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December 04, 2013, 11:03:31 AM
#28
Dummy plugs are weird It depends on the driver..


I am runnign a 7950 + a 5850 and my 7950 needs a dummy plug or needs to be plugged in at first or hashes suck....

12.6 beta drivers, cgminer 2.4.2, diakgcn kernel. and phatk kernel..


On my dedicated rig I am running older drivers and they do not require dummy plugs.

Hi, the dummy is required to avoid this:

Code:
[2013-12-04 11:56:22] CL Platform 0 vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
 [2013-12-04 11:56:22] CL Platform 0 name: AMD Accelerated Parallel Processing
 [2013-12-04 11:56:22] CL Platform 0 version: OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1268.1)
 [2013-12-04 11:56:22] Platform 0 devices: 1
 [2013-12-04 11:56:22]  0       Cypress
 [2013-12-04 11:56:22] CL Platform 1 vendor: Intel(R) Corporation
 [2013-12-04 11:56:22] CL Platform 1 name: Intel(R) OpenCL
 [2013-12-04 11:56:22] CL Platform 1 version: OpenCL 1.1
 [2013-12-04 11:56:22] Platform 1 devices: 1
 [2013-12-04 11:56:22]  0       Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000
 [2013-12-04 11:56:23] Failed to ADL_Adapter_ID_Get. Error -1
 [2013-12-04 11:56:23] Failed to ADL_Adapter_ID_Get. Error -1
 [2013-12-04 11:56:23] Failed to ADL_Adapter_ID_Get. Error -1
 [2013-12-04 11:56:23] Failed to ADL_Adapter_ID_Get. Error -1
 [2013-12-04 11:56:23] Failed to ADL_Adapter_ID_Get. Error -1
 [2013-12-04 11:56:23] Failed to ADL_Adapter_ID_Get. Error -1
[color=red][2013-12-04 11:56:23] ADL found less devices than opencl!
 [2013-12-04 11:56:23] There is possibly more than one display attached to a GPU
 [2013-12-04 11:56:23] Use the gpu map feature to reliably map OpenCL to ADL
 [2013-12-04 11:56:23] WARNING: Number of OpenCL and ADL devices did not match!
 [2013-12-04 11:56:23] Hardware monitoring may NOT match up with devices!
 [2013-12-04 11:56:23] 1 GPU devices max detected
[/color] [2013-12-04 11:56:23] USB all: found 11 devices - listing known devices
 [2013-12-04 11:56:23] No known USB devices

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hero member
Activity: 1078
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June 16, 2012, 10:20:25 PM
#27
I have both installed.... What would work better with the 7950 a 6870 or 5850?
hero member
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June 16, 2012, 12:42:32 PM
#26
Dummy plugs are weird It depends on the driver..


I am runnign a 7950 + a 5850 and my 7950 needs a dummy plug or needs to be plugged in at first or hashes suck....

12.6 beta drivers, cgminer 2.4.2, diakgcn kernel. and phatk kernel..


On my dedicated rig I am running older drivers and they do not require dummy plugs.
Rigs with mixed 7 and 5 series cards will never be optimal Sad

Not true. You can, and should, install 2.1 SDK for the 5850 to mine on, and 2.6 for the 7950. 2.1 is a completely separate OpenCL platform and installs in a completely seperate path from 2.4+. It's VLIW4 hardware (69xx) that is pretty much screwed if you want to use it with GCN hardware, since 2.4/2.5 is fastest with VLIW4, but is incompatible for GCN, and 2.6 is slow as molasses with VLIW4 but is required for GCN.

I tried installing 2.1, but it wouldn't, stating a higher sdk is already installed, 2.5.  It's very complicated if you ask me, from looking at the pm's we bounced back and forth.
hero member
Activity: 1078
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June 16, 2012, 09:12:18 AM
#25
What if your mixing cards.. I have one 7950 and one 5850 as my desktop card in this rig....


Can you run two SDK's Huh

Running the Catalyst 12.6 beta...
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1004
June 15, 2012, 09:42:50 PM
#24
Dummy plugs are weird It depends on the driver..


I am runnign a 7950 + a 5850 and my 7950 needs a dummy plug or needs to be plugged in at first or hashes suck....

12.6 beta drivers, cgminer 2.4.2, diakgcn kernel. and phatk kernel..


On my dedicated rig I am running older drivers and they do not require dummy plugs.
Rigs with mixed 7 and 5 series cards will never be optimal Sad

Not true. You can, and should, install 2.1 SDK for the 5850 to mine on, and 2.6 for the 7950. 2.1 is a completely separate OpenCL platform and installs in a completely seperate path from 2.4+. It's VLIW4 hardware (69xx) that is pretty much screwed if you want to use it with GCN hardware, since 2.4/2.5 is fastest with VLIW4, but is incompatible for GCN, and 2.6 is slow as molasses with VLIW4 but is required for GCN.
hero member
Activity: 770
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June 15, 2012, 06:32:43 PM
#23
If I hit forward and back in Chrome, my text doesn't disappear and I don't have any addons. I just tested it with this post. What browser are you using?
Firefox, i believe because I have scripts blocked, just came to mind, beat tired.

*shrug* I use 11.12 and 12.1 for all my miners and none of them need dummy plugs.

I wonder if because I have in bios, graphics set to onboard "intel's graphics". But I have it set at this, as explained in op.

But other than that, I've got two cards mining away nicely.
hero member
Activity: 742
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June 15, 2012, 05:24:11 PM
#22
Dummy plugs are weird It depends on the driver..


I am runnign a 7950 + a 5850 and my 7950 needs a dummy plug or needs to be plugged in at first or hashes suck....

12.6 beta drivers, cgminer 2.4.2, diakgcn kernel. and phatk kernel..


On my dedicated rig I am running older drivers and they do not require dummy plugs.
Rigs with mixed 7 and 5 series cards will never be optimal Sad
hero member
Activity: 1078
Merit: 502
June 15, 2012, 03:07:04 PM
#21
Dummy plugs are weird It depends on the driver..


I am runnign a 7950 + a 5850 and my 7950 needs a dummy plug or needs to be plugged in at first or hashes suck....

12.6 beta drivers, cgminer 2.4.2, diakgcn kernel. and phatk kernel..


On my dedicated rig I am running older drivers and they do not require dummy plugs.
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1004
June 15, 2012, 02:53:51 PM
#19
*shrug* I use 11.12 and 12.1 for all my miners and none of them need dummy plugs.
hero member
Activity: 742
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June 15, 2012, 01:01:35 PM
#18
Why would you need to use a dummy plug? Drivers 11.7 and greater dont need dummy plug.

I am using 12.1, for my situation, I pulled my dummy plug, the driver on my operating system spits out [you need ati/amd graphics card for driver to work] in some similarity of them lines. So, without the dummy plugin, the 5850 I have here is undetectable.

I recall last December, when I was mining with two 5830's, I didn't need a dummy plug. & I forgot how to use the function to bypass the dummy plug, I went to extend "i think extend" the card, but there is no extend option in the CCC.

Note: thank goodness for lazurus addon, I almost lost every I wrote above, accidentally hit back button. Such an awesome addon.
If I hit forward and back in Chrome, my text doesn't disappear and I don't have any addons. I just tested it with this post. What browser are you using?
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 502
June 15, 2012, 11:38:00 AM
#17
Why would you need to use a dummy plug? Drivers 11.7 and greater dont need dummy plug.

I am using 12.1, for my situation, I pulled my dummy plug, the driver on my operating system spits out [you need ati/amd graphics card for driver to work] in some similarity of them lines. So, without the dummy plugin, the 5850 I have here is undetectable.

I recall last December, when I was mining with two 5830's, I didn't need a dummy plug. & I forgot how to use the function to bypass the dummy plug, I went to extend "i think extend" the card, but there is no extend option in the CCC.

Note: thank goodness for lazurus addon, I almost lost every I wrote above, accidentally hit back button. Such an awesome addon.
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1004
June 15, 2012, 04:01:48 AM
#16
Why would you need to use a dummy plug? Drivers 11.7 and greater dont need dummy plug.
legendary
Activity: 916
Merit: 1003
June 14, 2012, 09:59:21 PM
#15
I was surprised it didn't work.  I made the plug myself with resistors (I'm an engineer not a noob with this stuff) but no go.
Maybe I'll have another whack at it.
hero member
Activity: 770
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June 14, 2012, 09:33:20 PM
#14
I never could get that setup working on my aging Dell.  I've tried a plug on the video port and I've tried BIOS settings.  But it still complains if I don't have the monitor plugged into the ATI mining GPU card no matter what.  So I render on the ATI card and just live with it.
Well if it's Windows, you need a dummy plug on the ATI card.
It's Windows and the dummy plug doesn't work.  It's OK I can live with it.

Hm, are you using the correct resisters and/or tried a different plug with the same resistors?

Here is a great guide, if you like to make sure everything is in place correctly.

http://www.overclock.net/t/384733/the-30-second-dummy-plug

As it should work.
legendary
Activity: 916
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June 14, 2012, 09:26:27 PM
#13
I never could get that setup working on my aging Dell.  I've tried a plug on the video port and I've tried BIOS settings.  But it still complains if I don't have the monitor plugged into the ATI mining GPU card no matter what.  So I render on the ATI card and just live with it.
Well if it's Windows, you need a dummy plug on the ATI card.
It's Windows and the dummy plug doesn't work.  It's OK I can live with it.
hero member
Activity: 770
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June 14, 2012, 08:49:03 PM
#12
With it installed, should I have Virtu On or Off? I do not want anything using the 5850 except GUIMiner, of course :p..

Edit:
Very interesting read indeed.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4199/lucids-virtu-enables-simultaneous-integrateddiscrete-gpu-on-sandy-bridge-platforms

I believe I need it off for what I am doing for the next few months.
hero member
Activity: 770
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June 14, 2012, 08:39:13 PM
#11
Lucid Virtu is also available on some Z75 motherboards.

Sure is available for my board. I was wondering what that lucid was for when I first got this board. Lucid virtu didn't really pop till I seen your last post and had to check the download section.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/download.asp?Model=Z75%20Pro3&o=Win764
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June 14, 2012, 08:26:08 PM
#10
Lucid Virtu is also available on some Z75 motherboards.
hero member
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June 14, 2012, 07:17:05 PM
#9
The only downfall using integrated graphics is that you're going to be consuming a little more power.

That's ok. I'd rather do it this way, so there isn't any interference with my mining Smiley.
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