If We quit, how do we Build our Experience

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Quote from: Ojima-ojo on October 30, 2024, 03:14:59 PM

Worried about the constant warning to quite gambling when we face loses constantly, and for that reason a lot have been misconcepted because with quiting we miss exhibiting and practicing the lessons learned from our loses, some even go as far as saying we take a brake from gambling each time we win big.

But my question is, how can we build experience if we continue to be so proactively prepared to quite each point in time?

How can we beat combine quiting to avoid addictions and playing to maximizing our experience in gambling if the aim is to build skills and make more winnings.

Bringing this senario to my trading experience, when I felt like quiting trading at some point due to excessive loses but later encouraged myself, if it was gonna make sense losing those funds and quiting trading as at the time, but rather, I work on ways to improving myself to ge better results and which have helped me to become better version of me, so this same thing is applied here when it comes to gambling, but however gambling isn't meant for everyone ,if you find out over a period of time you can't improve and it isn’t working out for you after trying out so many ways in getting a better result, then you can think about quiting. It depends on individuals and views.

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Quote from: hahay on November 01, 2024, 12:42:44 PM

I think it depends on whether you stop for a break, or stop to leave gambling and not to return. If you stop just for a break, then it can still be for you to learn it to gain skills and experience. Because after all, with you being able to have control to stop just for a break after getting a big win and or after getting a losing streak. Basically it has also made you have good experience andskills to manage your finances and betting style.

But, if the goal is to stop gambling and not to return again, then the experience and skills you have will only be a story for yourself and have nothing to do with the experience and skills that must be developed in gambling.

when completely quitting gambling, it will still be an experience for the gambler. indeed there will be no continuation, but at least they already have experience in gambling. regardless of whether they have won or suffered more losses during gambling.
everything we do must provide us with experience if we want to learn it. however, experience is also an important thing that gamblers must have in order to be able to manage bets well.

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I think it depends on whether you stop for a break, or stop to leave gambling and not to return. If you stop just for a break, then it can still be for you to learn it to gain skills and experience. Because after all, with you being able to have control to stop just for a break after getting a big win and or after getting a losing streak. Basically it has also made you have good experience andskills to manage your finances and betting style.

But, if the goal is to stop gambling and not to return again, then the experience and skills you have will only be a story for yourself and have nothing to do with the experience and skills that must be developed in gambling.

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Quote from: vs2014 on November 01, 2024, 11:32:39 AM

A gambler will gain experience if he can observe his history after losing and winning. But all these experiences will be useless because you are gambling with money, which is why experience will not be created, but if you waste resources to gamble, then there will be experience. If you find yourself slowly becoming addicted to gambling and it is negatively affecting every aspect of your life then you should give it a break for some time. You should always have a look at the losing money account so you can easily discard.

must you waste resources before you get experiences?, of course no. Wasting resources is a testimony of addiction and the damage has been done, so according to your description of gaining experience, only an addicted gambler gains experience and it is wrong to my sense of judgement. As long as you're into gambling, your engagements whether consistently or occasionally builds your experience and It might interest you that not everybody wants to build such serious experience that comes with excessive funds wastage, some are comfortable with a shallow involvement in gambling because they see gambling as a fun activity and not to be overdone or viewed as a source of income and don't give it enough dedication to building much experience in it.

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Quote from: Ojima-ojo on October 30, 2024, 03:14:59 PM

How can we beat combine quiting to avoid addictions and playing to maximizing our experience in gambling if the aim is to build skills and make more winnings.

Only with limits... you can have "Stop on Win & Stop on Loss" limits, and if you can stick to them you will have a nice & long gambling experience. Of course, sometimes you will have to add more money to your balance, entertainment costs money. But there is also a chance that you will have more luck and better days, then you won't have to add anything... It's mostly about luck, it's good to have skills and experience, but without luck you will not make more profit.

The thing is that gambling is full of ups & downs, and in many cases, those "downs" can last a long time. In those moments we can get on fire and forget to play smart, it's when we forget or ignore the "limits we have". But if you can play with "cool head" and watch those limits most of the time maybe you will be able to last long with your balance.

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Quote from: Tungbulu on October 31, 2024, 11:26:18 PM

Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 31, 2024, 06:59:01 AM

Secondly, no matter how you try to build your strategy in gambling to prevent yourself from losing next time, it might not still work because the winning we expect from gambling is base luck and not certain.

I find this to be true and observe this just right after I’ve won a bet, if I attempt to immediately play again without first leaving, I end up losing the next bet, and if I continue to play, I might just end up losing back everything I’ve won. Winning and losing is indeed really not up to us or how skilled we are, it’s just luck and the fact one is lucky now doesn’t mean you’ll be lucky on the next round or the one after that. It’ll be absolutely wrong to assume that you can be lucky and win all the time and this is the mistake most of we gamblers often end up making, and this could for sure have devastating consequences on the gambler as this could influence his attitude towards gambling and when this happens, he ends up losing more than expected.

Some persons uses the happiness of their first win to continue gambling non stop until they still lose what they have luckily won. If a player won or lose more than usual, it's wise to take a brake at least for that day while reflecting on how to become better when next they go gambling.

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A gambler will gain experience if he can observe his history after losing and winning. But all these experiences will be useless because you are gambling with money, which is why experience will not be created, but if you waste resources to gamble, then there will be experience. If you find yourself slowly becoming addicted to gambling and it is negatively affecting every aspect of your life then you should give it a break for some time. You should always have a look at the losing money account so you can easily discard.

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That's difficult.

If you play more, you get addicted. If you play more, you are in jeopardy of losing more. That's how gambling works and it never failed. Why? Because they won't still be in business if they are not making money out of all the gamblers which means a lot of players are losing.
That's the experience that you can get, learning that we will just always lose if we keep on playing more. Rests are good opportunities to think about what we have been through and to think twice about whether we need to deposit more or stop. We learn from our mistakes too and I think becoming emotional like revenge and greed will come to us at one point in our gambling activity and we should learn to control it.

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on November 01, 2024, 06:37:11 AM

I see the OP's post as something that we sometimes train ourselves with by frequent use, mistakenly presenting as a mandatory action. But I do not agree at all with the concept that gambling can make you an experienced player. A newbie who came to the casino yesterday and understood the rules is the same as someone who sits around the clock playing. Moreover, a beginner can win faster than someone who spends a long time coming up with his "strategy."
OP, it is correct to train skills (in other activities), but it is not correct to present the habit of gambling as a way to earn money, and even more so as a professional action.

Exactly, with the opinion that you have conveyed, then maybe I can conclude that the idea of a professional in an activity that is probabilistic will never seem reasonable, because like the example you have given that a novice gambler who has just arrived and understands the rules of the game can be said to be the same as a gambler who already has high flying hours in the casino as a player, and if we talk about skills then maybe yes of course there is a difference there, but what is certain is that I think if we talk about someone's ability to win more in gambling, it also won't seem reasonable because after all gambling is probabilistic.

This means that maybe I can say that in terms of skills there may indeed be a difference between new gamblers and old gamblers, but in terms of the opportunity to win they have the same chance.

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I see the OP's post as something that we sometimes train ourselves with by frequent use, mistakenly presenting as a mandatory action. But I do not agree at all with the concept that gambling can make you an experienced player. A newbie who came to the casino yesterday and understood the rules is the same as someone who sits around the clock playing. Moreover, a beginner can win faster than someone who spends a long time coming up with his "strategy."
OP, it is correct to train skills (in other activities), but it is not correct to present the habit of gambling as a way to earn money, and even more so as a professional action.

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Quote from: Tungbulu on October 31, 2024, 11:26:18 PM

Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 31, 2024, 06:59:01 AM

Secondly, no matter how you try to build your strategy in gambling to prevent yourself from losing next time, it might not still work because the winning we expect from gambling is base luck and not certain.

I find this to be true and observe this just right after I’ve won a bet, if I attempt to immediately play again without first leaving, I end up losing the next bet, and if I continue to play, I might just end up losing back everything I’ve won. Winning and losing is indeed really not up to us or how skilled we are, it’s just luck and the fact one is lucky now doesn’t mean you’ll be lucky on the next round or the one after that. It’ll be absolutely wrong to assume that you can be lucky and win all the time and this is the mistake most of we gamblers often end up making, and this could for sure have devastating consequences on the gambler as this could influence his attitude towards gambling and when this happens, he ends up losing more than expected.

Whatever it takes—even nonstop gambling for the sake of experience—won’t change the reality that we’re still just relying on luck. So, taking a break isn’t a bad call; in fact, it’s good for us. Constant gambling can mess with your mind, especially when you’re on a losing streak. It’s way better to step back and relax so you can think more clearly.

A lot of gamblers, after taking a break, come back with a different approach—probably because they’ve cleared their minds and feel less pressured. Having a healthy mind creates good decision-making and possibly attracts luck.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 31, 2024, 06:59:01 AM

Secondly, no matter how you try to build your strategy in gambling to prevent yourself from losing next time, it might not still work because the winning we expect from gambling is base luck and not certain.

I find this to be true and observe this just right after I’ve won a bet, if I attempt to immediately play again without first leaving, I end up losing the next bet, and if I continue to play, I might just end up losing back everything I’ve won. Winning and losing is indeed really not up to us or how skilled we are, it’s just luck and the fact one is lucky now doesn’t mean you’ll be lucky on the next round or the one after that. It’ll be absolutely wrong to assume that you can be lucky and win all the time and this is the mistake most of we gamblers often end up making, and this could for sure have devastating consequences on the gambler as this could influence his attitude towards gambling and when this happens, he ends up losing more than expected.

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Quote from: Ojima-ojo on October 30, 2024, 03:14:59 PM

Worried about the constant warning to quite gambling when we face loses constantly, and for that reason a lot have been misconcepted because with quiting we miss exhibiting and practicing the lessons learned from our loses, some even go as far as saying we take a brake from gambling each time we win big.

But my question is, how can we build experience if we continue to be so proactively prepared to quite each point in time?

How can we beat combine quiting to avoid addictions and playing to maximizing our experience in gambling if the aim is to build skills and make more winnings.

Are you talking about trading or gambling because the whole post doesn't make much sense to be honest. There is no such thing as gaining experience by gambling. Gambling is all about luck and little about skills. No matter how much you gamble and how much experience you earn, in the long run you are bound to lose if not everything due to house advantage of the casino. You cant build ''skill and make more winning'' by gambling a lot. Maybe with some table games, but do you really think you can change your luck in slots by gaining experience? No, you can't.

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Quote from: Ojima-ojo on October 30, 2024, 03:14:59 PM

Worried about the constant warning to quite gambling when we face loses constantly, and for that reason a lot have been misconcepted because with quiting we miss exhibiting and practicing the lessons learned from our loses, some even go as far as saying we take a brake from gambling each time we win big.

But my question is, how can we build experience if we continue to be so proactively prepared to quite each point in time?

How can we beat combine quiting to avoid addictions and playing to maximizing our experience in gambling if the aim is to build skills and make more winnings.

The most important point to remember is that gambling should be seen as fun. So if someone is playing for fun and starts losing a lot and this makes them very angry, then they should stop playing for a while. And if someone is playing a lot to gain experience, then they are playing with the goal of making constant profits, and this way of thinking can lead to addiction and bankruptcy. For example, a person who plays slots does not need to have experience. A person who bets on sports also does not need to bet every day for many months to gain experience.

It is an undeniable fact that people should know how to stop playing for a while, because this greatly helps the person to have control over themselves. When someone can say to themselves today: "Tomorrow I will not play, I will not play for 1 month" and they can stick to it, then that person is not addicted. But when a person says they're going to stop playing for a week and the next day they're playing, then that person has a gambling problem.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on October 31, 2024, 06:23:49 PM

Quote from: DaNNy001 on October 31, 2024, 04:26:12 PM

I don't think we build our experience by losing more... quitting gambling when it's damaging your mental health is actually the best decision you can make, if you seek to build experience in gambling I don't think there's an end to that because you will continue making new mistakes.. personally, I don't need to build any sort of experience from gambling Because you can't make it a source of income, there's no point in waiting to keep losing.. quitting is hard but sometimes that's what is necessary...

One doesn't necessarily have to quit gambling in its totality, or will not arrive at that stage where they either quit or something more terrible happens if such person has been following the rules of gambling from day one.
And like you rightly said, experience is not needed since gambling is not to be used as a source of income.

One can build experiences in activities like trading, and it will end up helping them because trading is a well popular and legimtately recognized source of income, in activities like this, the more experienced a trader is, the more complex trader they become, guiding them into a life of almost zero loses as trader..
Meanwhile, this is completely impossible or improper when it's gambling we are talking about.

Do you also know that in trading even though you gained the experience you can still lose in totality making you swiping your trading accounts. To me I will say almost everything we are doing needs experience even when we say gambling doesn't need experience but yet we kept saying there are strategies that works, and don't you think that those strategies are combination of experience that boost up to the experience if I may ask you?

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Quote from: Ojima-ojo on October 30, 2024, 03:14:59 PM

Worried about the constant warning to quite gambling when we face loses constantly, and for that reason a lot have been misconcepted because with quiting we miss exhibiting and practicing the lessons learned from our loses, some even go as far as saying we take a brake from gambling each time we win big.

I think they aren't directly saying you should quit gambling but if you notice yourself no longer acting normal or you felt that people are complaining of you so much then it's good to have a break for sometimes before forging ahead. What happens is that before you would get that level of constant asking by people to quit then you must have gained lot of experience, experience doesn't mean you must sink and drown into gambling to have experience, at least you spending 1-2 year in gambling is enough for you to gain experience. Do not compromised your overall well-being to gambling at least you should always check yourself and see if you aren't doing the right thing at right or doing the right thing at the wrong time.

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Quote from: DaNNy001 on October 31, 2024, 04:26:12 PM

I don't think we build our experience by losing more... quitting gambling when it's damaging your mental health is actually the best decision you can make, if you seek to build experience in gambling I don't think there's an end to that because you will continue making new mistakes.. personally, I don't need to build any sort of experience from gambling Because you can't make it a source of income, there's no point in waiting to keep losing.. quitting is hard but sometimes that's what is necessary...

One doesn't necessarily have to quit gambling in its totality, or will not arrive at that stage where they either quit or something more terrible happens if such person has been following the rules of gambling from day one.
And like you rightly said, experience is not needed since gambling is not to be used as a source of income.

One can build experiences in activities like trading, and it will end up helping them because trading is a well popular and legimtately recognized source of income, in activities like this, the more experienced a trader is, the more complex trader they become, guiding them into a life of almost zero loses as trader..
Meanwhile, this is completely impossible or improper when it's gambling we are talking about.

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Quote from: Ojima-ojo on October 30, 2024, 03:14:59 PM

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But my question is, how can we build experience if we continue to be so proactively prepared to quite each point in time?

How can we beat combine quiting to avoid addictions and playing to maximizing our experience in gambling if the aim is to build skills and make more winnings.

Gambling and skill are concepts when are mutually excluded from each other in the most of the cases, so let us assume you are talking about getting better at Sportbetting predictions and games like Irl poker (which has actual strategy and deceit applied to it).
The equilibrium and where you are supposed to draw the line between your time to get better and your time off gambling for you not to get addicted will be conditioned by the money you have available for gambling, thats it. It is pretty easy if you take that only conditional.

People view gambling addiction because it leads to financial ruin and those who want become better at poker or at sport betting do so because they want more money in the shortest time possible, so in my opinion, if you have enough spare money for you to fuel your experience for an specific period of time, then do it; otherwise do not and take a rest from your gambling activities.

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Quote from: Zigabel on October 31, 2024, 02:52:42 PM

You don't have to be at the casino always to get experienced, I know it doesn't sound like the regular thing of been consistent with something so you get experienced, firstly what influences your picks should be your point of experience and not the gambling itself, gain more experience at analysis ~~~

Not really sure what you mean exactly. However, I agree that to get the experience, you don't always need to do it yourself. You can get the experience from other people's story. This is also important, so we can have preventive ways if it happens with us in the future. Sure, something like learning and analyzing will be important, too. This will help us to avoid bad things in our gambling. This make us to have a habit of always being careful.

Quote from: Zigabel on October 31, 2024, 02:52:42 PM

Just like trading, always have something to look out for before you place a bet, that will allow you more time to me more logical than emotional ~~~

I guess you are talking about betting, right?
Sure, it is needed to have analysis before we place our bet. For example in football betting. At least, we analyze the stats of the teams, the players condition, and where the match to take place.

Quote from: Zigabel on October 31, 2024, 02:52:42 PM

Another should be that you should temporarily quit when you suffer series of losses, so you have time to sit back and review your ~~trading~~ habit of which if you don't, most definitely you will keep suffering such over and over again.

Indeed. Taking a rest for a while is a good decision. Besides to let us reviewing our gambling, this may reduce emotion and restore our fresh mind. If we keep playing, it may raise our emotion, especially if we get losses in series. Cheesy

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I don't think we build our experience by losing more... quitting gambling when it's damaging your mental health is actually the best decision you can make, if you seek to build experience in gambling I don't think there's an end to that because you will continue making new mistakes.. personally, I don't need to build any sort of experience from gambling Because you can't make it a source of income, there's no point in waiting to keep losing.. quitting is hard but sometimes that's what is necessary...

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