Like many powerful currencies in the past, USD may fall to ground too, my question is will that effect BTC value? Or is it independent of all other real world or non digital currencies of the world?
First of all i think that it's very impossible that the US dollar could fall to ground because it's the number one currency in the world, so what are the reason that it could fall ? And if it really falls bitcoins price would increase because maybe this is the chance that bitcoin will be the number one currency. 
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Here the bitcoin's price is compared to one of the global reserved and well established currency, the US dollars. But bitcoins has its own value, we just collocate the value using the USD. Remember the price determined is totally "relative" and this relative price has an inverse relation to the US dollars. As the US dollars devalues we can see the price of Bitcoin going up.
If USD falls, that just means that people (mostly banks) are selling USD for other fiat currencies. If banks start selling their USD for bitcoin though, then bitcoin will go through the roof as USD falls. So it really depends on which currency the banks are mostly investing in.
If the banking system collapses, what are you gonna do with your bitcoins even though it go through the roof as you said? Have you ever imagined you can't even spent or cash them out.
If USD is the only one to fail, people will buy cryptos to have a relatively secure place to store their wealth until they figure out what to do next or the situation stabilizes.
If all fiat fails at the same time, stores will have to start accepting cryptos ASAP, or turn to barter, run pawn shops on the side or something. People will come to an agreement one way or another.
If USD falls, that just means that people (mostly banks) are selling USD for other fiat currencies. If banks start selling their USD for bitcoin though, then bitcoin will go through the roof as USD falls. So it really depends on which currency the banks are mostly investing in.
If the banking system collapses, what are you gonna do with your bitcoins even though it go through the roof as you said? Have you ever imagined you can't even spent or cash them out.
If USD falls, that just means that people (mostly banks) are selling USD for other fiat currencies. If banks start selling their USD for bitcoin though, then bitcoin will go through the roof as USD falls. So it really depends on which currency the banks are mostly investing in.
Like many powerful currencies in the past, USD may fall to ground too,
Simple price fluctuations are acceptable but falling to the ground won't be possible that is why central banks are there to see to it this doesn't happen my question is will that effect BTC value? Or is it independent of all other real world or non digital currencies of the world?
Technically a weak or falling dollar(USD) will affect bitcoins in a way that you get more forex(dollar) for each bitcoin sold, making btc more valuable in this instance. 
Like many powerful currencies in the past, USD may fall to ground too, my question is will that effect BTC value? Or is it independent of all other real world or non digital currencies of the world?
For one, the USD will never devalue. The world will prop up the dollar because the dollar simply cannot fail; too much of the global market depends on the dollar, and all would suffer if the dollar significantly devalued. Entertaining your hypothetical however, you would see precious metals and cryptocutrencies spike to the fucking moon as people used them as safe haven assets. That wouldn't be that great though, because the global calamity that a dollar crash would cause would outstrip the warm fuzzy feeling from making 30x profit. Stock markets would crash globally, inflation would go rampant on USD pegged fiats, and we would no longer be able to repay our debt, which would eventually kill our credit rating. This would have a tremendous effect on our bond markets, not a good one
It is certainly only for you
For the rest of the world it may be very different. As was the case with previous global currencies in the past (say, the British pound), the US dollar may start to spiral down when the power of the US itself begins to vanish. And it could be interpreted in the reverse as well, i.e. as long as Uncle Sam retains his world dominance, the American dollar will remain strong. The US basically exports dollars (as government bonds, aka Treasuries), so it is vitally interested in preserving its might and power (just like any other government out there). But it may encounter strong opposition (China, Russia), so the question is essentially open
Like many powerful currencies in the past, USD may fall to ground too, my question is will that effect BTC value? Or is it independent of all other real world or non digital currencies of the world?
USD will never fall to ground usd is the most powerful currency that runs the whole world based on my knowledge and it will never conquer bitcoin and it will never replace usd into bitcoin, Bitcoin is just currency that can be use to internet as investment or anything you wanna do it will not affect bitcoin price bitcoin has it owns value. 
I don't think that usd will ever fall simply because it's a world currency and everyone everywhere accept usd. But if usd falls more and more people will invest in Bitcoin until a the world comes up with a new global currency.
There will be impact on bitcoin, but in another way a lot of people will start investing their dollars in bitcoin. On the otherside if USD falls another world currency will come up, from another country, i don`t think that in this case bitcoin will change somehow. Who cares about USD? 
Like many powerful currencies in the past, USD may fall to ground too, my question is will that effect BTC value? Or is it independent of all other real world or non digital currencies of the world?
For one, the USD will never devalue. The world will prop up the dollar because the dollar simply cannot fail; too much of the global market depends on the dollar, and all would suffer if the dollar significantly devalued. Entertaining your hypothetical however, you would see precious metals and cryptocutrencies spike to the fucking moon as people used them as safe haven assets. That wouldn't be that great though, because the global calamity that a dollar crash would cause would outstrip the warm fuzzy feeling from making 30x profit. Stock markets would crash globally, inflation would go rampant on USD pegged fiats, and we would no longer be able to repay our debt, which would eventually kill our credit rating. This would have a tremendous effect on our bond markets, not a good one.
If USD falls it may impact BTC also because we have most of the investors from US.
but i do not think that it will have any impact on bitcoin, because bitcoin has a very separate system and do not have any concern with USD, Bitcoin is a universal crypto currency, while USD s fiat and decentralize currency. 
Like many powerful currencies in the past, USD may fall to ground too, my question is will that effect BTC value? Or is it independent of all other real world or non digital currencies of the world?
USD will take a lot of effect from it's subordinate and one of it is bitcoin. And USD is very independent that's why other currencies are basing their economy to them. USD has fallen for sometime and it made a lot of countries suffer also a financial crisis. So they have big part for each countries economy including crypto.
USD falling won't have affect on bitcoin because the working of both are really different. Bitcoin is decentralised which means price is controlled by the people. While for usd is totally controlled by the government and falling of the currency wouldn't affect the government at all but only the people as things will get more expensive.
Yes you're right brother. Its far different from digital to real currency.
But on the contrary on that,
If USD falls bitcoin will increase it value that the effect. But in third world country the value of bitcoin become scrubby if USD fall. The bad thing of USD falling is the economy have an effect in different country trading USD.
This is somehow correct, maybe there will no effect in the first world country, but in the third world country there is. Like what if usd falls the exchange rate of btc (in local currency)will also falls, so there will be an effect to bitcoin enthusiasts. Hope i get myself clear.
Like many powerful currencies in the past, USD may fall to ground too, my question is will that effect BTC value? Or is it independent of all other real world or non digital currencies of the world?
USD will take a lot of effect from it's subordinate and one of it is bitcoin. And USD is very independent that's why other currencies are basing their economy to them. USD has fallen for sometime and it made a lot of countries suffer also a financial crisis. So they have big part for each countries economy including crypto.I agree. It's unlike other country's currencies that may fall without having any dent in the world economy. If the dollar fails, it drags a lotnof economies with it. Though history has been on the side of the dollar as if we look back, it's been quite resilient and has remained the main currency for the lomgest time we know. So i think the usd will still be in full control for quite a time
Like many powerful currencies in the past, USD may fall to ground too, my question is will that effect BTC value? Or is it independent of all other real world or non digital currencies of the world?
USD will take a lot of effect from it's subordinate and one of it is bitcoin. And USD is very independent that's why other currencies are basing their economy to them. USD has fallen for sometime and it made a lot of countries suffer also a financial crisis. So they have big part for each countries economy including crypto.I agree. It's unlike other country's currencies that may fall without having any dent in the world economy. If the dollar fails, it drags a lotnof economies with it. Though history has been on the side of the dollar as if we look back, it's been quite resilient and has remained the main currency for the lomgest time we know. So i think the usd will still be in full control for quite a time
I am also of the opinion that the price of bitcoin will increase more higher because many people have their money invested in dollar and some have saved their money in dollar but when the price of dollar will fall then people will search for other good currency which will be easily used for international use then they will find bitcoin for that purpose.
First tell me how it will fail.it is not computer code which will be affected by something.price of usd may fall with respect to some other currencies but will never fail. Do not misunderstand usd and bitcoin , bitcoin has become a new investment asset but it cant take place of usd as it is not stableCurrencies are certainly not computer code
But that doesn't mean that they can't fail. Even whole countries can fail, they are called "failed states". For example, Somali is considered a failed state, while Zimbabwean dollar a failed currency. A failed currency means that no one gives a fuck about it, i.e. no one is going to exchange even shit for it. If you think that the US dollar is somehow conceptually different from its Zimbabwean cousin, you may have to reconsider your point
^This.
Fiats are currently safe to hold your wealth in because people perceive as it being safe. As soon as people panic due to some sort of negative news, then fiat will collapse. The financial crisis in 2008 came close to disrupting the whole debt cycle, but they decided to bail out the banks by printing more and more fiat.
Like many powerful currencies in the past, USD may fall to ground too, my question is will that effect BTC value? Or is it independent of all other real world or non digital currencies of the world?
Well the bitcoin currency is a crypto currency and is not dependent on any economy so in the even that the US currency does fall, it will just make the bitcoins currency rise up against the US Dollar and that will be it.
I would argue exactly the opposite. Bitcoin price drops are only temporary, whilst if you see a fiat collapse, it usually will collapse alongside the country itself. Because the fiat is attached to its country a collapsed fiat currency rarely gets revived, unless it gets revalued.
As we know as long as this usd is the main currency, Although every country has a different currency but everything follows the value movement from usd.
So also on bitcoin if usd its fall value can affect bitcoin value even in my opinion with fall of usd value it will effect on bitcoin so its value can increase.
So also on bitcoin if usd its fall value can affect bitcoin value even in my opinion with fall of usd value it will effect on bitcoin so its value can increase.
Like many powerful currencies in the past, USD may fall to ground too, my question is will that effect BTC value? Or is it independent of all other real world or non digital currencies of the world?
USD will take a lot of effect from it's subordinate and one of it is bitcoin. And USD is very independent that's why other currencies are basing their economy to them. USD has fallen for sometime and it made a lot of countries suffer also a financial crisis. So they have big part for each countries economy including crypto. 
Definitely, if united states of American dollars [ USD] fall is going to affect bitcoin and others crytocurrency because we easily know the value of bitcoin through USD. USD as world major currency has a great impact on any others money be it fiat or crytocurrencies.
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