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It may help them it may not help them. Everything depends on what they are trying to achieve with what you are explaining to them. For example if someone is really not interested in the Bitcoin then it doesn’t matter if you feed them hours of lectures about the decentralisation or May be Bitcoin itself and thus could end up being fade up. It would be better if see natural growth of bitcoin. The more we push to the non interested peeps the more negativity it creates because they don’t understand what they are getting into and when failed they would just knock it off by saying scam.
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Also the context and the motive of the other person are truly substantial. There is no point talking about decentralization, where the other is not necessarily require them or making it a priority. So instead of shifting the introduction from bitcoin to decentralization, you should adjust to actual use cases and seek the motive that the other person trying to achieve or find.
~So let's assess each person's needs so we can recommend bitcoin in a way customized to their preferences. If I'm looking for a store of value to keep my assets safe, but your focus is on introducing the profit or convenience of using bitcoin as currency, I definitely wouldn't care what you are saying.

That sum up what is important. The context. OP suggests that money is involved since that is what people mainly ask about. I believe shifting the topic specifically to decentralization would rather make it uninteresting if the goal was to spread Bitcoin adoption. Actually motive of getting money is normal, many people seek that, given that, if we tell about the nitty-gritty of the technical stuff people would lose interest.

So OP should rather customize the topic and shift the context to stuff like what makes Bitcoin valuable, and scarce, the aspect of game theory and other things that relates to how Bitcoin gains its value.

And one thing, do you agree with me that when it comes to money, most people care more than anything else, including us? So I think if we want to mention bitcoin to others and want them to listen to what we have to say, we should mention investment and profit first. Next, we will start interlacing to mention other features like decentralization or privacy of bitcoin into the story. That way, they will listen to all we have to say without getting bored.

Depends. If the others deem you respectable and trustworthy, they may consider your opinion instead of carelessly chasing money.

Personally, I wouldn't suggest directly taking the conversation to investment and profit, but rather on the foundational level. How bitcoin is made, the economic system underlying the ecosystem, how the scarcity is systematically designed, and stuff like that as I have been said.

Talking about how Bitcoin could give you profit might seem like you are rather preaching. But if you simply want to spark some interest it could be done, but minimally. I believe the foundational explanation above is important to help people comprehend better.
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It is not a must that if we like decentralization, we will surely like bitcoin, as much as people like freedom they also want a pragmatic fast profitable asset, the question is do you see bitcoin as an incessant profitable asset. I know that several assets are lethargic in terms of profit or returns, I also see bitcoin as a digital asset that requires patience for one to thrive in it. So for me liking decentralization is not enough reason for people to invest or adopt bitcoin as an alternative means for one to store his or her wealth, I think the major thing is the profit people make and this is what matters in any investment, the sluggish increment and price uncertainty could be the reason for some people's apathy in bitcoin.

Indeed, many people say they need decentralization rather than profit, but I doubt those claims. If bitcoin is no longer volatile, there is no possibility of making a profit. Will people continue to love it as they are, or will people quickly find other alternative investments? That won't be possible but I really doubt if it does.

I also assure you that decentralization will never be the main reason to get people excited about bitcoin. Out of the thousands of discussions every day, 90% of the conversations are about price. How can it be said that the decentralization feature is the purpose for people to invest in bitcoin?
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It is not a must that if we like decentralization, we will surely like bitcoin, as much as people like freedom they also want a pragmatic fast profitable asset, the question is do you see bitcoin as an incessant profitable asset. I know that several assets are lethargic in terms of profit or returns, I also see bitcoin as a digital asset that requires patience for one to thrive in it. So for me liking decentralization is not enough reason for people to invest or adopt bitcoin as an alternative means for one to store his or her wealth, I think the major thing is the profit people make and this is what matters in any investment, the sluggish increment and price uncertainty could be the reason for some people's apathy in bitcoin.
you know, bitcoin isn't just about profit (though that's a huge deal, right?), it's about something greater. It's about a new perspective on money, freedom in the world of finance. Increasing slowly? Of course, but the key is to have patience. Some individuals may be frightened by the unpredictability, but isn't this inherent to investments? Bitcoin is sure volatile, but what makes it work is its underlying concept
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Also the context and the motive of the other person are truly substantial. There is no point talking about decentralization, where the other is not necessarily require them or making it a priority. So instead of shifting the introduction from bitcoin to decentralization, you should adjust to actual use cases and seek the motive that the other person trying to achieve or find.
~So let's assess each person's needs so we can recommend bitcoin in a way customized to their preferences. If I'm looking for a store of value to keep my assets safe, but your focus is on introducing the profit or convenience of using bitcoin as currency, I definitely wouldn't care what you are saying.

That sum up what is important. The context. OP suggests that money is involved since that is what people mainly ask about. I believe shifting the topic specifically to decentralization would rather make it uninteresting if the goal was to spread Bitcoin adoption. Actually motive of getting money is normal, many people seek that, given that, if we tell about the nitty-gritty of the technical stuff people would lose interest.

So OP should rather customize the topic and shift the context to stuff like what makes Bitcoin valuable, and scarce, the aspect of game theory and other things that relates to how Bitcoin gains its value.

And one thing, do you agree with me that when it comes to money, most people care more than anything else, including us? So I think if we want to mention bitcoin to others and want them to listen to what we have to say, we should mention investment and profit first. Next, we will start interlacing to mention other features like decentralization or privacy of bitcoin into the story. That way, they will listen to all we have to say without getting bored.
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It is not a must that if we like decentralization, we will surely like bitcoin, as much as people like freedom they also want a pragmatic fast profitable asset, the question is do you see bitcoin as an incessant profitable asset. I know that several assets are lethargic in terms of profit or returns, I also see bitcoin as a digital asset that requires patience for one to thrive in it. So for me liking decentralization is not enough reason for people to invest or adopt bitcoin as an alternative means for one to store his or her wealth, I think the major thing is the profit people make and this is what matters in any investment, the sluggish increment and price uncertainty could be the reason for some people's apathy in bitcoin.
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Is it right to say that if anyone doesn't like decentralization they can never like Bitcoin?
It's a fallacy to assume that if they don't like X then they can never like Y even if X is an integral part of Y, in this case it's bitcoin and decentralization. Decentralization is just an aspect of bitcoin so I don't think that they will necessary like it because there are other things that bitcoin has to offer with financial freedom being one of the examples. Also, there's a lot of people that have been interested in bitcoin and have been using it since but doesn't know squat about the technical aspects or what even is the true purpose of bitcoin is. My point is that, you don't have to cover all the bases when it comes to things unless you want to be an expert on that thing then by all means go for it so don't stop preaching about bitcoin even if they don't like the idea of decentralization.

what more can i say? that is true, for sure, a lot of bitcoin holders don't know about the true nature of it. and yet, they are here holding, trading their bitcoin. so it doesn't automatically translate that if you like decentralisation, you immediately like btc or the other way around. the truth is, a lot jump into this market, because they have heard about bitcoin and not because it is a decentralised coin, you know what i mean? and later on, they learned that btc is a decentralised currency and a lot of alts are centralised in nature.
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I have tried talking to people about Bitcoin but a higher number of them don't show any interest, they have idea what Bitcoin is but they don't see any reason to join the train so I am thinking, to cut short my time and energy, do you think it's better to talk about decentralization first?
Yes you can but it takes painstaking effort, you need to prepare some analogical explanations that have to relate to their real life economic constraints how important decentralization is.

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Is it right to say that if anyone doesn't like decentralization they can never like Bitcoin?
Can't confirm that. Everyone who asks me about bitcoin, they're just hoping for an answer about taking advantage of volatility. Meaning they see bitcoin as a get-rich-quick scheme without doing anything regardless of centralized way or not.
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Is it right to say that if anyone doesn't like decentralization they can never like Bitcoin?
It's a fallacy to assume that if they don't like X then they can never like Y even if X is an integral part of Y, in this case it's bitcoin and decentralization. Decentralization is just an aspect of bitcoin so I don't think that they will necessary like it because there are other things that bitcoin has to offer with financial freedom being one of the examples. Also, there's a lot of people that have been interested in bitcoin and have been using it since but doesn't know squat about the technical aspects or what even is the true purpose of bitcoin is. My point is that, you don't have to cover all the bases when it comes to things unless you want to be an expert on that thing then by all means go for it so don't stop preaching about bitcoin even if they don't like the idea of decentralization.
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indeed among people who don't know about btc then they won't be interested in btc, but in my opinion people who reject bitcoin don't mean they don't like decentralization but they just don't know about the benefits of investing in bitcoin, I'm sure if you can explain it well and wise about btc then surely people will be potentially interested in investing in btc.
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Don't force anyone to listen to you or learn Bitcoin because if they don't want to, then for sure you'll waste your energy. Also,  no matter what you  tell them first (value or decentralization), if they are not interested, then they don't care about it because mostly if you tell them the value of it, which is very high, they will get interested in it. Right now, people don't care if it is decentralized or not; they want the value of it and want to earn Bitcoin.
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The greater multitude do not care much about decentralization or privacy, it’s easier to convince people to buy bitcoin because of the financial gains they can make from the market volatility than telling them that they can be their own bank. Only those who are concerned about their privacy and are less trusting of government systems will see a problem with the centralized system and want an alternative to this system.
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I have tried talking to people about Bitcoin but a higher number of them don't show any interest, they have idea what Bitcoin is but they don't see any reason to join the train -snip-
If they are not interested with Bitcoin investment, it is not a problem. Don't force people, people have the right whether to join or not. If they are not interested, surely they will never have a reason to join. You just waste your time and efforts to talk with them. I suggest you to stop talking about Bitcoin with them.

Is it right to say that if anyone doesn't like decentralization they can never like Bitcoin?
It is not about decentralization, it is about the people's interest.
There are people who aren't interested in high risk investment like Bitcoin. Even if they like decentralization, they have no courage to take high risks.

I am not trying to force anyone into Bitcoin but people never stop asking me how I am making money for myself and most of my income comes from Bitcoin trading, as you can see
Respond them with a common answer. You don't need to explain your job in detail, nor describing your trading job specifically. If you want to share the information about Bitcoin trading, just for the people that you think they are likely interested in. Avoid to share it with the people who never respect Bitcoin or crypto.

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It is not about the decentralisation, it is all about the physical presence. During the early days I've suffered to brief it to people as they never understand the term virtual money. How does it hold value and there is no paper money, because for years and years this how people have used to it. Only through experience people were able to understand better and in such stance I've made few people under well about it. During those the word bitcoin itself rare and now things have changed alot. Goodness of decentralised function and all will be learnt in the later part, initially they need to believe which itself a big task.
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You have to realize that before they like decentralization and bitcoin, they must first experience how beneficial it is to their lives. People are egotistic at the core and they wouldn't care about even the most important shit out there if it doesn't affect them in the most direct of ways. With that being said you must first drive the benefit of decentralization or bitcoin to them. Lend them some and show them how much it grows in value over time, start campaigns and seminars with trinkets and benefits that they can avail for attending and listening, which will be gauged by giving them an exam later on. Allow them to learn about it and be interested before you blabber about getting people interested on bitcoin through decentralization. It's easy to say that people will like it but if they can't experience the effects outright they wouldn't give a rat's ass.
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Not everyone chooses bitcoin because of decentralization, nor does everyone choose bitcoin because of money, and most of them have various reasons why they choose bitcoin.

The concept of decentralization is great and of course it has helped a lot of people get out of the concept of centralized finance. Some people don't mind the concept as long as they make a profit, but the idea of ​​decentralization is really good amid the collapse of many people's faith in a centralized financial system. I personally chose bitcoin because of the potential price that can give me returns (trading and investing), but not completely making me ignore some of the other innovations from Satoshi Nakamoto's findings.

That's a good stance and I respect your opinion. It's true that not everyone would appreciate some of the benefits that come with bitcoin such as decentralization and full control of financial assets. I feel it is only people that have had ill or bad experiences with centralized financial services that would relate to the bitcoin movement and possibly become a part of it. As someone that have had their asset frozen at one point in time makes me appreciate what bitcoin does and represent. Getting full control of assets is a concept still new to many but truly fascinating. Bitcoin also has opportunities that are normally not available in the traditional finance world. Here, anyone can become easily become part pf a community and benefitting from it without actually giving away their personal details to pass KYC exercise. Other stuffs (increase in price, opportunities, etc are added perks). Bitcoin is what the traditional financial industry strives to be but failed.
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Average Joe don't care about decentralization or flaws of traditional banking system. They don't care until that time comes where they can't withdraw their own money or a big economic crisis happens. Look what happened in Lebanon. Look back at history and see what happened in Greece a couple of years before or Türkiye in the 90's. Try to cash out 5 digits in your bank and see what happens. There are many reasons for people to want Bitcoin and decentralization but many don't realise that yet.
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I have tried talking to people about Bitcoin but a higher number of them don't show any interest, they have idea what Bitcoin is but they don't see any reason to join the train so I am thinking, to cut short my time and energy, do you think it's better to talk about decentralization first?

Is it right to say that if anyone doesn't like decentralization they can never like Bitcoin?

I am not trying to force anyone into Bitcoin but people never stop asking me how I am making money for myself and most of my income comes from Bitcoin trading, as you can see, I have no choice but to teach about Bitcoin if I feel like helping someone out.

If we discuss decentralization then we might end up refuting the government system itself and that is somehow being rebellious and might not bode well.  I would just stay in the context of Bitcoin having the freedom of transactions.  Bitcoin is a cryptocurrency that can be sent regardless of the location of the sender and receiver.  That it does not need any permission from a third-party financial institution and Bitcoin is already acknowledged by many governments in terms of being a commodity and mode of payment.  It is better to explain things in a simpler manner than diving into the more complex stuff that may make our listener to be confused.
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Not everyone chooses bitcoin because of decentralization, nor does everyone choose bitcoin because of money, and most of them have various reasons why they choose bitcoin.

The concept of decentralization is great and of course it has helped a lot of people get out of the concept of centralized finance. Some people don't mind the concept as long as they make a profit, but the idea of ​​decentralization is really good amid the collapse of many people's faith in a centralized financial system. I personally chose bitcoin because of the potential price that can give me returns (trading and investing), but not completely making me ignore some of the other innovations from Satoshi Nakamoto's findings.
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I have tried talking to people about Bitcoin but a higher number of them don't show any interest, they have idea what Bitcoin is but they don't see any reason to join the train so I am thinking, to cut short my time and energy, do you think it's better to talk about decentralization first?

Is it right to say that if anyone doesn't like decentralization they can never like Bitcoin?

I am not trying to force anyone into Bitcoin but people never stop asking me how I am making money for myself and most of my income comes from Bitcoin trading, as you can see, I have no choice but to teach about Bitcoin if I feel like helping someone out.
Why force people to talk about what they are not interested in? You have nothing to do? Save your time and energy.

Decentralization is more likely to be misunderstood than people don't like it. The time will come and people will like bitcoin. I'm not sure that everyone, but it is possible that many. They will become interested and then you can start talking about it with them.

The mistake is that people want to learn how to make money, and not learn about bitcoin. There is a choice: let people learn information about btc themselves. There is a lot of information in the public domain. You only slightly direct them in the right direction and let them do the rest. This way you save your time and energy.

I would have to disagree with you. The way it works is that most people are not interested in something that you are interested in, but after hearing about it more, even if they do not want to, they will eventually become interested in Bitcoin. So what m2017 is doing is the right thing. Keep sowing the seeds of Bitcoin in people's minds! Thats what will drive worldwide adoption of Bitcoin as the global money. The more people hear about Bitcoin, the more they become interested.

Most people are too rigid when it comes to new things. They would prefer to keep their old ways. In-Your-Face marketing is the only option.
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