Topic: If we didnt had idiots blocking segwit we would be sittting on 4 figures by now - page 5. (Read 7257 times)

Lmao this is the ultimate reasoning that /r/btc nutjobs can reach. And then when they claim blockstream and segwit is a "bankster trojan horse" then that's perfectly fine to say and it's not conspiracy theory nonsense. Always the same fucking bullshit. When /r/btc says something like that it's legitimate and not a conspiracy.

Get real, the fact people that know better than you all agree on segwit needing to be activated before a blocksize increase doesn't mean that they are all together against you and are all bought by "the banks". In fact, if someone is working for banks, then that's Roger Ver and the rest of people wanting to raise the block size to make the network less decentralized by making running nodes way difficult for common people, and by not activating segwit which would give us endless possibilities to make bitcoin more anonymous. But you keep thinking you are a smartass and AA and the rest are all compromised by the banks lmao.

I think he is asking you to engage your brain, understand the situation, and make a decision for yourself instead of making an appeal to authority.  But I suppose that might be difficult if you don't have a strong background in CS, economics and game theory.

Adding a 1mb transaction size limit would fix the only legitimate issue I have heard about and would allow blocks to scale.  Segwit is too big of a change to take lightly.  It should be deployed on an alt coin first to allow testing.  When it does come to bitcoin, it should be done as a hard fork so as not to leave nodes on the network who think they are fully validating when they are actually not.  Or, the software could be changed to allow you to delete just the witness data as an alternative to pruning entire blocks, which is already supported.  There is no reason you couldn't store the transaction chain without the witness data today.  The only thing you gain with segwit is the ability to check block hashes after you delete witness data.

Ya but 1000 isn't going to happen this month. Look at the huge resistance from the tiny raise we had these past few days! I wouldn't count on it until segwit is in full force.

Listen to the "authority". Obey your master. They are THE EXPERTS THEY KNOW BETTER. Get real, you're so oblivious. I'm educated enough to make my own decisions and apparently I have chosen to vote against SegWit in its current form. AA is blowing bubbles out of his mouth when he says how stupid it is to raise the blocksize before activating segwit. Only uneducated people buy his reasoning. So what was the main argument here? That bigger blocks would allow DOS attacks on full nodes because then TXs could somehow have more signatures that need to be checked? Okey then! Let's have a fix JUST FOR THAT AND NOTHING ELSE. That I would welcome very much. But why oh why don't they offer just this one fix without their complete and utter mess aka SegWit? Because SegWit is evil. AA could be talking what he is told to, we don't know. That's why one should not just listen to any "expert" and take what they are saying as the ultimate truth. BTW nodes could just drop the blocks that take too much time to verify. If I can think of a fix to the alleged DOS vulnerability regarding bigger blocks then those experts should be able to come up with a solution without any question. I think AA is fudding the shit out of the technically inept bitcoiners to promote SegWit trojan horse.

BU cannot make Bitcoin mainstream with just bigger blocks, you cannot hardfork from 1mb to 1 gig   The internet cannot even handle 1 gig blocks, so BU dev aint skilled enough for that, BU is just a short-term fix.

Claiming Segwitt is ugly and woud cripple is false it fits for BU better.

Bitcoin needs extra layers to make it mainstream, Segwit will fulfill that job.

Okay so let me get this right. What you are saying is, we should go against the opinion of experts such as Andreas Antonopoulos, which tell us how stupid it is to raise the blocksize before activating segwit, and instead listen to your opinion, or Roger Ver's opinion, because you somehow know better? Is this a fucking joke?
Nobody with a brain and invested money in Bitcoin is going to value some no nobodies opinion above Andreas and Core dev's. Get real.

BU can be capped at any size by miners and nodes
Segwit is ugly and would cripple range protocol forever

I agree but BU is not better than Segwit.

This!

This is becoming more interesting from day to day, opinions are divided and what will be with some alt that are in segwit are they gonna increase price get more support i mean on litecoin and viacoin. Will segwit be activate sooner on some altcoin more then on bitcoin, and most important is it good thing at the end?

Let me put this really simple for you.

I am against SegWit, not necessarily pro Bitcoin Unlimited. It just happens that BU has taken philosophically the correct approach to the problem.

The core should separate their enhancements into small packages and present each one to the community separately not in a foul umbrella package known as SegWit. Also I am against ugly hacks. The scaling fix should be simple and elegant aka just increasing the maximum block size.

You keep ignoring how Andreas Antonopoulos is on our side. Answer: Are you going to call Andreas Antonopoulos a bankster? A Core shill? A blockstreamer? What are you call him now that Andreas agrees with Core's roadmap? Or you will keep ignoring the fact that the best experts on the field are all supporting Core's roadmap? What's your call on this? Is Roger Ver better than all of them you say?

DAFAR ROFL more like JAFFAR  go back to your den

Actually this reply was pretty pathetic lmao, he actually posted a reply

Sorry to burst your bubble but that's a really pathetic reply. I hope you at least get paid for your bullshit you little core pawn.

The Great Debate | Lombroso/Petrov/Potter/Ver hosted by Whalepool.io


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Almost 5 days in. 15 days to go. 

Roger Ver just said on ts.whalepool.io that he is "Segwit agnostic" and that if there was 6% remaining to activate segwit he would switch his pool.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5i7sut/roger_ver_just_said_on_tswhalepoolio_that_he_is/