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legendary
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You can always borrow from some gangsters, but you know what is going to happen next, most likely. And you are right, banks don't help people who are just poor. Maybe it's "unfair", I don't know, but it is like it is. OP thinks the rewards to those who borrow from banks must be bigger, well, I used to think the ice cream must be cheaper when I was a kid. Smiley
Technically, Loan sharks who will lend money to everyone because they know how to collect them back and they will no matter at what cost and imagine if the borrower has no money at all then the lender will make money by selling the organs too if necessary. Cheesy

Banking is just a business so they are not running a chartity program I wouldn't call them unfair if people do not meet their criteria and if we need someone to blame then policymakers are the reason why poverty exists.

I don't know who is to blame for the fact that poverty exists. It could be policymakers, as you said, or it could be those planning the education, or both. But for us regular people it's more important what we can do in the current situation to not end up in poverty. Blaming others is hardly a solution. Rather, we should try to find a way of making money for living right now. not when the world "will be changed for better".
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This has also been on my mind. Ironic that banks benefit from our loans yet give little in return? I often wonder: What if banks rewarded borrowers? This proposal could make our financial system fairer. Despite our disillusionment with banks, crypto adoption is rising, offering optimism. I believe cryptocurrencies can democratize finance. Bitcoin represents financial freedom. It empowers, right? We're now architects of a new system, not passive players in a defective one

It goes beyond escaping regular banking. This is about accepting a more controllable system. Bitcoin gives me agency that banks never did. Isn't it refreshing? As we explore cryptocurrencies, we realize we're pioneers in a financial revolution, not victims. This significant change inspires me. Take control and change our financial future. Supporting Bitcoin feels like the right move toward a fairer financial environment
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Bank have smart business with getting profit trough loan but there not their money, I have think with this cases how Bank earn much peofitable every years regarding loan interest from borrower but Bank use theit theor costumer for borrowing money.
Actually must be fair with profitable sharing between Bank and costumer save their money in the Bank, likely one side not profitable yet for costumer save much money in the bank but every months have to pay with administration fee but Bank earn benefit with costumer saving money to make it loan.
In this case, the bank will always benefit from those who save their money in the bank and they get very little benefit from saving their money in the bank.
The bank uses customers' money to provide loans to those who apply for loans and earn interest on the installments they pay and when customers who save money want to withdraw large amounts of their money, they must prepare data according to the bank's requirements and must complete it to can withdraw the money they save, so there is very little profit if we choose to save our money in the bank and only the bank makes more profits.
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Don't banks already do that with the credit cards? Where the more you use the bank's credit card then the more they'll reward you with something like flyer miles?
I'd rather call it luring promo than a reward, I know there are banks who are rewarding their client with such privileges but most of the time they are offering it for you to get a credit card with them, from getting a credit card, you already owe them their services and product and so they are free to charge you almost anything they like, if they surcharge you after using it in grocery for $0.50 you'll probably won't see it.

Don't a lot of banks with credit cards already do that, they even have perks where you can get some rewards when you shop on selected stores when you use credit cards. But I get your plight, the problem with rewarding the people that loans in a bank with something is a tricky situation because you can't be too crazy on gifts but at the same time the gifts should be appreciated and sometimes they don't have time for that so they just don't do it.
Banks are really tricky, if you don't read any papers they will hand on you, you're trapped. Are you talking about those colorful umbrellas they are giving away? haha
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Yes If money doesn't existing without someone borrowing this then each person who i use credit or debt Will be rewarded by Banks.
My friend is full debt with mortgage but i told Him to not worry you are just victim of bank and financial system you are not only one.
I Understood allready that we Are all just victims of scam and that's ITS not If but when people will just say banks we don't need you If we don't get rewards.
Becouse when i stake crypto i get profit but banks don't give nothing so i see people wake up and fight against financial scam and Understood we Are just the victims of crimes i don't use Banks anymore and told my bank you gona share your profit with me or get Lost my face.
So i closed my bank and full crypto and Im happy so many people do the Same now becouse everybody Understood that money comes from the debt so more we take debt more money created so i should get rewards for taking debt then If not Im out of financial system not just me a lot more people becouse the system made us victims.
I told my friend tell bank that it's a scam and his victim of bank scheme so all his friends tell Same now to their Banks and flahing front of bankers binance atm debit card.
Now the Even bankers himself might Understood ship is sinking and fastest they get on crypto and btc the better changes to save themselfes becouse this system not working i told my friend before bank Takes his house burn it down or beat up so the bank Will get broken House.
That's how it is people now Understood If they been treated bad they fight back ....
It's unfair they made mortgage rates higher without notice first so we are victims and If anyone struggle financially they now Understood it's the system and we all victims ....Same goes with cars people now smashing it up cars before give to financial swimdlers
I don't think you're getting what Debt means and why banks don't reward people who take loans.

The thing is that they do, and that is the grant of your loan in the first place and the increase of your loan limit in the following instance you take up a loan again after you've paid your first. Banks are not government institutions but are private entities that have their own businesses to keep running. If they dilly-dally and just give everyone the money that they want and need, even after taking out a loan already just as what you're trying to say here, then they'd run out of business and the money that they provide to users will dilute the market causing a massive inflation. Banks are in this precarious position of being a private institution that needs to keep themselves in check, and a government backed entity that needs to ensure they are keeping the best interests of the public and the economy in mind as well.

They don't help the poor people because they knew from the get-go these people will have a harder time paying the debt off than if they don't have it. That's why they sometimes grant loans to businesses and micro-companies who have the vision and the capabilities. They wanna know and ensure that you're going to pay your debt off. That's basically it.
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Bank have smart business with getting profit trough loan but there not their money, I have think with this cases how Bank earn much peofitable every years regarding loan interest from borrower but Bank use theit theor costumer for borrowing money.
Actually must be fair with profitable sharing between Bank and costumer save their money in the Bank, likely one side not profitable yet for costumer save much money in the bank but every months have to pay with administration fee but Bank earn benefit with costumer saving money to make it loan.
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You can always borrow from some gangsters, but you know what is going to happen next, most likely. And you are right, banks don't help people who are just poor. Maybe it's "unfair", I don't know, but it is like it is. OP thinks the rewards to those who borrow from banks must be bigger, well, I used to think the ice cream must be cheaper when I was a kid. Smiley
Technically, Loan sharks who will lend money to everyone because they know how to collect them back and they will no matter at what cost and imagine if the borrower has no money at all then the lender will make money by selling the organs too if necessary. Cheesy

Banking is just a business so they are not running a chartity program I wouldn't call them unfair if people do not meet their criteria and if we need someone to blame then policymakers are the reason why poverty exists.
legendary
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It is so easy to blame the system than making an effort to squeeze the better out of it that is why OP chose the easy way for not becoming financially successful. I am not a supporter of the banking system either because they are the one fooling the people in the first place but when we need loan there is nowhere to go other than banks which may be hard to accept but that is the fact and banks only help people who qualified in certain criteria not just every poor.

Exactly. I mean, if you are in your right mind. You can always borrow from some gangsters, but you know what is going to happen next, most likely. And you are right, banks don't help people who are just poor. Maybe it's "unfair", I don't know, but it is like it is. OP thinks the rewards to those who borrow from banks must be bigger, well, I used to think the ice cream must be cheaper when I was a kid. Smiley
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I just skipped after this and stopped BS, if your friend is in debt means he took a loan and spent it wrongly, and if banks are making money then its their business and if you don't want to take a loan then don't take a loan but blaming the system after taking a loan and can't able to pay back.

Well, bank actually give rewards to people who utilize their credit cards and pay back the due amount on time and your credit score gets better so in future you can get loans for less interest.

I wanted to say the same thing. In short, if you know a better economic model for banks than the existing one, open your own bank and start making money, mate, instead of complaining. It's better than to be just grumpy while doing nothing. Learn economy on high level(it's hard, I must warn you) and beat all the current economists, and not only me but everyone will wish you success in that.

It is so easy to blame the system than making an effort to squeeze the better out of it that is why OP chose the easy way for not becoming financially successful. I am not a supporter of the banking system either because they are the one fooling the people in the first place but when we need loan there is nowhere to go other than banks which may be hard to accept but that is the fact and banks only help people who qualified in certain criteria not just every poor.
legendary
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If the banks rewarding the borrowers instead of charge more money, the banks won't offer loan in the first place since they didn't make any money. Banks isn't charity, they're not your brother or parent who willing to give their money for free without hoping the money will back to them.

What about this, I take $5K no collateral loan from you, I will pay $5K, after that you give me additional $1K as a bonus.
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I personally have no active bank account right now as my old account was closed due to inactivity and no balance for like 3 months I guess. My debit card supposed to expire by 2027 but yeah it was already blocked and that is how it works, once they get nothing from you they'll do the right thing. But it's okay I have alternatives like e-wallets not owned by a bank and a crypto wallet that is decentralized and doesn't need a bank as well. Banks don't like poor people therefore poor people don't have access to banks.

Yup, that's a part of their rules about having an account with banks, They will automatically blocked your account especially if it is dormant or inactive. Same on your opinion, seems like they will easily kicked you out because they have nothing to gain from you and when it comes to reward, bank will give you a super little percentage of gain interest from the money that you've deposited to them which is totally not worth it.
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Yes If money doesn't existing without someone borrowing this then each person who i use credit or debt Will be rewarded by Banks.
My friend is full debt with mortgage but i told Him to not worry you are just victim of bank and financial system you are not only one.
I Understood allready that we Are all just victims of scam and that's ITS not If but when people will just say banks we don't need you If we don't get rewards.
Becouse when i stake crypto i get profit but banks don't give nothing so i see people wake up and fight against financial scam and Understood we Are just the victims of crimes i don't use Banks anymore and told my bank you gona share your profit with me or get Lost my face.
So i closed my bank and full crypto and Im happy so many people do the Same now becouse everybody Understood that money comes from the debt so more we take debt more money created so i should get rewards for taking debt then If not Im out of financial system not just me a lot more people becouse the system made us victims.
I told my friend tell bank that it's a scam and his victim of bank scheme so all his friends tell Same now to their Banks and flahing front of bankers binance atm debit card.
Now the Even bankers himself might Understood ship is sinking and fastest they get on crypto and btc the better changes to save themselfes becouse this system not working i told my friend before bank Takes his house burn it down or beat up so the bank Will get broken House.
That's how it is people now Understood If they been treated bad they fight back ....
It's unfair they made mortgage rates higher without notice first so we are victims and If anyone struggle financially they now Understood it's the system and we all victims ....Same goes with cars people now smashing it up cars before give to financial swimdlers

I don’t really read all your content, but with a little understanding, you are discussing banks. You are trying to suppose crypto. We understand that, but the same thing: you can't spend your money and still have it back. You are trying to suppose cryptocurrency and hide the truth. Even the crypto you think you have to go back to and stop using banks is still the same thing in crypto. If you spend your crypto, you will not get anything, and nobody will pay you out of what you spent. If you spend your fiat or crypto till you work for another one to get it back, why will the bank pay you when you have already spent what you have in them? I don’t think that makes any sense to me.

However, I think your friend should blame himself, not the bank, when he was spending his funds. Don’t he think the money will finish now that the money has finished, and you want to put the blame on the bank? That is not fair, man. I think you should understand that debiting is not crediting, so therefore your friend should go and work for another fund, and you guys should stop blaming your bank; it will help you guys. Don’t force your friend to engage in crypto. Remember that saving money in crypto is not the same as saving money in fiat. If you save money in crypto, the market is volatile, your Mooney may be decreasing, and you can’t control your money in crypto.

You changing to cryptocurrency completely is unbelievable, man. You want to tell us you are not using fiat banks anymore? I think your post is just for the sake of merit, not reality, using only crypto as a means for payments. I don’t think I’ll believe the reason is that I haven’t seen a country where they accept crypto as a means of payment, even though I don’t know yours.
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I just skipped after this and stopped BS, if your friend is in debt means he took a loan and spent it wrongly, and if banks are making money then its their business and if you don't want to take a loan then don't take a loan but blaming the system after taking a loan and can't able to pay back.

Well, bank actually give rewards to people who utilize their credit cards and pay back the due amount on time and your credit score gets better so in future you can get loans for less interest.

I wanted to say the same thing. In short, if you know a better economic model for banks than the existing one, open your own bank and start making money, mate, instead of complaining. It's better than to be just grumpy while doing nothing. Learn economy on high level(it's hard, I must warn you) and beat all the current economists, and not only me but everyone will wish you success in that.
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Don't banks already do that with the credit cards? Where the more you use the bank's credit card then the more they'll reward you with something like flyer miles? Don't a lot of banks with credit cards already do that, they even have perks where you can get some rewards when you shop on selected stores when you use credit cards. But I get your plight, the problem with rewarding the people that loans in a bank with something is a tricky situation because you can't be too crazy on gifts but at the same time the gifts should be appreciated and sometimes they don't have time for that so they just don't do it.
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The banks rewarding the borrowers? Are you kidding me? The big retail companies like Amazon are making money out of the online shoppers. Do you think that Amazon is going to reward the online shoppers? Do you really understand how capitalism works? Grin
The banks are making most of their money via fees, commissions and dividends from their investments. The loan interest rates are a part of their revenue, but not the biggest part.
Burning your house, which is under mortgage won't change anything, because the bank will sell the land under the burned house and in most countries, the borrower has to repay the rest of the mortgage loan, even after the bank sells the property.
When you borrow money, you have to play by the rules, that were set by the bank. There's no way around this.
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Yes If money doesn't existing without someone borrowing this then each person who i use credit or debt Will be rewarded by Banks.
My friend is full debt with mortgage but i told Him to not worry you are just victim of bank and financial system you are not only one.
I Understood allready that we Are all just victims of scam and....

I just skipped after this and stopped BS, if your friend is in debt means he took a loan and spent it wrongly, and if banks are making money then its their business and if you don't want to take a loan then don't take a loan but blaming the system after taking a loan and can't able to pay back.

Well, bank actually give rewards to people who utilize their credit cards and pay back the due amount on time and your credit score gets better so in future you can get loans for less interest.
The premise of the OP is flawed, since any company including banks do in fact offer small rewards to their customers for using their credit cards and other forms of loans, however it is mistaken to think all of that money should go towards their customers, otherwise how is any business going to survive? Also the act of shifting the blame is very attractive as people can blame the greedy banks instead of themselves, but this is counterproductive, because if a person thinks that then they will never learn to manage their finances as they should, and they will always find themselves blaming others for their economic troubles.
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Yes, most people are victims of syndicates by banks.  People take loans at risk and banks take advantage of it.  Charges interest on every sum.  It is really disappointing that banks have increased the charges without informing. Almost people are turning away from banks now. Banks have bankrupted many people. Maybe people would not have been so disappointed if they had given good service. If they gave a loan, some interest would be charged on them.  It is normal but they charge compound interest which ends up killing people.
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if you say that creditors should get interest on their deposits, that makes sense, but why do banks need to give rewards to borrowers? it doesn't make sense, because it's like you're giving money to someone who borrowed money from you, very funny.

and you said that you closed your bank account just because you were dissatisfied with it and felt that you were a victim and went full crypto now, is that so BS? i mean, at some point i also didn't like the banking system, but up to this moment i still use it and still believe that banking makes it easier for me to meet my various financial needs. and here you say that you threw away your bank account and went full crypto, that doesn't make sense. even to withdraw or deposit crypto you need a bank.

My friend is full debt with mortgage but i told Him to not worry you are just victim of bank and financial system you are not only one.
I Understood allready that we Are all just victims of scam and that's ITS not If but when people will just say banks we don't need you If we don't get rewards.
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it's not the bank's fault, but your friend's fault in the first place who is shameless about his debt. did he not read the agreement at the start of the loan? there are various things explained about the loan status. if he fails to pay it is entirely his fault for failing to fulfill his obligations. don't play the victim just because you can't afford the loan.
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Bank and the ecosystem are corrupted no doubts but at the same time cryptocurrency is not at a level right now to provide a complete solution which the banks are giving to people. You don't get much in return if you stake your money in banks but that's not the only thing banks do. For instance, you need a loan to grow your business and you have no money but some properties that you are not willing to sell. In this scenario you can ask the bank for a loan by keeping your property as a liability. If you become successful with your investment you can pay back the bank and for this service banks will charge you. I don't have any bank account and I don't think I ever will but going against the system is not going to be the best idea right now.

Bitcoin was initially created not to replace the bank but to provide decentralized services to people who hate the concept of bank. Maybe one day it will replace banks but Bitcoin is not yet perfect to do that. That is why we need a way for both of them to coexist. So that we can take advantage of both of them.
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It's better for us to know banks for what they are, some called them big time extortionist, while some say they are corperate financial loot homes, they are making alot of money from the same money me and you deposited with them in the bank when they make business with them and return nothing to us as interest, yet they will demand for an interest over the ones we lend from them, aside the charges they deduct from having our account with them as banks, I don't know hiw it would have felt if there were never an alternative like cryptocurrency to serve as substitute for using banks and their fiat.
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