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Topic: IF Trump via Executive Order Banned Bitcoin, what are consequences if any? (Read 647 times)

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Donald Trump will not be banned but only limited to dislike cryptocurrency.
Donald trump is the president still he does not have all the power to completely place ban on cryptocurrency because he is not the only one in charge of it,

who are the other in charge ? afaik a president is the one that can do orders because he is the one that on top  . he have the power to ban or unban cryptos but he can only do that within his countries range   .

 he dont have the ability to ban crypto all over the world  .  if cryptos such as btc were banned i think the consequences that we are going to face is we can experience a price decline  . decline time's can varry depending on the ban duration   . some countries only ban bitcoin temporarily and then they unban it again  .
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I think he inflates huis and the USDs importance in the crypto world. We don't need it he can have it. We are happy with our crypto and couldn't care for crypto while he gets upset over crypto and claims he loved the USD so much but he knows it is flawed.

Various record sheets states a positive opinion from Trump towards it and he is even aware of it. If the executive order banned bitcoin then there will be 99% chance to Up Vote him in the next elections as the leader should mostly be convening and compromising and many presidents have also raised a green flag towards LGBT which is acceptable so even crypto currency is now demanding and popularized globally.

You should never have to give the LGBT community. "the green light" they should be allowed to be as they are. In the same way, bitcoin should be allowed to be as it is. Both break basic human rights if an issue is made from it. Besides just look how well Americas war on drugs is going? They managed to increase drug trafficking instead of reducing it.
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Various record sheets states a positive opinion from Trump towards it and he is even aware of it. If the executive order banned bitcoin then there will be 99% chance to Up Vote him in the next elections as the leader should mostly be convening and compromising and many presidents have also raised a green flag towards LGBT which is acceptable so even crypto currency is now demanding and popularized globally.
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Donald Trump will not be banned but only limited to dislike cryptocurrency. Because they only want to have one real currency in the US, and are stronger than ever. The company insists it will provide a stable currency and be present on smartphones, so that adults without a bank account or those who use services outside the banking system to meet the needs of the financial system.
Donald trump is the president still he does not have all the power to completely place ban on cryptocurrency because he is not the only one in charge of it, even if he places ban on it which I doubt, it will only be restricted within his country and may never extend to other countries.

Moreover, they have assembly that would need to first discuss the issue first before they can think of that idea and you know we have so many top people and top politicians that are already in the cryptocurrency business also and many of them have their investment, and also there are still so many opportunities in cryptocurrency for countries which their financial advisers would have also seen and advise them on how to utilize such opportunity to their own advantage.
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We have read about sanctions to individuals of particular countries by the United States and their economy starts crying for help and they begin to feel the impact of such sanctions. Some few weeks back, there was tweet from the President and we saw some crashing and it was linked to the tweet of the president. Another point of note is that for the US government to issue an Executive Order there is a sure way they know that they can effect the order in a way we might not have thought of. Another effect to note is that when the government issue a sanction against a certain company, all other organisations starts cutting ties with it which means with the executive order several companies that are looking to adopt bitcoin or anything in pipeline regarding such moves will be suspended.

Summary is that the impact will be felt maybe in the short term before the market adjust to the new reality.
legendary
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It's so unlikely to happen that Trump would ban bitcoin. He stated his dislike towards bitcoin so I don't think he would give interest about it. There's a lot of issue need to be given attention than bitcoin and crypto. But I'm not saying completely no possibility. There is, it's just low...

Any country that bans bitcoin is refusing wealth that will go elsewhere. Be it India, Bolivia or America... I doubt he will do such a think, EVEN if he doesn't like it, its not like he can make it disappear either. Properly studied, he will have to reach the same conclusion others (such as Japan) did.

Rather than an unsuccessful ban, rather try regulation as best as you can. And yes, neither can achieve perfection, but one choice harms you more than the other, but yea, you are harmed either way. Bitcoin separates money from State, so you lose your chance to manipulate the money, something new in history.

Perhaps as deep impacting as when they separated church from state...

Our descendants might as well just wonder how could we be so primitive. The government has the power to make everyone poor overnight (see Venezuela). This has occurred over 40 centuries without bitcoin...

Just because (so far) you had "nice" governments that didn't decide to make you very poor every year (they only make you slightly poor so you don't rebel), doesn't mean they don't have the power to do so.

Bitcoin removes them that power, forever. Government/institutional control of money can only lead to disaster. Its only a matter of time...
Do you want to live under a time bomb? Defuse it, go bitcoin.

Nobody thinks of this until it happens, but then its too late. Yes the people of Venezuela once upon a time, had savings in the banks after decades of honest work they expected to retire and enjoy, and then it happened...

Read history (that book), you'll see this is anything but new. If/when this comes to you, you won't have time to move your fiat into bitcoin, as it happened to 99% of the people here.
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It's so unlikely to happen that Trump would ban bitcoin. He stated his dislike towards bitcoin so I don't think he would give interest about it. There's a lot of issue need to be given attention than bitcoin and crypto. But I'm not saying completely no possibility. There is, it's just low...
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I am not an expert in law but since there already are some derivatives in market approves by SEC, maybe it means that some federal judge could overrule his order as it has been with other his stupid orders?
Maybe exc. order means that noone can touch him tough.
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It would affect bitcoin and cryptocurrency big time and a huge noise since it's US but bitcoin can still function in other countries. But I don't think Trump would do that. There's a possibility but a low possibility. He just mentioned his thought on crypto before but I don't see it as a threat or as a sign of him, banning bitcoin in the US.
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Donald Trump will not be banned but only limited to dislike cryptocurrency. Because they only want to have one real currency in the US, and are stronger than ever. The company insists it will provide a stable currency and be present on smartphones, so that adults without a bank account or those who use services outside the banking system to meet the needs of the financial system.


Unfortunately, being a US Citizen, Trump could slam/ban on twitter or just make 'noises' that he wants to ban bitcoin/crypto ...just like Trump's claimed 'peace talks' making progress with

North Korea. All would be for naught, but he could cause a LOT of damage to price and perception of Bitcoin as a result. Look at climate change. A large part of the USA thinks it is

just a plot and not true, a way to stop Capitalists! Thus, again, he can't ban bitcoin IMHO, but he could cause yet another mess in the Bitcoin/Crypto markets as he has meddled

in other stuff. Anything is possible, IMHO, since the 'unlikely' election or Trump and his co-enablers with crony capitalism in the Senate as his legislative blocking force. I guess

it depends on how much push back there would be from the business community on this. In other words, is 'real money' with 'real political power' already in at what we/they assume

are cheap Bitcoin prices...compared to the future. Time will tell. But with Trump, it is always drama about something. Sad

Brad
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Donald Trump will not be banned but only limited to dislike cryptocurrency. Because they only want to have one real currency in the US, and are stronger than ever. The company insists it will provide a stable currency and be present on smartphones, so that adults without a bank account or those who use services outside the banking system to meet the needs of the financial system.
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Trump, trump and trump again. I think, what does he really want? hate bitcoin and always trying to ban bitcoin. as US president, Trump can indeed do that (banned bitcoin) but he will never be able to stop all bitcoin transactions. you can see, in some countries that prohibit bitcoin, all bitcoin transactions in that country continue as usual. I think, no major changes will occur in the world of cryptocurrency if this really happens. but i am sure if this news will have an impact on the price of bitcoin and altcoin, so i suggest you to take this opportunity to get profit for your self Grin
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Well Thinking Trump can't ban it in the US would be a mistake.
By using an executive order, he could make it illegal for all US citizens to own it and transact in it.
(He already block the crypto called petro.)
https://www.investopedia.com/news/trump-block-venezuelan-cryptocurrency-petro/

While their are a small minority that would break the law and keep using btc.
The Majority including the Major US Firms would not.
The consequences is that he probably give a few months for everyone to sell before that criminal penalties went into effect.
So there would be a massive sell off, and bitcoin price would be in the shitter, most likely below $500.
Which would cause another rash of miner bankruptcies.

While odds are 50/50 on what Trump does,

China is more likely to ban all crypto coins 1st ,
as they are coming out with their own State sponsored crypto coin, (which they will control).
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/economy/article/2111456/why-has-china-declared-war-bitcoin-and-digital-currencies
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeldelcastillo/2019/08/27/alibaba-tencent-five-others-to-recieve-first-chinese-government-cryptocurrency/#42a53c751a51

Many people believe bitcoin can not die, sorry to be the bearer of bad news,
but it most likely will die if all of the World powers turn against it.
With the production cost of creating new bitcoins in the thousands, a market price of below that is one of the scenarios that kills bitcoin.
Bitcoin lost it's ability to hide it's mining operations from government powers because of excessive power use.
Only staking crypto coins can hide well enough to evade government censorship, as they can be run on laptops behind tor or vpns.
The Power companies can not pinpoint their location like they can a bitcoin mining operation.



Wow some shit you can talk. "Thinking Trump can't ban it in the US would be a mistake." taking a superior stance are we?
"While their are a small minority that would break the law and keep using btc." really?? Banning drugs seemed to do the opposite. Banning nexer works. Piracy didn't stop either so sorry for you.

You actually are insane. There quite a few of you in this forum. You all think you experts in law but really know nothing. Ok dude let me see someone come to arrest me for crypto??? They don't have the man power. please think before typing such shit.
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This is unlikely, but Trump being Trump, anything is possible. So what would be the consequences of Trump via Executive Order

banning Bitcoin and Cryptocurrencies? A big Yawn? Ignored? A temporary dump in the price? A pump in the price?

I know it can't be killed by such, but what mischief in folks views here, would be a consequence of such an idiot attempt?

From this Tom Lee blurb:

https://news.u.today/news/fundstrats-tom-lee-suggests-bitcoin-could-be-banned-by-us-government-after-e-cigarettes

Again, just saying, Trump is all over the place, so wondering what folks think. Hopefully, this will just stay a 'thought experiment' Smiley

AGAIN...this is Trump making an 'attempt' to ban Bitcoin via Executive Order Only and the consequences to price, etc, above. Not saying he can do so.

Just the odds of him being dumb enough to try to ban Bitcoin and any backlash or fallout from the attempt. Feel free to post your views.

Take the Poll.

Brad





If this really happens, the most effected people by this orders will be the citizens of USA. There might be a slight dump in the bitcoin price but it will be temporary. Trump can only make bitcoin ban in his own country and not in the whole world. So for the rest of the world they can still use bitcoins. This is the biggest advantage of decentralized currency that the big nations have zero control over it.
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I think it will have little effect. However, it will not be a huge loss. Because there are so many web sites and organizations involved with it. It will not stop. Thousands of people and organizations are involved here.
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The consequences if trump made an executive order that bans cryptocurrency will be felt in US first all bitcoin start ups that already started in US will shut down and that will lead bitcoin price in the dip but i don't think that will affect bitcoin significantly since Europe and Asia are have most bitcoin start-ups anyway and the largest exchanges are outside of united states and besides cryptocurrency is decentralized people will just go tor or vpn networks just to buy bitcoin outside of the country. it will just like happen the banning of cryptocurrency in china the price of bitcoin dips and whales saw this opportunity to buy bitcoin at cheap price which made the bitcoin skyrocketed in epic bull run 2017.
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There are tons of business empire accepting Bitcoin in the state as means of transaction, thus having to put a ban on Bitcoin implies that such businesses will seize to exist and if not lose a large of profit within couple of weeks. Trump is a big time businessman and I doubt he would do anything if such that would jeopardize the business sector at large.
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I guess there is going to be a huge impact on the price but a short term effect. The price will get dumped by people living at the US (as usual when any negative events take place) as they will try to get out from bitcoin investment with minimum loss. This dump will cause further more dumping as people around the world will sell their investment as they will start to fear about there investment. Then whales will jump in to buy btc at lower rate, thus slowly causing the price to recover.
BTC is a global currency. The price is not defined by one single country's action.

Yes, more or less. Some of the above posters seem to overestimate America, and even if their government declared it illegal, i doubt everyone would get rid of theirs. Its like when they ordered everyone to handle their gold...

Like you said, any price fluctuation caused by such wouldn't last long. Indeed not just whales, people from other countries will see a chance to buy cheap. You think everyone would blindly follow America in something like this? Actually America would be the one following China by going this route...

Bitcoin not only is global and not defined by one single country, its not controlled by any or all of them. Even if they banded together against Bitcoin, it would not be the end of it.

The Stateless/Bankless side of Bitcoin should not be underestimated. It was designed to survive State hostility, precisely this scenario. Satoshi probably thought all countries might go together against it, forcing it underground where it would keep working for decades until the fools realized illegalization wouldn't kill it and that many people are actually keeping secretly their savings in it.
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Although renowned to be a madman in this age, I seriously doubt Trump would do something as stupid as banning Bitcoin in the States. First up, it's literally more taxes so it benefits the government and secondly, there's absolutely no harm in using it.
With that said, if he actually does it like an actual madlad, the markets would come crashing down like a house of cards and the recovery period would be 6+ months with a bearish market.
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This is unlikely, but Trump being Trump, anything is possible. So what would be the consequences of Trump via Executive Order

banning Bitcoin and Cryptocurrencies? A big Yawn? Ignored? A temporary dump in the price? A pump in the price?

I know it can't be killed by such, but what mischief in folks views here, would be a consequence of such an idiot attempt?

From this Tom Lee blurb:

day/news/fundstrats-tom-lee-suggests-bitcoin-could-be-banned-by-us-government-after-e-cigarettes]https://news.[Suspicious link removed]day/news/fundstrats-tom-lee-suggests-bitcoin-could-be-banned-by-us-government-after-e-cigarettes

Again, just saying, Trump is all over the place, so wondering what folks think. Hopefully, this will just stay a 'thought experiment' Smiley

AGAIN...this is Trump making an 'attempt' to ban Bitcoin via Executive Order Only and the consequences to price, etc, above. Not saying he can do so.

Just the odds of him being dumb enough to try to ban Bitcoin and any backlash or fallout from the attempt. Feel free to post your views.

Take the Poll.

Brad





With such moves, Trump will achieve early elections of the US and will be overthrown by the people. Bitcoin is a kind of symbol of independence, if Trump prohibits it, people will be very angry and negatively inclined
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