Well, some signal groups are created to help others, especially newbies but not with the purpose of making you earn a profit, it is for them to learn how to do it and it is free. But also, there are many groups that were created to scam people. It was those groups that were selling their signal asking for huge amounts of money and saying that it was accurate and make you rich if will followed correctly.
That is why it is very important for us to know the group that we follow. We don't have to trust easily because some scammers will just give signals for free first but later on, they will start to ask for payments even if the signal isn't working.
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What do you have to tell me?
A signal giver or blogger has a lot of success behind telling me. They will not waste time on us without interest. They will first open a group and let me join that group and they will release signals there continuously and after some days they will create VIP signal group there. But when I start earning with their free signals I will follow them all the time and later join their VIP signals group even for a monthly fee. Basically this is the main purpose of a signal giver or blogger. I've seen many people on the Binance feed newsgroup using different signals to achieve this objective. Many people have different opinions on this and some people have no idea why they give free signals. 
What do you have to tell me?
Why are there traders who create trading signal groups and slowly sell signals to their members or charge fees for those who want to join their premium group? because as a trader he knows that it is easier to make money by selling his signals than using signals that are sold for his own trading, because there are still many traders who don't realize this, what they do is the same as bloggers who sell ebooks on how to make money from blogs.I have joined both free and paid ones, the results are not much different and it could be said that it is stupid to continue to be in this group because the channel owner can make thousands of dollars from fees while members still have to struggle to make a profit, many signals of which don't work well.
And the signals that they are giving aren't that good enough. This is the only downside of joining these type of groups but I guess we deserved it because we are too lazy to trade on our own, or we are too lazy to make a research about the group that we are going to join.
Rarely the signals providing groups are created to help the individuals but most of then are created only because they have benefit from such creations. I don't think that currently anyone will willing to help others because every successful person is engaged in their own business.
To avoid all these false groups try to create your own mindset so it will help you to take good step that will be full of success. They first try to get money through trading and if they failed in trading then they use other way through providing false signals to others because if trader loss money then it will not be the headache of group's owner.
To avoid all these false groups try to create your own mindset so it will help you to take good step that will be full of success. They first try to get money through trading and if they failed in trading then they use other way through providing false signals to others because if trader loss money then it will not be the headache of group's owner.
Or they do it for free right? Yes so. If their motive is to help people in trading better and make profit so why do they charge fees and to make matters clear that they are only going after the money,
If anyone is really trying to help people by making a better profit, then you can create a video or write a book about the strategy that you are using. I'm sure that's going to help people more than providing signals, and if you are collecting money for the signal, then you are not helping them, I see that as a business, you are just selling your signal to them. Anyone can claim that they are a professional trader, and they can create a group and start providing signals.they also have different version of packages that you can register with them like their could be premium subscription, VIP, VVIP on the group. They are just traders who couldn't sustain the heat of loses and they are after hitting back on the market through subscription.
Whenever I see signal groups, I always see it as a scam, those people are out there just trying to make money and giving fake signals to people, and traders that are desperate to make money and too lazy to do research on their own will definitely look for groups like that and pay for them. Since most of the signal groups are fake, even if you think you have lost enough money and you think trading signals is the best option to win back all the money lost, don't be surprised that you are going to lose more money. 
I often get invitations to Telegaram groups, in the end the admin offers a premium signal group but I'm not interested. Because in my opinion, if they can predict signals correctly, why are they still looking for profits through members? This is what makes me uninterested, as if there is something they want to do with the aim of getting rid of us. So, if you are invited to join a singles group, it's best not to. Doing your own research and trading independently is much more satisfying.
But what makes me wonder is how come this signal group has so many members and there are testimonials from its members who say it is one hundred percent safe and proven. I wonder if there is a conspiracy with the perpetrators?
But what makes me wonder is how come this signal group has so many members and there are testimonials from its members who say it is one hundred percent safe and proven. I wonder if there is a conspiracy with the perpetrators?
My common sense is asking me why will they create such group if they know how to be pro traders already? Like why can't they keep this to themselves and keep making their money? Why are they trying to help and getting subscribers in return? Just my own common sense like I've said. What do you have to tell me?
Or they do it for free right? Yes so. If their motive is to help people in trading better and make profit so why do they charge fees and to make matters clear that they are only going after the money, they also have different version of packages that you can register with them like their could be premium subscription, VIP, VVIP on the group. They are just traders who couldn't sustain the heat of loses and they are after hitting back on the market through subscription.People running such groups tend to make people fall for their tactics by only showing the results of the trades that became successful and ignoring and removing the ones that failed so that people don't understand that what these signal providers are doing can be done by themselves without having to pay them.
This is actually my first time creating a topic in this section called trading on the forum, I have a question in mind and I look for trading section so as to fit my question, and here I am.
Are crypto signal groups for real? I have friends that are into this stuff and I don't feel convenient with it because
1. There is no proof of certificate that shows that the group owners are professional traders.
2. They might have other motives for creating such groups too.
Since this groups are label premium signal groups, they are requesting some form of a monthly subscription, a friend said that most of them are inexperienced traders who are pretending to be a pro traders.
My second friend gave me a signal group and he claimed to be good, but you know, I prefer asking questions before taking any steps, there are too many scammers in and out of crypto world.
My common sense is asking me why will they create such group if they know how to be pro traders already? Like why can't they keep this to themselves and keep making their money? Why are they trying to help and getting subscribers in return? Just my own common sense like I've said. What do you have to tell me?
Are crypto signal groups for real? I have friends that are into this stuff and I don't feel convenient with it because
1. There is no proof of certificate that shows that the group owners are professional traders.
2. They might have other motives for creating such groups too.
Since this groups are label premium signal groups, they are requesting some form of a monthly subscription, a friend said that most of them are inexperienced traders who are pretending to be a pro traders.
My second friend gave me a signal group and he claimed to be good, but you know, I prefer asking questions before taking any steps, there are too many scammers in and out of crypto world.
My common sense is asking me why will they create such group if they know how to be pro traders already? Like why can't they keep this to themselves and keep making their money? Why are they trying to help and getting subscribers in return? Just my own common sense like I've said. What do you have to tell me?
I often see this type of ads in Telegram groups where some Telegram group admins talk about premium group, in which they give signals about crypto trading. Similar activities have been seen on Discord, where you pay some amount monthly or annually and then you are added to a group. Premium WhatsApp groups where signals are provided.I personally did not join any such group because I do not trust such things.
I often wonder if they are so confident in their signals why don't they make a good profit with their signals instead of asking people for $25, $50, or $100? Often in their Telegram groups they sometimes give a trading signal to attract people. A friend of mine who joined such a group says that he earns good profit from the signals given in his group because the accuracy of the signal is very good,but it requires a big investment because the signals they give are That is between 4% to 6% percent profit, which is very difficult to do with small capital.
Since this groups are label premium signal groups, they are requesting some form of a monthly subscription, a friend said that most of them are inexperienced traders who are pretending to be a pro traders.
My common sense is asking me why will they create such group if they know how to be pro traders already? Like why can't they keep this to themselves and keep making their money? Why are they trying to help and getting subscribers in return? Just my own common sense like I've said. What do you have to tell me?
There isn’t anything new about signal groups and there schemes, it’s existed as long as trading itself and continues to gain patronage from a lot of those who are scared of loses or to do the work needed to prevent loses. Most of the users that falls within this category always find themselves looking out for these signal groups and they end up doing 2 different things for them,My common sense is asking me why will they create such group if they know how to be pro traders already? Like why can't they keep this to themselves and keep making their money? Why are they trying to help and getting subscribers in return? Just my own common sense like I've said. What do you have to tell me?
* You aid them in building there channels which they would have found very difficult to build.
* You still get to find them by subscribing for signals that might be dobbed from some place else and offer no assurances.
I really do think one who is very good at trading wouldn’t have time trying to send signals to other persons for petty cash. It doesn’t make much sense to stress over that with all you can get from trading.
This is actually my first time creating a topic in this section called trading on the forum, I have a question in mind and I look for trading section so as to fit my question, and here I am.
Are crypto signal groups for real? I have friends that are into this stuff and I don't feel convenient with it because
1. There is no proof of certificate that shows that the group owners are professional traders.
2. They might have other motives for creating such groups too.
Since this groups are label premium signal groups, they are requesting some form of a monthly subscription, a friend said that most of them are inexperienced traders who are pretending to be a pro traders.
My second friend gave me a signal group and he claimed to be good, but you know, I prefer asking questions before taking any steps, there are too many scammers in and out of crypto world.
My common sense is asking me why will they create such group if they know how to be pro traders already? Like why can't they keep this to themselves and keep making their money? Why are they trying to help and getting subscribers in return? Just my own common sense like I've said. What do you have to tell me?
As long you arent paying money then its not really bad to have some sneak peak within this groups and tending to see whether those shared information are somewhat realistic or something that you might be able to followAre crypto signal groups for real? I have friends that are into this stuff and I don't feel convenient with it because
1. There is no proof of certificate that shows that the group owners are professional traders.
2. They might have other motives for creating such groups too.
Since this groups are label premium signal groups, they are requesting some form of a monthly subscription, a friend said that most of them are inexperienced traders who are pretending to be a pro traders.
My second friend gave me a signal group and he claimed to be good, but you know, I prefer asking questions before taking any steps, there are too many scammers in and out of crypto world.
My common sense is asking me why will they create such group if they know how to be pro traders already? Like why can't they keep this to themselves and keep making their money? Why are they trying to help and getting subscribers in return? Just my own common sense like I've said. What do you have to tell me?
but if you are already that tending to pay up something just for those information then better not do it. All of those things inside would really be just that simple analysis and predictions too on which it doesnt really make sense for you to be paying up something which you could eventually get it for free. If you are really that somewhat curious then you could really risk up on paying some bucks and see for yourself whether those things are relevant or you had just waste up your money on something that you could really eventually made for yourself. This is why on the time that you do tell your friends about those groups but didnt listen
then just let them be on following those things, it is really normal that they would really be having those positive sentiments but well it would really be still depending on you whether you would really go along or not.
Just bare in mind that as long it does give out that relevant analysis or understanding about the market and its free then it isnt bad to make out some engagement and look out into it.
a friend said that most of them are inexperienced traders who are pretending to be a pro traders.
That's for sure. Many of these trading groups' signal are not real. Some may look real but they're only good at the beginning and then you'll see the red flags when you've been them for a long time.1. There is no proof of certificate that shows that the group owners are professional traders.
It's not by certification that makes a trading group reliable and trustworthy, they can present as many as possible evidence to you to show they are reliable but all can be fake, we just need to understand the needs that using a trading group has it advantages and disadvantages, we need to by ourselves verify all informations giving to us on any platform we join in other for us to be more accurate in our trading and not totally depend on what we receive from them.
My common sense is asking me why will they create such group if they know how to be pro traders already? Like why can't they keep this to themselves and keep making their money? Why are they trying to help and getting subscribers in return? Just my own common sense like I've said. What do you have to tell me?
Or they do it for free right? Yes so. If their motive is to help people in trading better and make profit so why do they charge fees and to make matters clear that they are only going after the money, they also have different version of packages that you can register with them like their could be premium subscription, VIP, VVIP on the group. They are just traders who couldn't sustain the heat of loses and they are after hitting back on the market through subscription.
We have a purpose for trading, hopefully everyone has the same purpose. Everyone wants to make money by trading.
An investor has a lot of money and tries to make more money by trading, so is he doing something wrong? I mean, no matter how much money a trader has, if the market goes up after trading and he feels he has made enough profit, he should now sell his investment, then I don't see anything wrong.
People who have specific targets fixed do not wait for a long time only they wait until their targets are met. If an investor invests in a coin with a long-term plan, he will have another plan in addition to the long-term plan, how much money he will get from this investment in this long-term. If he gets money as expected before time, then why he will leave his money unnecessarily. So I think it is a good decision to sell your investment at the right time.
An investor has a lot of money and tries to make more money by trading, so is he doing something wrong? I mean, no matter how much money a trader has, if the market goes up after trading and he feels he has made enough profit, he should now sell his investment, then I don't see anything wrong.
People who have specific targets fixed do not wait for a long time only they wait until their targets are met. If an investor invests in a coin with a long-term plan, he will have another plan in addition to the long-term plan, how much money he will get from this investment in this long-term. If he gets money as expected before time, then why he will leave his money unnecessarily. So I think it is a good decision to sell your investment at the right time.
After I read the contents of your thread and the quote below this is what I want to say.
Point, you have a healthy mind, if the quote above is always in your mind, that's a genius and professional mind.
When I first got to know and dive into the world of crypto trading, I joined several trading groups, but in the end I realized that it was all just empty talk, they never do it right and they ask to transfer some BTC for them to trade and the profit is divided by two, then I think this is not right, that's their loophole to cheat, that's when I decided to delete all groups in the name of professional trading and so on, OP, be careful with such ridiculous groups who call themselves professional trading, tell them to check themselves first if they want to cheat.
My common sense is asking me why will they create such group if they know how to be pro traders already? Like why can't they keep this to themselves and keep making their money? Why are they trying to help and getting subscribers in return? Just my own common sense like I've said. What do you have to tell me?
Point, you have a healthy mind, if the quote above is always in your mind, that's a genius and professional mind.
When I first got to know and dive into the world of crypto trading, I joined several trading groups, but in the end I realized that it was all just empty talk, they never do it right and they ask to transfer some BTC for them to trade and the profit is divided by two, then I think this is not right, that's their loophole to cheat, that's when I decided to delete all groups in the name of professional trading and so on, OP, be careful with such ridiculous groups who call themselves professional trading, tell them to check themselves first if they want to cheat.
My common sense is asking me why will they create such group if they know how to be pro traders already? Like why can't they keep this to themselves and keep making their money? Why are they trying to help and getting subscribers in return? Just my own common sense like I've said. What do you have to tell me?
This is not much of a reason that something is not legit because someone could have a certain knowledge of a thing and feels like since many are in need of it he could sell them out, a clear example is trading tutorials but for signal you know you’re in for something dubious most especially if they promise you that you will earn a lot from it. Once the profit they talk about like this is too much just avoid it because nobody loves you that much on the internet to share such a thing with you. I tried joining a few years ago. I think I paid around 5$ to join into it. To cut the story short, we who joined that crypto trading channel are receiving the signals a few minutes late, and by the time they shared it to us, the coin pumped already, so it's kind of useless. If you want to receive the signals earlier, you need to pay more. Such bullsh*t.
This your story has actually made my curiosity strong again. Most at times I wonder if this people are payed by pump and dump token developers to help them boost the token. You will see them given signals to tokens that are mostly very new, yes I know that this kind of coins are the most volatile ones and Can easily pump but I am strong curiosity that they are paid by the project teams sometimes for some of them
1. There is no proof of certificate that shows that the group owners are professional traders.
It's not by certification that makes a trading group reliable and trustworthy, they can present as many as possible evidence to you to show they are reliable but all can be fake, we just need to understand the needs that using a trading group has it advantages and disadvantages, we need to by ourselves verify all informations giving to us on any platform we join in other for us to be more accurate in our trading and not totally depend on what we receive from them.
What do you have to tell me?
Why are there traders who create trading signal groups and slowly sell signals to their members or charge fees for those who want to join their premium group? because as a trader he knows that it is easier to make money by selling his signals than using signals that are sold for his own trading, because there are still many traders who don't realize this, what they do is the same as bloggers who sell ebooks on how to make money from blogs.I have joined both free and paid ones, the results are not much different and it could be said that it is stupid to continue to be in this group because the channel owner can make thousands of dollars from fees while members still have to struggle to make a profit, many signals of which don't work well.
I have also seen people who join these groups, but do not stay long in there and deassociate themselves.
Could it be that these are the people that are unlucky to make profit from these groups?
Maybe one day everyone will test these signal groups and they will not get new inflows again.
1. There is no proof of certificate that shows that the group owners are professional traders.
Usually signal owners post each of their entries in groups and people can conclude how often they close positions with profit results. But yeah, no one can confirm whether the screenshots shared are belong to the owner or whether they're just forwarded from another signal group. Sensibly, professional traders wouldn't take money from noob traders that way.
They create the group to earn more money from people who subscribe to their signal. This will make it easier for them to earn money because they can gain the trust of the people who have joined their group.
Most of them are not professional traders because if they are professional traders, they may only get signals from other people. And we also won't know if they are real traders or just copied pastes from other people's signals. And they help customers only because they want to earn money from their customers who join the premium group.
It's better for you to continue learning to trade rather than joining that premium group. But you can also join free trading groups to get information that might be useful for you when you analyze the market. So be careful with all offers to join premium groups because not many are professional traders.
Most of them are not professional traders because if they are professional traders, they may only get signals from other people. And we also won't know if they are real traders or just copied pastes from other people's signals. And they help customers only because they want to earn money from their customers who join the premium group.
It's better for you to continue learning to trade rather than joining that premium group. But you can also join free trading groups to get information that might be useful for you when you analyze the market. So be careful with all offers to join premium groups because not many are professional traders.
Are crypto signal groups for real? I have friends that are into this stuff and I don't feel convenient with it because
Cryptographic signals work, but don’t rely on them if you want to become a successful trader. Forget about them and concentrate on learning your skills. It will help you more than signals because it will make you lazy, and signals don’t work all the time. Sometimes they malfunction and make you lose. If you use your brain, you will not lose what trading signals will make you lose sometimes, so you can see that it is not that signals don’t work. But sometimes it doesn’t favour the user, and that’s why they said it's not reliable.
My common sense is asking me why will they create such group if they know how to be pro traders already? Like why can't they keep this to themselves and keep making their money? Why are they trying to help and getting subscribers in return? Just my own common sense like I've said.
Exactly. That’s what you need to consider first before joining people who use signals. If it really works as they want, they won’t disclose it, but since they are doing this to feed their pockets, there is nothing reliable there, and if they really do it for the sake of people to benefit since they also benefit from it, they won’t ask people to pay money since they have already successfully traded.
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What do you have to tell me?
Don’t use signals to trade; it is not working, and it will not make you a successful trader but rather a lazy trader without the knowledge of trading.
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