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Quote from: shoreno on October 26, 2019, 05:37:08 AM

tokens can also exist on different platform only on eth but for example on eos or on waves . these coins have also separate value and dont depend on eth . overall , the projects feature or characteristic are the ones that will matter the most because people go for the good one's .

Yes.. tokens can exist on other platforms as well... but how many of them are there outside the ERC-20 platform? From what I could see, more than 95% of the tokens are using ERC-20. Using other platforms comes with a lot of complexities and inconveniences. The development is not yet completed for many of these platforms and every now and then you come across bugs and issues. The only advantage that I could think about while using the other platforms is that some of them have lower transaction fee when compared to ERC-20.

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Quote from: zeze18 on October 26, 2019, 05:30:45 AM

I think there is no realation between erc-20 tokens with ETH Price.

hmm of course there is because erc20 is under the etherium platform so whatever the price of eth it has also an impact on the price of erc20 coins . think of it as eth as thier central value or conversion , just like btc with other cryptos .

Quote from: zeze18 on October 26, 2019, 05:30:45 AM

I mean, the tokens exist because ETH exist, but there are a different demand with the token and the coins.
So, i think there is no relation between IEO success with ETH price

tokens can also exist on different platform only on eth but for example on eos or on waves . these coins have also separate value and dont depend on eth . overall , the projects feature or characteristic are the ones that will matter the most because people go for the good one's .

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I think there is no realation between erc-20 tokens with ETH Price.
I mean, the tokens exist because ETH exist, but there are a different demand with the token and the coins.
So, i think there is no relation between IEO success with ETH price

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Yes, I agree that IEO is gaining popularity. This is because there is less fraud in IEO than in ICO. But there are ICOs where there is no fraud now. Now people are participating not only in IEO, but also in ICO. All this causes a demand for ETH

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In fact IEO does not make the impact ETH can rise. IEO even though it is managed by exchangers like Binance makes transactions safer and not as risky as ICO.
ETH will usually rise if the BTC flies and the altcoins follow it. I have read the good news this morning that China and CEO Twitter has been giving BTC impact up today.

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No, I don't think the two are compatible. because Ethereum only supports the ERC-20 platform for ICO projects, it no longer has any other responsibility for the projects.
Therefore, the growth of projects is based on the potential of the project and the development platform contributes only a small part. Wink

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There was no significant influence when IEO was successful because Ethereum did not have a big role. the average IEO benefits the Exchange that holds the IEO because their Product tokens will usually increase. as is the case with IEO binance. can be seen the price of BNB has experienced a significant increase since the introduction of the IEO

that's right,IEO didn't require ETH .it use exchanges native token ,so IEO will not make eth moon ,cause eth demand stable and there is no special need for IEO.but for exchanges token, its price will rise alot when their platform launched IEO. We could see this on binance coin or huobi.compared the price between before and after IEO.we will see significant differences.

Before there was an IEO Ethereum it had gone up, so I think it has nothing to do with IEO, ETH can go up anytime if the whale wants it. IEO will only benefit exchange tokens as you said Binance and Huobi in every IEO must definitely hold their tokens, not ETH, so ETH will be stable and go to the moon even though there is no IEO too.

I don't understand why It does not though. Since every token needs eth for gas it makes sense for it to follow an uptrend. I guess there is a fair amount of dumping still going on and the eth is dumped for fiat or bitcoin. So the tug of war begins between the two. I still believe in eth and keep a fair amount of it set aside. I do it since I need it for tokens and to play games and somethings I can pay with eth using coinpayemnts and other payment methods.

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you did wrong comparison. end of 2017 ICO success = ETH moon, now IEO success doenst mean ETH moon too
2017 and now is very different market sentiment. 2017 had many good news, many pumps coin including bitcoin, etc
those made people FOMO and bought irrationally, that's why ICO, ETH, or even shitcoin could be pump so hard

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Not so many IEOs are built on Ethereum smart contract. Most of these new projects have the aim of having their own network that would leave the benefit for Ethereum which isn't going to affect it anymore.

Quote from: kaneki007 on October 22, 2019, 01:56:53 PM

I don't think if the ICO is successful, the ETH price will go moon, because if their IEO is successful, they can be sure they will sell the ETH obtained from IEO funds for the development of their project.
After IEO became a trend i didn't see ETH price pump

Leave that era, ICO success days were gone and they are not going to come back anymore. And IEOs connection to Ethereum, there's none. If an IEO gets successful, it won't benefit Eth.

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It seems many people still don't understand the concept of IEOs, IEOs is unlike ICOs where contributions are done on the ethereum blockchain and one has to purchase ethereum to participate, the days of gas wars and the fastest fingers and highest gas gets to win the price, IEOs are conducted in centralised exchanges which has nothing to do with ethereum blockchain and the contribution token is not ethereum, it's usually the exchange's own native token. So I see no link between IEOs and ethereum price mooning.

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I don't think if the ICO is successful, the ETH price will go moon, because if their IEO is successful, they can be sure they will sell the ETH obtained from IEO funds for the development of their project.
After IEO became a trend i didn't see ETH price pump

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Quote from: ashmodeus on October 21, 2019, 04:57:50 PM

Using Eth blockchain doesn't mean ETH price will increase . its not simple like that.
Because they just used ETH platform This is the same as you use a transportation service or Rented an apartment.
so maybe u asking, why on 2017 Eth prices so crazy , its because too many demand for eth, because too many Ico using ETH as a payment, not because Using ETH platfrom.
and for now , i cant see any chart or speculation or prediction of high demand for eth because IEO.

But it helps the Ethereum eco-system, gas are being used for every transaction. They need some Ethereum to move the tokens which buildes demand for Ethereum. It might be small but if more and more will use the platform it will surely create a big impact to the buying demand in the market.

i dont see some kind of ecosystem anymore, since its just make trouble for ETH blockchain, make slow transaction, increased of fees , and its seems permanent problem.
and also , OP doesn't ask about ecosystem.

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Quote from: ashmodeus on October 21, 2019, 04:57:50 PM

Using Eth blockchain doesn't mean ETH price will increase . its not simple like that.
Because they just used ETH platform This is the same as you use a transportation service or Rented an apartment.
so maybe u asking, why on 2017 Eth prices so crazy , its because too many demand for eth, because too many Ico using ETH as a payment, not because Using ETH platfrom.
and for now , i cant see any chart or speculation or prediction of high demand for eth because IEO.

But it helps the Ethereum eco-system, gas are being used for every transaction. They need some Ethereum to move the tokens which buildes demand for Ethereum. It might be small but if more and more will use the platform it will surely create a big impact to the buying demand in the market.

You're right, it might affect Ethereum, but I think the success of IEO will not bring a big increase like the success of ICO in 2017. Well, it might increase the ecosystem and transaction costs of ethereum. however, selling IEO does not only focus on ethereum, but it concerns tokens from the IEO market and other coins. as far as I know, IEO can improve the quality of tokens owned by the relevant market, for example like IEO in binance will improve the quality of BNB tokens. that is the thing that I think about.

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Quote from: Hui Ling on July 13, 2019, 08:12:30 PM

as we see now many project are using IEO system to collect funds from investors and I feel IEO is very popular at the moment, besides that I also see a lot of IEO that are currently successful, therefore I am sure that the price of ETH will definitely increase too if many project use blockchain from Ethereum (ERC-20). because as we know in 2017, where ETH prices increase very high due to ICO very popular and successful, so if this year IEO will experience the same thing as ICO in 2017 (popular and successful) then it will make ETH prices increase again (bull run).

During 2017 many ICO success with sold out and higher price after listing, ICO only use ethereum as payment platform where ethereum during 2017 have higher price, after many ICO failed and lower price after listing investor do not interested with ICOs investment and make how drop of ethereum price, to make eth back to higher price we have success ICO project investment.

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in my opinion there is no relationship between IEO and ETH. currently eth continues to decline due to the large number of scam ICO projects. Why does this affect ETH? because most ICO platforms use ETH. and for IEO projects they don't use eth. they immediately get tokens from the project developer which are then given to the exchange. and then the exchange sells the coins to investors. so even though many successful IEOs will not have an impact on the price of ETH.

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Quote from: arifteguhr on October 21, 2019, 07:50:36 PM

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I think that depends on the cryptocurrency exchange listing IEOs. If the majority of cryptocurrency exchanges are using Ethereum for IEO crowdfunding that will help boost the Ethereum price but if the major of crypto exchanges are using bitcoin or any other crypto for IEO crowdfunding, the IEOs will have zero effect on the Ethereum value.

And what happens now is that the IEO conducted by the average exchange using their Token / Coin Products because it is very profitable with the program the price of the altcoin will experience a significant increase. some even up to 2x the price . And ethereum's impact is totally absent in this matter

Definitely, the massive demands that comes alongway the emergence of IEO usually hosted by popular exchange is not something that could be wasted or in the other word it's an opportunity. For the exchange themselves they would definitely think to direct the demands into buying their own token rather than Ethereum. Why? when the price of their token goes up that means their assets too and creating their own blockchain& mainnet is a piece of cake anyway if they have so much employees behind the exchange. It's not a hard thing to know that IEO will hardly gives anything to ETH.

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It's been months since IEO was launch inthe community and i don't see a great leap in the price of Ethereum.
One of the platforms that are really wanted by the investors is Binance, and they are using Binance coin on their IEO.
Yobit has its own tokens too, Kucoin has their KCS. so I don't see Ethereum on their pictures! if this is ICO then there is a huge movement on ETH.

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Quote from: Dreamr on October 21, 2019, 06:41:36 PM

I think that depends on the cryptocurrency exchange listing IEOs. If the majority of cryptocurrency exchanges are using Ethereum for IEO crowdfunding that will help boost the Ethereum price but if the major of crypto exchanges are using bitcoin or any other crypto for IEO crowdfunding, the IEOs will have zero effect on the Ethereum value.

And what happens now is that the IEO conducted by the average exchange using their Token / Coin Products because it is very profitable with the program the price of the altcoin will experience a significant increase. some even up to 2x the price . And ethereum's impact is totally absent in this matter

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The presence of IEO is proven to be able to make crypto great again, I'm sure if without IEO then the price of bitcoin is under $ 1000, unfortunately big investors are still unsure of crypto so many good IEOs but cannot succeed.

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I think that depends on the cryptocurrency exchange listing IEOs. If the majority of cryptocurrency exchanges are using Ethereum for IEO crowdfunding that will help boost the Ethereum price but if the major of crypto exchanges are using bitcoin or any other crypto for IEO crowdfunding, the IEOs will have zero effect on the Ethereum value.

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