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December 24, 2015, 02:07:25 AM
#49
Iota or NEM
legendary
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November 21, 2015, 05:31:19 PM
#48
If not bitcoin? Is that because of its traceability? Then Anonymous coins such as Monero might replace it. However, Monero needs mixing to stay anonymous, so the block chain size is bloated. I believe traceability is a good feature of bitcoin.

Everyone is quick to want to trace their coins when they been robbed.
And then more so with the general public i imagine.

Anon shit is a novelty and a gimmick and a rebel anti-establishment heap of bs.
The only people who will benefit are the criminal underground.

In case you guys didn't notice the criminals control all of this crap.. every bit of it.
Silk Road ?
Bitcointalk Trade Thieves and other misc services scammers. (Pump Groups / Exchanges)
Ransomware coders supposedly generate 325 million usd a year ..where is it spent / used ?

Then calculate what the top 50 shit coin proponents here in the Altcoin section every day hold.
1 million worth of BTC ? ..that is generous LOL

I have always found it funny how scammers pump out schemes then let fanboys do all the work defending it etc.
Take Anon shit.. a handful of poor nerds being wannbee keyboard warriors are battling here 24/7
in the name of freedom.. on behalf of a 1 billion dollar criminal underground economy.
And none of those guys have to show their face LOL
They have and use 99.99% of all the coins and make up their own rules for this crypto game.
and ALL OF YOU do the work for them like blind lemmings over the cliff..
..
What do i care if my coins can possibly be tracked using Bitcoin etc ?
Do i have something to hide ? of course not.. i could care less.
..
The group of nerds that sit here bumping their 560 page shill topic push the Anon gimmick so it pad's their wallets.
Same with the tacked on market shit.. or they Crypto 2.0 jargon (appealing to the noobs)
It's their way of pulling the long con Ponzi / pyramid scheme.
You can run a Pump & dump long term or short term.
And these weazles want all the new guys that come along to invest in Monero or whatever
so later down the road they can cash out large coin and get pink Bentley's and Lambo's.

Meanwhile they have to spam and shill hard any gimmick that will lure in the crowd.. what ever takes !
It's a farce and every one of us knows it too !
But we all play along to make money of the naive suckers that stumble in here..

The top 10 on Coimarketcap are nothing but long-con pyramid schemes.
There seems to be this pushed fallacy that if you defend something long enough it magically becomes legit.
ROFL nooooope .

EDIT:
see ? ..look at the ShillTard above my comment !

EDIT2:
In case mod's deleted that guys comment he said nothing but "LTC" in huge bold letters.
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November 21, 2015, 05:18:26 PM
#47
LTC.
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Zichain
November 21, 2015, 04:03:16 PM
#46
If not bitcoin? Is that because of its traceability? Then Anonymous coins such as Monero might replace it. However, Monero needs mixing to stay anonymous, so the block chain size is bloated. I believe traceability is a good feature of bitcoin.

Then I suppose DASH (Darkcoin) would be a good choice if we speaking about the anonymity feature .
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October 25, 2015, 03:50:21 AM
#45
If not bitcoin? Is that because of its traceability? Then Anonymous coins such as Monero might replace it. However, Monero needs mixing to stay anonymous, so the block chain size is bloated. I believe traceability is a good feature of bitcoin.
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October 24, 2015, 05:12:09 PM
#44
we ?
you mean crypto nerds.. *some of them.
i have told you all for ages the only peoples opinions that count are all over the world.
if mass adoption is the goal then what difference doe YOUR opinion matter ?
the real thing that matters is the general public consensus.
is the whole world waiting to join crypto once a coin with anon features are set up ?
is the general public out there going to hold back because of a coin be decentralized or not ?
I get the feeling the world won't care about that and what they WILL care about is if a coin works well..
How under the hood is probably going to more of an after thought.
You think Grandma cares if a coin is decentralized ?
Take a wild guess what some old lady is going to care about (i shouldn't even have to say what it's obvious)

as usual you guys here are all in your own little warped bubble insulated from reality stuck in a loop going nowhere and accomplishing nothing.
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Zichain
October 24, 2015, 12:50:23 PM
#43
guys talking about Bitcoin advertising earlier made a great point !
adoption isn't going to come out of thin air for no reason.
i think so far the driving force to new users has been people who come to make money off it all.
we don't have people showing up at Bitcointalk etc because they want to use a digital currency.
those people are out there unaware this stuff exists for the most part and we have to get to them and bring them in.
and unless this crypto scene is cleaned up and focused i don't see that happening.
we already have a black eye from SilkRoad alone never mind Gox etc etc..


SilkRoad and Gox are all news. More recent one:
https://www.occrp.org/en/daily/4247-italy-police-shut-down-digital-black-market-babylon

There always be something like this.  So basically, if Bitcoin fails in mass adaptation, every other coin will fail as well. maybe except gov issues coined or something like that, which has even more transparent and even less pseudonymous than bitcoin.

a cryptoo currency controlled by the goverment wouldn't make a lot of sense , right ? I mean we want something decentralized and they are against that , so what's the point ?
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October 13, 2015, 02:08:12 AM
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October 12, 2015, 05:01:53 PM
#41
guys talking about Bitcoin advertising earlier made a great point !
adoption isn't going to come out of thin air for no reason.
i think so far the driving force to new users has been people who come to make money off it all.
we don't have people showing up at Bitcointalk etc because they want to use a digital currency.
those people are out there unaware this stuff exists for the most part and we have to get to them and bring them in.
and unless this crypto scene is cleaned up and focused i don't see that happening.
we already have a black eye from SilkRoad alone never mind Gox etc etc..


SilkRoad and Gox are all news. More recent one:
https://www.occrp.org/en/daily/4247-italy-police-shut-down-digital-black-market-babylon

There always be something like this.  So basically, if Bitcoin fails in mass adaptation, every other coin will fail as well. maybe except gov issues coined or something like that, which has even more transparent and even less pseudonymous than bitcoin.
legendary
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October 12, 2015, 02:16:46 PM
#40
guys talking about Bitcoin advertising earlier made a great point !
adoption isn't going to come out of thin air for no reason.
i think so far the driving force to new users has been people who come to make money off it all.
we don't have people showing up at Bitcointalk etc because they want to use a digital currency.
those people are out there unaware this stuff exists for the most part and we have to get to them and bring them in.
and unless this crypto scene is cleaned up and focused i don't see that happening.
we already have a black eye from SilkRoad alone never mind Gox etc etc..
legendary
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October 12, 2015, 09:03:57 AM
#39
Your picture only tells me cryptocurrencies are in a bear market.

Yes, that was the point.
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October 12, 2015, 08:25:45 AM
#38
NXT

Where are the potentials of this alternative coin , because according to coinmarketcap it seems like it's not on the top 10 so I don't see what makes it soo good

The price does not tell you if it's good.

A while ago:

Your picture only tells me cryptocurrencies are in a bear market.
Only Ripple manage to remain steady but it is dropping from a few months ago. The rest of the coins on the top 7 have crashed by a lot.
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October 12, 2015, 04:20:29 AM
#37
NXT

Where are the potentials of this alternative coin , because according to coinmarketcap it seems like it's not on the top 10 so I don't see what makes it soo good

The price does not tell you if it's good.

A while ago:
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Zichain
October 12, 2015, 04:15:24 AM
#36
NXT

Where are the potentials of this alternative coin , because according to coinmarketcap it seems like it's not on the top 10 so I don't see what makes it soo good
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October 12, 2015, 04:12:58 AM
#35
NXT
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Zichain
October 12, 2015, 03:43:28 AM
#34
try monero, or ethereum or maidsafe, i can't see much else, rest are only shit coins with no features

speaking about maidsafe , where this crypto currency is accepted exactly ? or we can't use it until the Maidsafe project is launched and working ? honestly same goes for ethereum & monero I don't see any online shops accepting them , if it's just to hold and trade then I don't see what's the point if im not going to use it as currency (real one)
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October 12, 2015, 01:29:07 AM
#33
It's bitcoin.  That's the form of cryptocurrency adopted by the world.  None of the altcoins will ever surpass bitcoin.  Will there be alternatives?  Yes of course.  But none of them will surpass bitcoin as the cryptocurrency adopted by the world.

"ever" is a dangerous word. Bitcoin will stick around for a while at the top.

But blockchain tech is inefficient, it requires much redundancy and energy. Eventually it will be replaced by a completely decentralized currency without blockchain.
It does not exist yet, but it's the next logical step.
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October 12, 2015, 01:09:40 AM
#32
I posted this in a similar topic in the main BTC forum earlier...

Bitcoin will be around for a while yet!  Regardless of the outcome of the (storm in a tea cup) block size change that is required.

It'll be at least 1-2 years before there is anything challenging its #1 spot and it certainly wont be any of the current alternatives.

Many of those have the same basic limitations as BTC, or at best marginally improve them.  Some of them might find niche markets, Ethereum for example, but most will just fade away while being perpetually replaced by "new" alternatives that offer no significant improvements over what BTC can do.

There are a couple of technologies on the horizon that may pose a threat long term, and plenty of minds (including mine) are working on finding ways to implement real "giant leap" improvements.  The problem with research is it's slow work, 2 years and counting for me, more for others, and as far as I know its going to be at least 6 months before any of these exotic technologies are ready to go full steam ahead.  Even then there is the task of ramp up and roll out, which is again time consuming and expensive.

But, whatever it is, you'll know it when it finally arrives.

i agree 100% ..especially that last line.
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October 11, 2015, 10:02:11 AM
#31
try monero, or ethereum or maidsafe, i can't see much else, rest are only shit coins with no features
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Zichain
October 11, 2015, 07:37:03 AM
#30

In 2011, American Express spent $2.22 billion on ads

This was a 62.8% increase from 2009.

TV: $228 million

Magazines: $63 million

Newspapers: $130 million

Internet: $132 million

Other: $1.67 billion


How much did bitcoin spend on advertising last 12 months? Here is the problem.

That's part of the problem , how people can spend BTC on TV if TV dosen't accept Bitcoins ? how can they spend on magazines aswell if magazines dosen't accept Bitcoins ? etc ...
So we need companies that do such of thing then we ask our self's the question you just asked .
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