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Quote from: noorman0 on July 17, 2023, 07:58:26 PM

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Quote from: noorman0 on July 16, 2023, 07:16:04 PM

[OKX has no mixer service, OKX allows an account to generate multiple deposit addresses. If you find that the funds for each address they provide are only sent to the OKX hot wallet, it is confirmed to be generated from the same OKX account belonging to the one scammer, there is no need for further investigation.

Please excuse me, but my English is not perfect Cheesy

. Does it mean that the address I was sending money to is the real address owned by the scammer?

Most likely yes, back to my previous question, did you see that all the output transactions from those different addresses were only forwarded to OKX hot wallet?

I think not, I don't know how to determine which receiver is OKX hot wallet. Or maybe I understood you wrong. I compared these two USDT addresses:
TFZHB2H7MuXXNruXvbvVKTSweaj2NxD6LP and
TM1zzNDZD2DPASbKcgdVoTYhfmYgtfwx9R

Anyway, I wrote to OKX that one of the addresses is used by the scammer.

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Quote from: b3b3ch on July 17, 2023, 03:24:16 AM

Quote from: noorman0 on July 16, 2023, 07:16:04 PM

[OKX has no mixer service, OKX allows an account to generate multiple deposit addresses. If you find that the funds for each address they provide are only sent to the OKX hot wallet, it is confirmed to be generated from the same OKX account belonging to the one scammer, there is no need for further investigation.

Please excuse me, but my English is not perfect Cheesy

. Does it mean that the address I was sending money to is the real address owned by the scammer?

Most likely yes, back to my previous question, did you see that all the output transactions from those different addresses were only forwarded to OKX hot wallet?

If you can confirm that, then try contacting OKX supports and hope they are more cooperative and take action soon.

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Quote from: PX-Z on July 17, 2023, 05:58:12 PM

[1] https://www.scamwatcher.com/scam/view/648482

The Scamwatcher entry is mine.

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Quote from: b3b3ch on July 17, 2023, 04:40:10 PM

Is there any way of finding the exchange of this address TFZHB2H7MuXXNruXvbvVKTSweaj2NxD6LP Huh

After searching this address leads to many scam reports against idmining few months ago on scamwatcher^[1], reddit^[2], etc. There are also few comments who have the same experience with larger amount than yours, unfortunately.

[1] https://www.scamwatcher.com/scam/view/648482
[2] https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoScamBlacklist/comments/12jfnkv/idminingcom_a_big_scam_warning_to_all

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Is there any way of finding the exchange of this address TFZHB2H7MuXXNruXvbvVKTSweaj2NxD6LP Huh

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Quote from: holydarkness on July 17, 2023, 12:53:17 PM

If you still want to pursue this from their end, I'd suggest you tell them to deduct it from your current balance, that you're more than happy to get paid with Earning-After-Taxes [EAT], see what they'll responded.

Haha

I wrote this on the support chat Cheesy

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Quote from: b3b3ch on July 17, 2023, 09:08:40 AM

I asked Idmining why I still couldn't withdraw money. Finally they responded:

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According to the latest government regulations, you must pay the tax before you can make a withdrawal. The system shows that there is $133812 in your account, and you need to deposit $13381.2 as the tax fee. Once the payment is successful, you can immediately withdraw $133812.

It is a crazy world where this site is still active and scammers are stealing money from new people.

If you still want to pursue this from their end, I'd suggest you tell them to deduct it from your current balance, that you're more than happy to get paid with Earning-After-Taxes [EAT], see what they'll responded.

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Quote from: holydarkness on July 17, 2023, 05:14:35 AM

Given that the address is proven to be OKX's, you can probably send an appeal to them to freeze the account.

I sent an appeal two days ago. I wonder what they respond.

Fair warning, they might will refuse to do so if they deemed your case is not strong enough.

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Quote from: holydarkness on July 17, 2023, 05:14:35 AM

Given that the address is proven to be OKX's, you can probably send an appeal to them to freeze the account.

I sent an appeal two days ago. I wonder what they respond.

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I asked Idmining why I still couldn't withdraw money. Finally they responded:

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According to the latest government regulations, you must pay the tax before you can make a withdrawal. The system shows that there is $133812 in your account, and you need to deposit $13381.2 as the tax fee. Once the payment is successful, you can immediately withdraw $133812.

It is a crazy world where this site is still active and scammers are stealing money from new people.

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Quote from: b3b3ch on July 17, 2023, 03:24:16 AM

Quote from: noorman0 on July 16, 2023, 07:16:04 PM

[OKX has no mixer service, OKX allows an account to generate multiple deposit addresses. If you find that the funds for each address they provide are only sent to the OKX hot wallet, it is confirmed to be generated from the same OKX account belonging to the one scammer, there is no need for further investigation.

Please excuse me, but my English is not perfect Cheesy

. Does it mean that the address I was sending money to is the real address owned by the scammer?

OKX [or OKEX] is an exchange, not a mixer. The wallet in reference, Tm1z...wx9r is their hotwallet.

The post you referred to was experimenting on the "mixer" theory in a sense that someone deposited funds to the hot wallet and "mix" it through internal transfer prior to being sent to the destination address, thus [in a strict sense of what a mixer do] obscuring the fund's origin because when someone check the inbound address from the recipient side it'll show the amount is coming from a hot wallet, or if they check from the sender's side, it'll show the fund was transferred to a hot wallet. Nonetheless, OKX will still keep a record of whose address sent what amount to their hot wallet, and this is what Potato Chips proposes to you.

Given that the address is proven to be OKX's, you can probably send an appeal to them to freeze the account. Though [also what Potato Chips proposed] the ID used for verification on that account won't necessarily be the true ID of the scammers as there are a lot of way to fake credentials.

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Quote from: noorman0 on July 16, 2023, 07:16:04 PM

[OKX has no mixer service, OKX allows an account to generate multiple deposit addresses. If you find that the funds for each address they provide are only sent to the OKX hot wallet, it is confirmed to be generated from the same OKX account belonging to the one scammer, there is no need for further investigation.

Please excuse me, but my English is not perfect Cheesy

. Does it mean that the address I was sending money to is the real address owned by the scammer?

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Quote from: Potato Chips on July 16, 2023, 03:27:19 PM

They probably want you to reach out to them asking what's wrong and from there, they could demand another set of deposit e.g. tax or personal information for you to be able to withdraw without hiccups. Proceed with extreme caution.

Thank you. Every withdrawal attempt, even with a smaller amount is ending with an error. They are not responding to my emails and the support chat is not available anymore. Anyway, I won't give them anything, I know they scammed me.

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Quote from: b3b3ch on July 16, 2023, 09:48:28 AM

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I found a post on this forum describing how the OKX mixer works. It seems it will be very hard to track the real owner. Cry

OKX has no mixer service, OKX allows an account to generate multiple deposit addresses. If you find that the funds for each address they provide are only sent to the OKX hot wallet, it is confirmed to be generated from the same OKX account belonging to the one scammer, there is no need for further investigation.

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Quote from: Potato Chips on July 16, 2023, 03:27:19 PM

Quote from: b3b3ch on July 16, 2023, 09:48:28 AM

Thank you. I checked Tronscan and many other things to track the money flow. I used mostly USDT and TRC20 to deposit money to Idmining. Everything is totally prepared like a masquerade. The Idmining.com website is behind Cloudflare making it impossible to find the real hosting IP address. Similarly, the address TM1zzNDZD2DPASbKcgdVoTYhfmYgtfwx9R is an OKX company address, but it is not a real scammer's address. I found a post on this forum describing how the OKX mixer works. It seems it will be very hard to track the real owner. Cry

Let's try to dial back.

I had assumed this was a deposit address provided to you on idmining, is it not?

Yes, based on edited OP.

Quote from: b3b3ch on July 16, 2023, 09:48:28 AM

They unblocked withdrawals on my account, but now there is a different fooling action - transfers are ending as invalid ones.

https://imgtr.ee/images/2023/07/16/d2b9914c1589495fe5908bbc6c876b34.jpeg

Did you try to withdraw smaller amount just like before? I guess its worth to try just like before based on this record.

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Quote from: b3b3ch on July 16, 2023, 09:48:28 AM

Thank you. I checked Tronscan and many other things to track the money flow. I used mostly USDT and TRC20 to deposit money to Idmining. Everything is totally prepared like a masquerade. The Idmining.com website is behind Cloudflare making it impossible to find the real hosting IP address. Similarly, the address TM1zzNDZD2DPASbKcgdVoTYhfmYgtfwx9R is an OKX company address, but it is not a real scammer's address. I found a post on this forum describing how the OKX mixer works. It seems it will be very hard to track the real owner. Cry

Let's try to dial back.

I had assumed this was a deposit address provided to you on idmining, is it not?

Quote from: b3b3ch on July 16, 2023, 09:48:28 AM

They unblocked withdrawals on my account, but now there is a different fooling action - transfers are ending as invalid ones.

https://imgtr.ee/images/2023/07/16/d2b9914c1589495fe5908bbc6c876b34.jpeg

They probably want you to reach out to them asking what's wrong and from there, they could demand another set of deposit e.g. tax or personal information for you to be able to withdraw without hiccups. Proceed with extreme caution.

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Quote from: Potato Chips on July 14, 2023, 07:52:37 PM

One of their USDT address is also tagged as Okex which is previously OKX, see: https://tronscan.org/#/address/TM1zzNDZD2DPASbKcgdVoTYhfmYgtfwx9R

Thank you. I checked Tronscan and many other things to track the money flow. I used mostly USDT and TRC20 to deposit money to Idmining. Everything is totally prepared like a masquerade. The Idmining.com website is behind Cloudflare making it impossible to find the real hosting IP address. Similarly, the address TM1zzNDZD2DPASbKcgdVoTYhfmYgtfwx9R is an OKX company address, but it is not a real scammer's address. I found a post on this forum describing how the OKX mixer works. It seems it will be very hard to track the real owner. Cry

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I have been able to (eventually) recreate similar circumstances for outbound USDT TRC 20 transactions which appear as though funds are (double sent / two step) firstly from a wallet on the exchange to one of the exchange hot wallets and then from another hot wallet to the recipient.

In effect the exchange has it's own in built mixer.

Recovering funds from a borrower who absconds with borrowed funds would be even more hard to track for a lender - especially if no collateral has been provided.

While I haven't done inbound (i.e. deposits) to users on the exchange I'm guessing the is a similar two step process (probably three - deposit, hot mixer then the recipient's wallet address)

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They unblocked withdrawals on my account, but now there is a different fooling action - transfers are ending as invalid ones.

https://imgtr.ee/images/2023/07/16/d2b9914c1589495fe5908bbc6c876b34.jpeg

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This is really a sad story. And it's even more worrying that crypto users sneak large transactions to scam websites when they see tempting offers. This crypto user has deposited such a large amount of funds on such a website, because they allowed this user to withdraw the previously deposited funds! And this is exactly how these websites operate to gain trust and then scam them. These stories make me wonder how many traps scammers have created for newbies. Because the stories of these incidents are being seen in various media these days.

Once scammers used to run HYIP websites to scam crypto users, and now scammers are creating such websites and scamming them with tempting offers. Newbies should spend more time learning without thinking of such easy earning ways. And by this they can stay safe from scammers.

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Quote from: coin-investor on July 16, 2023, 04:25:23 AM

This discussion is already in the search engine I hope people before putting their hard-earned money on Idmining will do their research using the keywords IDMINING SCAM and they will eventually land here and see this discussion and save their hard-earned money, it's ok to look for passive income but its only takes a minute or two to research.

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This discussion is already in the search engine I hope people before putting their hard-earned money on Idmining will do their research using the keywords IDMINING SCAM and they will eventually land here and see this discussion and save their hard-earned money, it's ok to look for passive income but its only takes a minute or two to research.

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I am sorry to hear this story and with your losses OP. It's been a long time since cloud mining have been like a real thing. It's like 99.9% of them are likely a scam these days and if there are companies left that are doing and offering real cloud mining, their contracts are mostly full at all times. It is enticing to have these contracts because you think that they're for real as a passive income but then, no wonder that they're still existing because there are beginners that will always fall for these schemes. And please, don't ever put such amounts and it's best to never trust them quickly if there's one out there interested and keeping an eye with these cloud mining companies.

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