Topic: If they don't have Stocks Available " Please Don't Buy " "No More Pre Orders" - page 2. (Read 2997 times)

Yes Please avoid any Pre Orders, and if they don't have stocks please don't Buy, and if they don't accept credit cards please Don't Buy.

Right on the best way to my message across. Don' Buy if they don't have any stocks.

To be fair to eve at least they have nice and short and to the point posts and replies.  Far better than a lot of the windbags around here.

Agree

don't forget scam pre-orders

What I think we need is some kind of community authenticated pre-order product check in order to at least set a % of risk as to persons Identity as well as other facts.

However unrealistic to expect, we have lacked transparency with respects manufactures claims. Thus far Bitfury has raised the bar for ASIC details proven prior to taking pre-orders..

Only people who preorder will ever make money.

If there was a miner being sold that you could get right now and it was profitable, everyone would buy it, difficulty would rise and it would no longer be profitable.

Only people who take a risk and preorder will ever have a chance of making a profit from mining.

I think it's great that you are telling everyone not to pre-order. Thats means more for me!

It's a gamble, some pre-orders have worked out, some haven't

Pre-orders that were good ideas:

- Avalon Batch 1
- Early Jalapenos
- Avalon batch 2

Bad ideas:

- pretty much anything else from BFL
- Avalon batch 3
- probably Avalon chips, but too early to tell

Basically just one whole clusterf*ck of a transitionary peiriod.

I think that this whole pre-order SNAFU will sort itself out in the next 6 months - people who have lost money (myself included) have learned and those coming in behind us will be able to educate themselves.  Unless BTC hits an all time high, I think, no HOPE that pre-orders will be a thing of the past and (like you said) we'll be back to 'normal' online purchasing (in stock and available or out of stock, come back later).

rather than ban pre-orders, I think we need to educate the community that pre-orders are not as appealing and could end up in a negative roi.  I do think that established companies like BFL, Asicminer, Avalon can do away with the pre-order model and have a rolling always in stock order, disable ordering after stock is not available and re-enable ordering system when stock is replenished.  This would guarantee quick shipping times, less customer complaints, less legal issues and also improve companies reputations. 

you are still without scammer tag here? incredible.

I think he/she means well, and is trying to forewarn people from being stung by unscrupulous business practices...

Well if I didnt pre order avalon batch 2 how do I get a faster RIO? Those who can take risk will be rewarded. Ya take it from someone with less than 200 posts telling everyone not to pre order

Best quote of the Day :-)

So the real question is, if you don't want to pre-order, why are you pre-ordering?  If someone wants to pre-order, why do you care what someone else wants to do?

How are you forced to pre-order from any company?

Why do you feel compelled to want to control others in what they are able and allowed to do?

Preordering is a choice, not a requirement.  No one is required to preorder an ASIC.

This is why ignore lists exist.

I've seen the chip..! If you haven't, check out some serious photos of real already mining chips. (ASICMINER, Avalon, BFL, Bitfury)

Group buys makes it cheaper (probably) and less risky to participate in the mining fever. You should probably next target that those miners -will not- make ROI.

Making sure everyone got my Message

Below are the last 20 posts of "Eve"... I think he/she needs some XanaX and ....relax...



Show us the working Asic Chips please.

We want to see the Asic Chips.

No More Group Buy. Stay Away
      
No More Pre Orders. Please

Don't Join Any Group Buy. Beware and Stay Away. The promoters don't give a shit if your orders has problems. They will Hide inside their Caves and pretend to not know anything.

Just Show US the Asic Chips.

The only thing missing is the Asic Chip, anything else is secondary. Show us the Asic Chips.

Stay Away No Pre Orders Please. Will turn out to be liked Butterfly and Avalon

Yes Please Show us the Asic Chips and the rest can come later

Remember No Pre order. and don't buy if they don't accept credit cards and paypal
It could turn out to be one, since they don't accept credit cards. Stay Away Please. No Pre order.

Yes No More Pre Orders

Yes, we have our internet inside our caves.

Stay Away and Stay Clear of Group Buys and Pre Orders. The promoters only wants to make money out of you.

Could end up like BFL 13 months later

Where is Mr.Abdi? mia? We thought he will come back with some good news like lowest price per gh/s, payment by paypal and credit cards and on time guarantee delivery?
mark my words could even be longer than 13 months or disappear totally into thin air

he is probably still sleeping and thinking what to do next.  

updating his profile on LinkedIn, copy some photos from the web and photo shop them, and other touch up, so they would looks real and not some vapourware.

They were so many new threads on hashfast seems like they are desperate to take your money. beware and stay away. No Pre orders and they don't accept credit cards or Paypal so stay clear.

They are 2 many scams and vendors breaking their promises on pre orders, so don't, don't and DON'T BUY Pre Orders.

Good point. I was both a BFL customer (refunded) and an Avalon customer (delayed). Both of them left a bad taste in my mouth. I want other companies to come in and show them how it's done. These new companies will not be able to get off the ground without help from pre-orders.

Most people don't have millions around to fund R&D/production of a Bitcoin ASIC.

if you don't preorder, there will be little competition. you will be stuck with avalon and bfl as the major players. are they who you want to do business with?