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Thats why I think if a chance is given to Taliban and they make Afghanistan a peaceful country then it won't be bad.


But Iran is a good country for living

I think everyone would agree that life in Iran is different to life in Afghanistan. The issue in Afghanistan is not so much the enforcing of Sharia law, as the fact that it is the Taliban doing so. Sharia law may look barbaric and antiquated, but interpretation is flexible; the effects of its implementation depends largely on who it is doing the implementing.

Most nations are interested only in threats to themselves. I don't think the West will do much — if anything — when the Taliban starts oppressing the population of Afghanistan. The West will only be interested if the country starts to become a breeding ground for terrorism that is then exported.
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Talibans are making promises now, thats why I think that a chance should be given to Taliban, it is possible that they have changed now.

What is this “if” talk. The taliban will aggressively try to force their views on the rest of the world now and the women in Afghanistan were most certainly left to fend for themselves by Joe Biden’s decision to pull out without any thought or real plan. It will be challenging for the US to ever find allies that will trust us again in a similar circumstance. Women are already disappearing from public view in Afghanistan…
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If the Taliban enforces Sharia law in Afghanistan, what will the West do?

The Taliban's mindset is that Sharia law makes a person prosperous. In case if the Taliban enforces Sharia law in Afghanistan, what will the West do? In that case, the West and all the nations of the world must make their nations prosperous, Poverty must be eradicated, Crime must be eradicated، This is why the Taliban will think that enforcing Sharia law is not necessary, Prosperity of society and freedom of human beings are essential.

Sharia is the Islamic rule of law. However prosperous Western nations might become, Islamists will necessarily favor the rule of law which puts their ideology (and for that matter themselves) in charge. In effect there's no competition; it's Islam vs. non-Islam.
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But Iran is a good country for living

I think everyone would agree that life in Iran is different to life in Afghanistan. The issue in Afghanistan is not so much the enforcing of Sharia law, as the fact that it is the Taliban doing so. Sharia law may look barbaric and antiquated, but interpretation is flexible; the effects of its implementation depends largely on who it is doing the implementing.

Most nations are interested only in threats to themselves. I don't think the West will do much — if anything — when the Taliban starts oppressing the population of Afghanistan. The West will only be interested if the country starts to become a breeding ground for terrorism that is then exported.
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What will the west do ?? ?  They just pulled out, you're really expecting them to go back in there?

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Talibans are Afghans  too. If they are now running the country which we have seen they celebrated independence already, then it's their country. It's a free country and they can do whatever they like. If anyone doesn't like them implementing their laws, they are free to go out of the country as far as I can see the news, they are allowing everyone to go out of the country if they want.

The Talibans are now their government there. The kind of democracy the western has introduced didn't work for them because the country is just decentralized on its own with so many tribes.
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What is this “if” talk. The taliban will aggressively try to force their views on the rest of the world now and the women in Afghanistan were most certainly left to fend for themselves by Joe Biden’s decision to pull out without any thought or real plan. It will be challenging for the US to ever find allies that will trust us again in a similar circumstance. Women are already disappearing from public view in Afghanistan…
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If the Taliban enforces Sharia law in Afghanistan, what will the West do?


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But Iran is a good country for living, I did not find any restriction on people who follow other religions like Judaism, Christinity, Islam and even womens are free to work, they can go to universities or work, the women can even drive the vhicles, women can perform any activity freely , They have co-education. It is a civilized nation comparing to other regions while victims like Malala can be found in Pakistan, In Saudi Arabia, people are beheaded, they are treated badly. King Salman is a man who supports terrorism. The Saudi government has repeatedly funded terrorists whose documents are available on the Internet. I don't think there is Sharia law in Iran because there is nothing in it that forces a person to be forced into another religion or deprives people of their freedom. Can something similar be expected in Afghanistan? Hazaras are not safe in Afghanistan or Pakistan either, with many such reports appearing in the BBC and the New York Times. Even before the US war on Afghanistan, the situation in Afghanistan was the worst, the people there were not safe. However Talibans are now making promises so a chance should be given to them, it is possible that they have changed.

If sharia law is the religious law of Islam then why there is no such law exists in other muslim countries, Even Iran has no such kind of law. They have law but it is made by them. There is only restriction that people who are not couples cannot touch each other as it might be a type of harresment. I don't know how but there is their own ideology. Even that kind of law does not exist in Pakistan which is producing the Talibans.

Sharia law is used in other countries, yes. Including Iran, yes. As I say though, it can be intrepreted and applied in different ways.

Here's an example crime and punishment in Iran:
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Theft (sirqhat-e-haddi): 1st offense, amputation of the 4 right fingers; 2nd offense, amputation of the 5 left toes; 3rd offense, life imprisonment; 4th offense, death penalty.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_system_of_the_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran#Hadd_crimes


As for which countries use Sharia law, this is as good a link as any: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_of_Sharia_by_country

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Article 167 of the constitution states that all judicial rulings must be based upon "authoritative Islamic sources and authentic fatwa". Book 2 of the Islamic Penal Code of Iran is entirely devoted to hudud punishments. Iranian application of sharia has been seen by scholars as highly flexible and directly contradicting traditional interpretations of the sharia.

Pakistan
The Constitution of Pakistan acknowledges God as the sole sovereign of the universe and the Parliament as a delegate. The Constitution of Pakistan requires that all laws conform with Islam and not conflict with the Quran or Sunnah. The Council of Islamic Ideology reviewed the British era legislation and found most of it did not conflict with Sharia. Sharia was declared the Supreme Law of Pakistan in the 1991 Enforcement of Shariat Act. Section 4 stipulates that courts select an interpretation of law consistent with Islamic jurisprudence and principles.

Saudi Arabia
Saudi law is based entirely on sharia. No codified personal status law exists, which means that judges in courts rule based on their own interpretations of sharia. See Legal system of Saudi Arabia. However as of 2021, Saudi Arabia has new laws of codified which include The Personal Status Law, the Civil Transactions Law, the Penal Code for Discretionary Sanctions, and the Law of Evidence implemented by reformist crown prince Mohammed Bin Salman.


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The West will watch closely but I doubt they will do anything. USA lost the war in Afghanistan it was a stalemate for 20 years and when they finally left the Taliban took the country in a month. Billions of dollars of tax payers money was wasted because there was no result for America. They will now watch as the Taliban become a power in the middle east while they try to recoup what they lost.
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If sharia law is the religious law of Islam then why there is no such law exists in other muslim countries, Even Iran has no such kind of law. They have law but it is made by them. There is only restriction that people who are not couples cannot touch each other as it might be a type of harresment. I don't know how but there is their own ideology. Even that kind of law does not exist in Pakistan which is producing the Talibans.

Sharia law is used in other countries, yes. Including Iran, yes. As I say though, it can be intrepreted and applied in different ways.

Here's an example crime and punishment in Iran:
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Theft (sirqhat-e-haddi): 1st offense, amputation of the 4 right fingers; 2nd offense, amputation of the 5 left toes; 3rd offense, life imprisonment; 4th offense, death penalty.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_system_of_the_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran#Hadd_crimes


As for which countries use Sharia law, this is as good a link as any: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_of_Sharia_by_country

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Iran
Article 167 of the constitution states that all judicial rulings must be based upon "authoritative Islamic sources and authentic fatwa". Book 2 of the Islamic Penal Code of Iran is entirely devoted to hudud punishments. Iranian application of sharia has been seen by scholars as highly flexible and directly contradicting traditional interpretations of the sharia.

Pakistan
The Constitution of Pakistan acknowledges God as the sole sovereign of the universe and the Parliament as a delegate. The Constitution of Pakistan requires that all laws conform with Islam and not conflict with the Quran or Sunnah. The Council of Islamic Ideology reviewed the British era legislation and found most of it did not conflict with Sharia. Sharia was declared the Supreme Law of Pakistan in the 1991 Enforcement of Shariat Act. Section 4 stipulates that courts select an interpretation of law consistent with Islamic jurisprudence and principles.

Saudi Arabia
Saudi law is based entirely on sharia. No codified personal status law exists, which means that judges in courts rule based on their own interpretations of sharia. See Legal system of Saudi Arabia. However as of 2021, Saudi Arabia has new laws of codified which include The Personal Status Law, the Civil Transactions Law, the Penal Code for Discretionary Sanctions, and the Law of Evidence implemented by reformist crown prince Mohammed Bin Salman.

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Do you really think that the United States and the West really care whether or not the Taliban have implemented Sharia law in Afghanistan? Do you really think that they will try to provide a civilized content of freedom and democracy to their people in order to make the Taliban abandon their strict application of Islamic law?
Let me then tell you something very important. The United States and the West are pushing the Taliban and giving the Taliban the opportunity to implement their strict understanding of Islamic law. They indirectly encourage the Taliban to practice religious extremism so that they give a distorted image of Islam!!!! They watch and do nothing, but watch with pleasure from a distance, and when they feel that the danger is approaching their interests at that time, they only intervene directly.
Unfortunately, the Taliban give the worst picture of Islamic law through their religious strictness and through the cruel and inhuman rulings they apply in Afghanistan. They understand Islam in a wrong way and practice their wrong understanding on the Afghan people by force of arms.
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Do you really think that the United States and the West really care whether or not the Taliban have implemented Sharia law in Afghanistan? Do you really think that they will try to provide a civilized content of freedom and democracy to their people in order to make the Taliban abandon their strict application of Islamic law?
Let me then tell you something very important. The United States and the West are pushing the Taliban and giving the Taliban the opportunity to implement their strict understanding of Islamic law. They indirectly encourage the Taliban to practice religious extremism so that they give a distorted image of Islam!!!! They watch and do nothing, but watch with pleasure from a distance, and when they feel that the danger is approaching their interests at that time, they only intervene directly.
Unfortunately, the Taliban give the worst picture of Islamic law through their religious strictness and through the cruel and inhuman rulings they apply in Afghanistan. They understand Islam in a wrong way and practice their wrong understanding on the Afghan people by force of arms.
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If sharia law is the religious law of Islam then why there is no such law exists in other muslim countries, Even Iran has no such kind of law. They have law but it is made by them. There is only restriction that people who are not couples cannot touch each other as it might be a type of harresment. I don't know how but there is their own ideology. Even that kind of law does not exist in Pakistan which is producing the Talibans.

The Taliban's mindset is that Sharia law makes a person prosperous. In case if the Taliban enforces Sharia law in Afghanistan, what will the West do? In that case, the West and all the nations of the world must make their nations prosperous, Poverty must be eradicated, Crime must be eradicated، This is why the Taliban will think that enforcing Sharia law is not necessary, Prosperity of society and freedom of human beings are essential.

I think it's more of an ideology. Sharia law is the religious law of Islam. It can be intrepreted and applied in different ways, but the Taliban's interpretation is extremely strict... presumably to imply religious purity. I don't think prosperity comes into it, really.

As for what the West will do, likely nothing at the moment, concentrate on the withdrawal and trying to reduce casualties. After which the US and allies will no doubt keep a close eye on Afghanistan in order to monitor what happens with terrorist groups. If something emerges that is deemed a credible threat, then I suppose that could be a time for intervention.
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The Taliban's mindset is that Sharia law makes a person prosperous. In case if the Taliban enforces Sharia law in Afghanistan, what will the West do? In that case, the West and all the nations of the world must make their nations prosperous, Poverty must be eradicated, Crime must be eradicated، This is why the Taliban will think that enforcing Sharia law is not necessary, Prosperity of society and freedom of human beings are essential.

I think it's more of an ideology. Sharia law is the religious law of Islam. It can be intrepreted and applied in different ways, but the Taliban's interpretation is extremely strict... presumably to imply religious purity. I don't think prosperity comes into it, really.

As for what the West will do, likely nothing at the moment, concentrate on the withdrawal and trying to reduce casualties. After which the US and allies will no doubt keep a close eye on Afghanistan in order to monitor what happens with terrorist groups. If something emerges that is deemed a credible threat, then I suppose that could be a time for intervention.
The US's desire to get out of Afghanistan did not just happen, but was accompanied by a number of demands. after the US conveyed their demands to the Taliban. The US's desire to leave was then processed until the Afghanistan peace delivery agreement was signed between the US and the Taliban in Doha, Qatar some time ago. "So the process has been several years ago, it has been a long time, and the results are two main points, the US has started to leave. So the US's exit had been planned for a long time.
And one of the things that America demands of the Taliban is to ask for the Taliban's commitment not to use Afghan soil as a dangerous activity. maybe if they break the agreement then America will act again, but hopefully this war really is over
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The Taliban's mindset is that Sharia law makes a person prosperous. In case if the Taliban enforces Sharia law in Afghanistan, what will the West do? In that case, the West and all the nations of the world must make their nations prosperous, Poverty must be eradicated, Crime must be eradicated، This is why the Taliban will think that enforcing Sharia law is not necessary, Prosperity of society and freedom of human beings are essential.

I think it's more of an ideology. Sharia law is the religious law of Islam. It can be intrepreted and applied in different ways, but the Taliban's interpretation is extremely strict... presumably to imply religious purity. I don't think prosperity comes into it, really.

As for what the West will do, likely nothing at the moment, concentrate on the withdrawal and trying to reduce casualties. After which the US and allies will no doubt keep a close eye on Afghanistan in order to monitor what happens with terrorist groups. If something emerges that is deemed a credible threat, then I suppose that could be a time for intervention.

We might even see the destruction of the country in the near future, after the people of Afghanistan retreats to other countries.

And this will turn into another conflict and may even start the World War I guess.

That seems to be the point. The NWO is collapsing the Middle East and Africa so these people feel ever compelled to migrate to Westernized nations. Adding to the fact that Welfare programs for these migrants add to the allure and you've got a migration crisis the likes you have never seen.

First they collapsed Libya and the rest of Africa south of Libya was already in disarray. Gadhafi was going to adopt a gold based standard away from the dollar which is one other reason why they took him out. Before they took him out Saddam as he wanted to adopt the Euro over the dollar. I wonder if they will overthrow El Salvador for accepting BTC as currency? I bet they'll use the cartels to do it. They tried to collapse Syria into a new government pro-Qatari so that Qatar would have the gas pipeline over Russia but they lost that battle as Russia still is able to maintain Syria. I think they made a deal with Europe to transport gas to their country. If they didn't then they would be faced with a migrant crisis themselves. Back to your topic Afghanistan, they collapsed Afghanistan for the same reason to cause instability and reason to accept migrants.

Back to the overall migration crisis, so they want to cause a migrant crisis for Westernized nations so they too like the lower developed nations will collapse and be forced to accept the doctrine of the Great Reset where no one owns anything but is forced to submit to a new authority yet to be fully manifested.

The real solution is to build these nations back up again through trade and commerce but because of the "COVID" crisis no one will listen and allow this to happen like using other forms of medicine besides a "vaccine" or a ventilator.

 
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The Taliban's mindset is that Sharia law makes a person prosperous. In case if the Taliban enforces Sharia law in Afghanistan, what will the West do? In that case, the West and all the nations of the world must make their nations prosperous, Poverty must be eradicated, Crime must be eradicated، This is why the Taliban will think that enforcing Sharia law is not necessary, Prosperity of society and freedom of human beings are essential.

I think it's more of an ideology. Sharia law is the religious law of Islam. It can be intrepreted and applied in different ways, but the Taliban's interpretation is extremely strict... presumably to imply religious purity. I don't think prosperity comes into it, really.

As for what the West will do, likely nothing at the moment, concentrate on the withdrawal and trying to reduce casualties. After which the US and allies will no doubt keep a close eye on Afghanistan in order to monitor what happens with terrorist groups. If something emerges that is deemed a credible threat, then I suppose that could be a time for intervention.

We might even see the destruction of the country in the near future, after the people of Afghanistan retreats to other countries.

And this will turn into another conflict and may even start the World War I guess.
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The Taliban's mindset is that Sharia law makes a person prosperous. In case if the Taliban enforces Sharia law in Afghanistan, what will the West do? In that case, the West and all the nations of the world must make their nations prosperous, Poverty must be eradicated, Crime must be eradicated، This is why the Taliban will think that enforcing Sharia law is not necessary, Prosperity of society and freedom of human beings are essential.

I think it's more of an ideology. Sharia law is the religious law of Islam. It can be intrepreted and applied in different ways, but the Taliban's interpretation is extremely strict... presumably to imply religious purity. I don't think prosperity comes into it, really.

As for what the West will do, likely nothing at the moment, concentrate on the withdrawal and trying to reduce casualties. After which the US and allies will no doubt keep a close eye on Afghanistan in order to monitor what happens with terrorist groups. If something emerges that is deemed a credible threat, then I suppose that could be a time for intervention.
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