratings of listings using ratings generated on my site as well as ratings generated on OpenBazaar itself, and will also calculate trust scores of users based on ratings generated on my site. All averages are weighted averages, where the weight of the rating depends on the trust score of the user doing the rating. Unvetted users are given a default trust score which is adjustable by the user and can be set to zero if desired.

I haven't done this yet, but my roadmap includes allowing users to sign json-formatted ratings using a self sovereign identity (like a keybase ID perhaps), and then storing the rating + signature on the ipfs. I haven't learned enough yet about identifi to know whether I could use the identifi library to assist me in this task. Although by a quick perusal, it looks like identifi has functions that will store data in ipfs, so perhaps I can use it.

You can follow here the next things that Sirius is going to add/change
https://trello.com/b/8qUutkmP/identifi

Suppose Alice trusts Bob (in a generic sense), Bob trusts Charlie, and Charlie vouches for Dave as being an excellent food critic. Alice wants to eat at Restaurant X which is in fact a terrible restaurant, but was rated 5 out of 5 stars by 3 unvetted user accounts (all three of which are actually the restaurant owner, unbeknownst to anyone). It was rated 1 out of 5 by Dave. Yelp averages these out for a composite score of 4 out of 5 stars. Obviously this is a misleading average score! How do we solve this problem using web of trust?

I would like to see a solution whereby Restaurant X's average is a weighted average, where Dave's 1-star rating is given a lot more weight than the 5-star ratings by the unvetted users, so that Alice sees that Restaurant X's composite score is (for example) 1.2 out of 5 instead of 4 out of 5. If she wants, Alice can do a visual inspection of her web of trust and trace the connection between her and Dave, but this would be very time intensive and it should not be necessary for her to do this for every single rater of every single restaurant under consideration.

Is it envisioned that identifi will enable a solution like this? If it's not, then we need to develop such a vision.

Addendum: I would like to see a solution that would do all of the above, and in addition would be able to hide some of the connections. For example: suppose Bob wants to keep his connection to Charlie private. There should still be a way for Alice to know that her web of trust tells her that Dave is an excellent food critic and Restaurant X is a bad one, WITHOUT revealing the full connection between her and Dave. I believe that this is very much doable (perhaps using zero knowledge proofs, or maybe other cryptographic tools) but that the first step should be to tackle the more simple scenario where all connections and ratings are public. Then and only then can we turn our attention to the privacy-preserving algorithms.

Suppose I want to go to a restaurant. I look at the reviews on Yelp and I want to attend only to the reviewers who are deemed trustworthy by my web of trust. A reputation system can help me with that. I fail to see how an insurance system, no matter the implementation, can realistically provide a superset of this functionality.

The idea is interesting and could be very useful, but here a lot of work remains to be done about the security of personal data and the reliability of ratings. How are you going to achieve reliability, honesty of the reviews? I think you need a sociologist and a specialist in user experience.
And about the site. Search doesn't work, and fonts are very pixelated (you need anti-aliasing).

Without blockchain, what happens if somebody attempts the pendant of a double spend? E.g. different ratings...

http://unbit.nl/2014/09/16/martti-malmi-on-bitcoin-and-identifi/

An interview and some information about Identifi

identifi is one of the critical missing components, it is required and must exist - sirius is a skilled, hard working, and respected.

I would encourage any able developer with any free time to get familiar with the project, and if they subsequently have any motivation then contribute whatever time they can to this project, whether developing, testing, or simply discussing issues.

I for one will do what I can.

http://identi.fi isn't asking password anymore!

Please come to test this new products and help to fix things!
https://github.com/identifi/identifi-rails/issues
https://github.com/identifi/identifi

Nah. Skill, motivation and a skype account is sufficient.

Is relocation a criteria to join your team ?

Looking for paid developers, check out http://identifi.org/

Just something I got stuck with, easy (?) 0.5 BTC for someone who's familiar with bitcoin-qt code: https://github.com/identifi/identifi/issues/3

Now we just need to get that one fixed, plus some network code, and we have something that works.

The current data storage and transfer model might not be the optimal, but this is more of a proof-of-concept implementation.

Very interesting project, looking to implement something like this in a P2P lending project I am considering doing. Keeping watch

Hello Sirius,

I'm from Kenya. I've been following keenly on digital currency trends. Much has been said of crypto currencies and Africa and I've been brainstorming ideas on how to best leverage crypto concepts such as the blockchain to solving some of the immediate problems in Kenya (some can be generalized to much of Sub Saharan Africa). Anyway, some of my thoughts led me here. Identity. I think its possible to use the blockchain (or a public ledger) to store multiple identities of individuals and have them hold on to the private key to restore their identities on multiple services/sign ups in case of loss. I'll explain

My friend carries around 14 cards in his wallet: multiple debit cards, loyalty cards, National ID card, Social Security card. . .you get the picture. Here in Kenya, the national identification card/issuing system is separate from tax ID, Social Security ID and hospital insurance iD. There's no centralized database system to lock in all identities into 1 card. Losing any of these cards requires a tedious process of restoring it. Takes days/weeks/months depending on card. Much of the national system isn't computerized to streamline process [read zero-early adoption]

To my point. Imagine a 'transaction' on a public ledger that establishes an individual and all his/her identities on whatever service [ALL in one]. Any additional identities are added to an address through 'new transactions'. The info will be hashed and the private key secured by the individual. Losing any of the cards would just require the owner to restore his identity on a new card via the private key and a new transaction to verify restoration.

I'm curious on whether such a system is in development based on the blockchain concept. Are you aware of any? I'd like to get your take on the feasibility of this. I'm not looking to develop, but rather, to have it as a possible application of cryptos to Africa for a digital currency awareness campaign.