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Quote from: Sri rahayu on November 23, 2019, 10:35:46 AM

Quote from: albrots on November 23, 2019, 09:53:25 AM

ICO is only switched to IEO. even many scammers are able to list on the exchange very easily by only paying for the Exchange they choose. of course, exchange is not concerned with project credibility. IEO forces investors to easily invest, new investors will certainly be interested because after the sale of the coin is completed, it will be listed on the exchange. This can also be called professional fraud. But not all exchanges do dirty things like that. I believe there are still many good IEOs that can succeed, but in-depth research is also needed.

Okay, can you give an example of how to research an IEO project for beginners?
I think they were only tempted by big profits in a short amount of time after the sale of tokens is complete, and therein lies foolishness. In my opinion, now rarely people pay attention to the function of what they buy, they only think of buying and selling when they have made a profit.
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The best way to research this is by looking at various news about the IEO and observing their team, and even in the whitepaper also stated about the objectives of their project. For more convenience, check the section
Scam Accusations in bitcointalk threads. There will be listed several projects that have been indicated by scams.
Novice investors at this time are tempted by the discounts that are given and only think of the benefits to be gained.

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Quote from: Lauren Smith on November 29, 2019, 05:20:35 PM

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Sorry, I can't agree with you. I will not call IEO is a scam, yes they take a good percent of token but that's a fee, not to scam. I don't want to talk about shit exchange's IEO, but you can't tell reputed exchange's IEO also scam! Many People buy when the token gets listed on exchanges, the price goes down and it comes to up too! This is normal, even BTC, eth price does this same! IEO is a good opportunity to recover the bear market's loss!

You right. Good exchanges will last and coins help there will have a good chance of being worth more then they were at IEO sale. So far for me it has been better and the coins i bought or have earned on bounty have been listed and worth something. Sometimes the project does badly but then at least i got something selling my bounty earnings.

but IEO for recovering losses from the bear market, I don't think so. Such a situation is caused by market conditions that are not yet as expected, thus impacting the ongoing project. investor confidence is reduced and many IEO are not in line with expectations

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I don't know why people are like these, they complain when things go wrong but in the first place it is their fault to get involved in a scam. If you are a newbie or a clueless experienced investor about something then you should not jump into it because it is a very risky move and you should fix yourself by getting education to avoid wasting money and time in a scam project.

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Sorry, I can't agree with you. I will not call IEO is a scam, yes they take a good percent of token but that's a fee, not to scam. I don't want to talk about shit exchange's IEO, but you can't tell reputed exchange's IEO also scam! Many People buy when the token gets listed on exchanges, the price goes down and it comes to up too! This is normal, even BTC, eth price does this same! IEO is a good opportunity to recover the bear market's loss!

You right. Good exchanges will last and coins help there will have a good chance of being worth more then they were at IEO sale. So far for me it has been better and the coins i bought or have earned on bounty have been listed and worth something. Sometimes the project does badly but then at least i got something selling my bounty earnings.

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Sorry, I can't agree with you. I will not call IEO is a scam, yes they take a good percent of token but that's a fee, not to scam. I don't want to talk about shit exchange's IEO, but you can't tell reputed exchange's IEO also scam! Many People buy when the token gets listed on exchanges, the price goes down and it comes to up too! This is normal, even BTC, eth price does this same! IEO is a good opportunity to recover the bear market's loss!

I think his assumptions are based on the initial price movement and especially in the first hour of listing, fluctuations look the same as the Pump and dump pattern and then the price drops quickly. He did not realize that it was normal to test market liquidity, and the actual price would be seen a few hours later, the IEO on the top exchange had a long-term volume endurance, and sought to benefit all parties including the organizer. If a trader is just trapped in hype and then buys at a high price, it is because of his lack of understanding in reading the initial pattern, and then starting to analogize the system with short assumptions.

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Everything is base on negotiation, project owners want a platform to sell their tokens since the old ico method is out of fashion, and exchanges on the other hand will be paid for the service they will render, both parties are in agreement so i don't see how this is a scam, and investors are not compelled to invest, it is a thing of choice, besides, ieo is still less risky than ico.

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Quote from: barnes13 on November 25, 2019, 10:40:39 AM

Well, this makes sense. They can easily do this with the money they get from selling tokens on the exchange, then they work with the exchange to do the pump scenario at the beginning, and they will dump it massively after investors think of holding the token for a long time. The method is fairly sneaky in the investment business and clearly this is a very planned fraud scenario.

in other words, the market exchange that provides a place for IEO works with the project team to deceive investors and if there is an opportunity, they do a volume manipulation to make it look promising (pump and then dumped). Wow, that makes perfect sense. (just realized and shocked)
So far I have only been suspicious of the IEO project, but now that I thinking back, it turn out there is a big possibility that the market exchange get involved too. what a great business, everything is a fraud. fck!

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I think in this IEO game only the exchange will benefit. Initially they pumped the first IEO projects to attract investors. They then make very difficult rules to hold large amounts of their platform tokens. Eventually they gained profits from the platform token price increase, and the huge listing fees earned from the project.

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Quote from: Spider A4 on November 25, 2019, 10:57:30 AM

Quote from: fuguebtc on November 22, 2019, 03:07:50 PM

Quote from: BlacksmithCorporation on November 22, 2019, 01:39:30 PM

All crowdfunding models have their own disadvantages and risks. In fact, when you invest in an ICO and an IEO, you are participating in a game, the winner will win the money of the loser. it's not a game anyone can win, so if you lose you can only blame yourself.

Not every ico was scam and not every ico ended up landing on the moon. Likewise, not every IEO will land on moon. We have to take care of our hard earned money ourselves.

Almost 90% ICO's was scam in the previous year and also in this year a lot of scam ICO's i have seen. IEO's is the replacement of ICO's and it's depend in the exchanges so there are no reason to every IEO will success. Big exchanges all of the IEO will success most of the time. Small exchanges projects is very difficult to success.

ICO projects started to have a huge amount of scams in the year of 2018, that is why a lot of investors and bounty hunters have stopped investing in projects because they didn't get any good profit. But since IEO projects came, there are only few investors and bounty hunters who participates in these projects because a lot of people still don't trust new projects that they assume that it will also not be profitable and it will also be a scam.

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Quote from: Mealea on November 22, 2019, 01:11:21 PM

A lot has been said about IEO. Many seeing IEO as a way out in cryptocurreny, hmmmm..... is that it? don't be fooled. Many of the so-called big exchange have enriched themselves through IEO. Why do you think some projects from nowhere conducted their IEO on these so-called big exchange, it will shock you to know that a reasonable amount of these tokens are going to the exchange and the exchange is ready to dump on you the moment the token is listed or after some pump. They encourage you to hodl but they will not hodl. It is all about pump and dump. You may want to argue because you have benefited one out of many times. Have you asked yourself, how many were able to buy at IEO, they want you to come and buy on the exchange after making it look like a sold out, why sold so little at IEO when you have buck of it in store? Professional scam.....Believe me, there is more to IEO on big exchange than you can imagine. Be wise.

The true IEO going on Binance and a few other exchanges. Medium and small exchanges manipulate about raised funds and use bot trading/fake volume when they list token after IEO. I saw that many times.

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Quote from: fuguebtc on November 22, 2019, 03:07:50 PM

Quote from: BlacksmithCorporation on November 22, 2019, 01:39:30 PM

All crowdfunding models have their own disadvantages and risks. In fact, when you invest in an ICO and an IEO, you are participating in a game, the winner will win the money of the loser. it's not a game anyone can win, so if you lose you can only blame yourself.

Not every ico was scam and not every ico ended up landing on the moon. Likewise, not every IEO will land on moon. We have to take care of our hard earned money ourselves.

Almost 90% ICO's was scam in the previous year and also in this year a lot of scam ICO's i have seen. IEO's is the replacement of ICO's and it's depend in the exchanges so there are no reason to every IEO will success. Big exchanges all of the IEO will success most of the time. Small exchanges projects is very difficult to success.

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Well, this makes sense. They can easily do this with the money they get from selling tokens on the exchange, then they work with the exchange to do the pump scenario at the beginning, and they will dump it massively after investors think of holding the token for a long time. The method is fairly sneaky in the investment business and clearly this is a very planned fraud scenario.

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It is nothing more than paid listing, thats why only Binance, Huobi and all other solid exchanges are doing IEOs. A coin will be directly listed on this exchange, which gives a huge advantage for IEO participants.

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Quote from: Chukwunonso on November 25, 2019, 03:16:48 AM

Quote from: Mealea on November 22, 2019, 01:11:21 PM

A lot has been said about IEO. Many seeing IEO as a way out in cryptocurreny, hmmmm..... is that it? don't be fooled. Many of the so-called big exchange have enriched themselves through IEO. Why do you think some projects from nowhere conducted their IEO on these so-called big exchange, it will shock you to know that a reasonable amount of these tokens are going to the exchange and the exchange is ready to dump on you the moment the token is listed or after some pump. They encourage you to hodl but they will not hodl. It is all about pump and dump. You may want to argue because you have benefited one out of many times. Have you asked yourself, how many were able to buy at IEO, they want you to come and buy on the exchange after making it look like a sold out, why sold so little at IEO when you have buck of it in store? Professional scam.....Believe me, there is more to IEO on big exchange than you can imagine. Be wise.

Decentralized Exchange are out to make profit and that explains why several measures are devices to rip off the investing public. The projects are not left out in their ploy as several projects have been made to pay exorbitantly to host their tokensale only to be deceived with figures when actually investors were not purchasing the tokens. I personally won't advise anyone to invest on IEO when you can get it much more cheaper after the IEO sale.

It doesn't always happen that way.If we are talking about holding an IEO on a major exchange as a binance or kucoin then almost always the price after the IEO is much higher.

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Quote from: Mealea on November 22, 2019, 01:11:21 PM

A lot has been said about IEO. Many seeing IEO as a way out in cryptocurreny, hmmmm..... is that it? don't be fooled. Many of the so-called big exchange have enriched themselves through IEO. Why do you think some projects from nowhere conducted their IEO on these so-called big exchange, it will shock you to know that a reasonable amount of these tokens are going to the exchange and the exchange is ready to dump on you the moment the token is listed or after some pump. They encourage you to hodl but they will not hodl. It is all about pump and dump. You may want to argue because you have benefited one out of many times. Have you asked yourself, how many were able to buy at IEO, they want you to come and buy on the exchange after making it look like a sold out, why sold so little at IEO when you have buck of it in store? Professional scam.....Believe me, there is more to IEO on big exchange than you can imagine. Be wise.

IEO was simply the next giant hype for a short time where everyone thought that now after the ICO hype it would go straight on like this.
unfortunately the IEOs are mostly useless because in the end the project is still decisive and not the platform where it is sold. for me the IEOs are
on the same track as the ICO and neither better nor worse. if the plan or the product is bad the name doesn't change anything about the process Wink

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Quote from: Mealea on November 22, 2019, 01:11:21 PM

A lot has been said about IEO. Many seeing IEO as a way out in cryptocurreny, hmmmm..... is that it? don't be fooled. Many of the so-called big exchange have enriched themselves through IEO. Why do you think some projects from nowhere conducted their IEO on these so-called big exchange, it will shock you to know that a reasonable amount of these tokens are going to the exchange and the exchange is ready to dump on you the moment the token is listed or after some pump. They encourage you to hodl but they will not hodl. It is all about pump and dump. You may want to argue because you have benefited one out of many times. Have you asked yourself, how many were able to buy at IEO, they want you to come and buy on the exchange after making it look like a sold out, why sold so little at IEO when you have buck of it in store? Professional scam.....Believe me, there is more to IEO on big exchange than you can imagine. Be wise.

do you have any proof to this accusations that this big exchanges dumps this tokens? Because to me I see it as just your point of view on the ieo without enough evidence to back it up

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Quote from: Mealea on November 22, 2019, 01:11:21 PM

A lot has been said about IEO. Many seeing IEO as a way out in cryptocurreny, hmmmm..... is that it? don't be fooled. Many of the so-called big exchange have enriched themselves through IEO. Why do you think some projects from nowhere conducted their IEO on these so-called big exchange, it will shock you to know that a reasonable amount of these tokens are going to the exchange and the exchange is ready to dump on you the moment the token is listed or after some pump. They encourage you to hodl but they will not hodl. It is all about pump and dump. You may want to argue because you have benefited one out of many times. Have you asked yourself, how many were able to buy at IEO, they want you to come and buy on the exchange after making it look like a sold out, why sold so little at IEO when you have buck of it in store? Professional scam.....Believe me, there is more to IEO on big exchange than you can imagine. Be wise.

Decentralized Exchange are out to make profit and that explains why several measures are devices to rip off the investing public. The projects are not left out in their ploy as several projects have been made to pay exorbitantly to host their tokensale only to be deceived with figures when actually investors were not purchasing the tokens. I personally won't advise anyone to invest on IEO when you can get it much more cheaper after the IEO sale.

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Quote from: watergold on November 25, 2019, 01:22:31 AM

Quote from: danggoron on November 24, 2019, 07:45:49 PM

Quote from: cryptonewbie on November 23, 2019, 05:30:54 PM

The investors as well are looking to dump after a few x of profit. But the IEO is still preferable to the ICO I believe. There are some IEOs that are doing very well several months after listing. But I agree with you partly in the concept being watered down now because there are certain exchanges who fake IEO sales just to fool investors into buying and then the projects suddenly go silent without even listing. The exchange must have connived with the project owners to scam investors here

The best way is to choose a trusted exchange like Binance. I do not know, even though there is manipulation or consolidation behind it, the important thing is we can participate in getting profit, so that's okay. Never choose shitexchange, it's high risk and a lot of manipulation.

Binance has now become a lot of choices when IEO is launched at Binance, the sale will quickly run out, meaning that there are still those who believe in IEO and will generate large profits when it is traded, investors now have a lot of confidence in Binance what the exchange does there is good for the user.

Binance is the choice of many investors because it is associated with a good reputation. IEO held by Binance is always successful and profitable for investors when the initial listing and this is different from other exchangers where many token prices fall when the initial listing and this can reduce investor confidence in IEO held by other exchangers

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Quote from: danggoron on November 24, 2019, 07:45:49 PM

Quote from: cryptonewbie on November 23, 2019, 05:30:54 PM

The investors as well are looking to dump after a few x of profit. But the IEO is still preferable to the ICO I believe. There are some IEOs that are doing very well several months after listing. But I agree with you partly in the concept being watered down now because there are certain exchanges who fake IEO sales just to fool investors into buying and then the projects suddenly go silent without even listing. The exchange must have connived with the project owners to scam investors here

The best way is to choose a trusted exchange like Binance. I do not know, even though there is manipulation or consolidation behind it, the important thing is we can participate in getting profit, so that's okay. Never choose shitexchange, it's high risk and a lot of manipulation.

Binance has now become a lot of choices when IEO is launched at Binance, the sale will quickly run out, meaning that there are still those who believe in IEO and will generate large profits when it is traded, investors now have a lot of confidence in Binance what the exchange does there is good for the user.

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Quote from: Mealea on November 22, 2019, 01:11:21 PM

A lot has been said about IEO. Many seeing IEO as a way out in cryptocurreny, hmmmm..... is that it? don't be fooled. Many of the so-called big exchange have enriched themselves through IEO. Why do you think some projects from nowhere conducted their IEO on these so-called big exchange, it will shock you to know that a reasonable amount of these tokens are going to the exchange and the exchange is ready to dump on you the moment the token is listed or after some pump. They encourage you to hodl but they will not hodl. It is all about pump and dump. You may want to argue because you have benefited one out of many times. Have you asked yourself, how many were able to buy at IEO, they want you to come and buy on the exchange after making it look like a sold out, why sold so little at IEO when you have buck of it in store? Professional scam.....Believe me, there is more to IEO on big exchange than you can imagine. Be wise.

Investors are not noob and they know what they are doing. Do you think, investors will keep on investing in IEO's if they are not profiting to it?
That is how the it works, if the project owners and big exchanges will benefit from from IEO's then investors will also benefit.

The losers are those investors who didn't think wisely, from the start we know that this kind of investment has a risk but if you know how to play with it then you can lessen the risk or even gain a big profit from being part of successful IEO's.

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