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Quote from: Monnt on April 05, 2017, 08:54:33 AM

1% is not that big of a profit monthly to look for risky investments. Here in my country banks gives 13% return and I trust banks more than any bitcoin business out there, bitcoin World had so many scams, banks collapsed before but your savings are as good as anywhere it would be for banks.

If you are looking for 1% low reward with low risk your best bet is banks. If your country is not giving you 1% a month than you can look for trading bots like gunbot and CAT.

Hi Monnt,

Depends what are you looking for ... if you want to trade in Bitcoin world or in Real world. Sometimes the real world is more dangerous than BTC world, because in real world are rules what are broken because of rich people interests and we cannot appeal them in BTC world if is happening cannot regret because are not rules only instincts sometimes morally sometimes not ... is more dangerous to make business after rules and them to be changed in your unfavour ... is only my opinion...

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1% is not that big of a profit monthly to look for risky investments. Here in my country banks gives 13% return and I trust banks more than any bitcoin business out there, bitcoin World had so many scams, banks collapsed before but your savings are as good as anywhere it would be for banks.

If you are looking for 1% low reward with low risk your best bet is banks. If your country is not giving you 1% a month than you can look for trading bots like gunbot and CAT.

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Quote from: bussybuddy on April 05, 2017, 02:18:31 AM

Let's leave to Bitcoin what is for it and to enjoy it .

I consider Bitcoin as one of the greatest inventions of the mankind like wheel and the Internet. And I have a lot of trust in it, I even launched a bitcoin based start-up which contributes to the value of bitcoin and of the whole bitcoin community.

In Bitcoin we trust Cool

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Quote from: TOPBTCCASINOS on April 04, 2017, 08:59:45 AM

www.crypto-games.com, then when betking.io reopens, I would put 50% in there Cheesy

Betking in house investment will reopen? Where did u get this from?

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Quote from: tiptopfund on April 05, 2017, 01:56:32 AM

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Quote from: tiptopfund on April 04, 2017, 02:01:57 AM

When one holds money and doesn't invest it he actually loses the money

That is not an accurate statement. When one doesn't invest he doesn't lose the money but he does lose the opportunity to make more money.

What I was referring to was the inflation. For the last 27 years $US lost 88% of its value and during the next 17 years it will lose 65% more (https://smartasset.com/investing/inflation-calculator). Thus, $1M in 1990 will be worth just $349K in 2034. The most of other currencies depend on dollar and lose their value even faster. Therefore, if we don't invest we lose.

Quote from: johnsmithx on April 04, 2017, 02:39:22 PM

On top of that in case of BTC (which is what this topic is about) your statement doesn't fit at all. Everybody here is talking about investing in this or that, but having BTC is already an investment. You had money, you invested it in BTC and now you have BTC which may increase in value or decrease, just like any other investment. That's what you all somehow forgot.
If you invested in BTC a year ago the value of your BTC has now nearly tripled. And long-term it will keep going up, there is no question about it. Now if this is somehow not enough for you, if you want more and take this already excellent-performing investment and re-invest it further then you should realize that greed is one of the most common causes why people lose their investments and end up with nothing.

While BTC has shown incredible increase in value recently it doesn't guarantee us anything: past performance does not guarantee future results. I mean, are you ready to sell all your assets and buy BTC now? I think the most people would hesitate and this is exactly my point: diversify your investments or don't put all your eggs in one basket.

Hi tiptopfund,

Bitcoin was created with a reason not to generate loss, its value is going up and down but never to 0(zero) ... most of alternative coins owners like Bitcoin are thinking Bitcoin will disappear and their e-coin will be the leader market ... who was created and developed the Bitcoin is more clever than who is Cloning Bitcoin and rename it ...

Let's leave to Bitcoin what is for it and to enjoy it ... and if we can to support the others Bitcoin alternatives to not disappear, treat Bitcoin like $ as forte currency and the Bitcoin Alternatives like the rest of currencies... something like will never teach the eggs(BTC alternatives) how to fly the chicken(BTC) ...

Kind Regards,
Alex

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Quote from: johnsmithx on April 04, 2017, 02:39:22 PM

Quote from: tiptopfund on April 04, 2017, 02:01:57 AM

When one holds money and doesn't invest it he actually loses the money

That is not an accurate statement. When one doesn't invest he doesn't lose the money but he does lose the opportunity to make more money.

What I was referring to was the inflation. For the last 27 years $US lost 88% of its value and during the next 17 years it will lose 65% more (https://smartasset.com/investing/inflation-calculator). Thus, $1M in 1990 will be worth just $349K in 2034. The most of other currencies depend on dollar and lose their value even faster. Therefore, if we don't invest we lose.

Quote from: johnsmithx on April 04, 2017, 02:39:22 PM

On top of that in case of BTC (which is what this topic is about) your statement doesn't fit at all. Everybody here is talking about investing in this or that, but having BTC is already an investment. You had money, you invested it in BTC and now you have BTC which may increase in value or decrease, just like any other investment. That's what you all somehow forgot.
If you invested in BTC a year ago the value of your BTC has now nearly tripled. And long-term it will keep going up, there is no question about it. Now if this is somehow not enough for you, if you want more and take this already excellent-performing investment and re-invest it further then you should realize that greed is one of the most common causes why people lose their investments and end up with nothing.

While BTC has shown incredible increase in value recently it doesn't guarantee us anything: past performance does not guarantee future results. I mean, are you ready to sell all your assets and buy BTC now? I think the most people would hesitate and this is exactly my point: diversify your investments or don't put all your eggs in one basket.

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Hello, recently i found out freebitco.in is offering 4% per annum

Other than cloud hash mining, is there any good investment for dividends?

Thanks!

I think invest in some casino or Dice site would be a good choice.

or if you want something risk-free, you can just deposit to Freebitco.in to earn the interests

This is not risk free, there are several risk that those that have tried that route knows like, the casino may disappear with your coins, this can be avoided by choosing a more established casino but then the profits are probably going to be lower also there is the chance a whale wins big and you will have losses that will be very difficult to recover.

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Quote from: tiptopfund on April 04, 2017, 02:01:57 AM

When one holds money and doesn't invest it he actually loses the money

That is not an accurate statement. When one doesn't invest he doesn't lose the money but he does lose the opportunity to make more money. However he also loses the opportunity to lose what he already has. So he gives up a possible future benefit but also a possible future risk of losing.

On top of that in case of BTC (which is what this topic is about) your statement doesn't fit at all. Everybody here is talking about investing in this or that, but having BTC is already an investment. You had money, you invested it in BTC and now you have BTC which may increase in value or decrease, just like any other investment. That's what you all somehow forgot.

If you invested in BTC a year ago the value of your BTC has now nearly tripled. And long-term it will keep going up, there is no question about it. Now if this is somehow not enough for you, if you want more and take this already excellent-performing investment and re-invest it further then you should realize that greed is one of the most common causes why people lose their investments and end up with nothing.

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Quote from: iv4n on April 04, 2017, 04:45:42 AM

When you say "when gambling you have nothing in hands, just some expectations based on your interpretation of some results in the past." you are wrong, you have chips in your hand, and chips like stocks can be exchanged for cash in any time.

No, you don't have chips in hands after you bet, i.e. "invested". Your bet is irrevocable, you either win or lose. A stock is an asset that has value, it earns you dividends, and lets participate in the company's life (if you have a major stake).

Quote from: iv4n on April 04, 2017, 04:45:42 AM

You are also talking about "win-win" situation, my first opinion is that is a scam! I live in the world where there is no win-win situation, in that case all people would be rich, but look outside your window. Every investment is a gambling in a first place, because there is no risk free investment, at least not if you don`t have some scheme and you know the outcome, but that is cheating.

OK, you bought shares of Apple 20 years ago and by 2017 you multiplied your capital hundred times. Apple won, you won, even their competitors won because Apple significantly developed the market. This is what I call win-win situation and a lot of people benefit from them. Look at Uber and WhatsApp start-ups, they created products we use and they made tons of money out of it. Win Win

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Quote from: digaran on March 20, 2017, 02:22:20 AM

Why would you want to invest and wait a month to earn profit? just hold for a week or so and when price went up 10% give or take, sell and wait for price to drop again or when you see prices average around $1000-1100 try to inject new cash and buy more to again sell at higher prices in matter of 2 weeks you could then profit ten folds.

You make bitcoin trading sound like it's easier than walking my dog. I've tried it, but trading without your emotions influencing every decision you make is a near-impossible task for me.

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Quote from: TOPBTCCASINOS on April 04, 2017, 08:59:45 AM

www.crypto-games.com, then when betking.io reopens, I would put 50% in there Cheesy

Crypto-Games seems to be having technical issues recently. When I testes the site there is error:

"Service Unavailable

HTTP Error 503. The service is unavailable."

BetKing is in early beta stage, it might be long time when the this platform will reach full potential and previous capacity.
I suggest you find some good gambling platforms to invest, preferably with low commission rate - less than 30%.

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Quote from: iv4n on April 04, 2017, 04:45:42 AM

Quote from: tiptopfund on April 04, 2017, 03:36:30 AM

Iv4n, when gambling you have nothing in hands, just some expectations based on your interpretation of some results in the past. When investing you have a share, i.e. an asset that has real value and can be exchanged for cash anytime.

Next, gambling is a Zero-Sum Game meaning that the amount of your gain is balanced by the amount of someone's loss. On the contrary, investing is a Positive-Sum situation, or like they say 'win-win', because companies create value over time and everyone wins. Thus, the essence of investing is opposite to gambling.

When you say "when gambling you have nothing in hands, just some expectations based on your interpretation of some results in the past." you are wrong, you have chips in your hand, and chips like stocks can be exchanged for cash in any time. -snip-

There is major difference between stocks and casino chips.

It is true that for that brief moment in time you have chips and then you exchange it to buy ability to play the game.
But when you have chips in hand you can either win or lose, (or refuse to play, but that is very rare and unrealistic situation) there is no real option to avert risk.
With stocks you can sell some to recover during crash or keep them when you expect a recovery.

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Quote from: iv4n on April 04, 2017, 04:45:42 AM

Quote from: tiptopfund on April 04, 2017, 03:36:30 AM

Iv4n, when gambling you have nothing in hands, just some expectations based on your interpretation of some results in the past. When investing you have a share, i.e. an asset that has real value and can be exchanged for cash anytime.

Next, gambling is a Zero-Sum Game meaning that the amount of your gain is balanced by the amount of someone's loss. On the contrary, investing is a Positive-Sum situation, or like they say 'win-win', because companies create value over time and everyone wins. Thus, the essence of investing is opposite to gambling.

When you say "when gambling you have nothing in hands, just some expectations based on your interpretation of some results in the past." you are wrong, you have chips in your hand, and chips like stocks can be exchanged for cash in any time. Expectations and interpretations are descriptions of the man's character, you have that in stock markets, on your work, in gambling or in life, so that has nothing with the fact that you need to have money first and depending from amount you have you need to consider where to invest/put that money to make some profit.
You are also talking about "win-win" situation, my first opinion is that is a scam! I live in the world where there is no win-win situation, in that case all people would be rich, but look outside your window. Every investment is a gambling in a first place, because there is no risk free investment, at least not if you don`t have some scheme and you know the outcome, but that is cheating.

Bussybuddy you can consider it how ever do you like, but the facts are facts. You give and expect something in return, its an investment. You apply different strategies for different games and bankrolls, you need to evaluate everything before you run into something no matter is it poker or some company.

Hi iv4n,

I am here to comment and as well to appreciate anyone if I am liking any comment. The idea is to be constructive not to bomb people if they do not agree my opinion ... what I understood or misunderstood from your comments is you are thinking gambling is more good as investment... is your opinion I cannot change it... but I am thinking gambling is more risky than investment in shares, digital assets or even physical assets...

I am respecting your opinion...

All the best to everyone,
Alex

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Quote from: tiptopfund on April 04, 2017, 03:36:30 AM

Iv4n, when gambling you have nothing in hands, just some expectations based on your interpretation of some results in the past. When investing you have a share, i.e. an asset that has real value and can be exchanged for cash anytime.

Next, gambling is a Zero-Sum Game meaning that the amount of your gain is balanced by the amount of someone's loss. On the contrary, investing is a Positive-Sum situation, or like they say 'win-win', because companies create value over time and everyone wins. Thus, the essence of investing is opposite to gambling.

When you say "when gambling you have nothing in hands, just some expectations based on your interpretation of some results in the past." you are wrong, you have chips in your hand, and chips like stocks can be exchanged for cash in any time. Expectations and interpretations are descriptions of the man's character, you have that in stock markets, on your work, in gambling or in life, so that has nothing with the fact that you need to have money first and depending from amount you have you need to consider where to invest/put that money to make some profit.
You are also talking about "win-win" situation, my first opinion is that is a scam! I live in the world where there is no win-win situation, in that case all people would be rich, but look outside your window. Every investment is a gambling in a first place, because there is no risk free investment, at least not if you don`t have some scheme and you know the outcome, but that is cheating.

Bussybuddy you can consider it how ever do you like, but the facts are facts. You give and expect something in return, its an investment. You apply different strategies for different games and bankrolls, you need to evaluate everything before you run into something no matter is it poker or some company.

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Quote from: tiptopfund on April 04, 2017, 03:36:30 AM

Quote from: iv4n on April 04, 2017, 02:30:32 AM

Tiptopfund didn`t explain nothing, he just explained how he define investment. When you buy a share of the company ( and just to point that successful company share worth a lot ) you also risk, cause some companies go down and that is a fact. From my angle you always bet on some cards, and against others, because companies have competition, companies can be robbed from inside. In the end you have your cards and you put money depending from how much you believe you are strong. If you have a good cards you will be successful.
Main point is difference in blinds, you can play poker for 0.01/0.02 dollars blinds, but if you wish to sit on stock table market you can`t sit with few dollars. With short words everything is investment when you expect money in return, no matter do you invest 1 dollars or 1 million dollars, more money bigger risk, more shaking.

Iv4n, when gambling you have nothing in hands, just some expectations based on your interpretation of some results in the past. When investing you have a share, i.e. an asset that has real value and can be exchanged for cash anytime.

Next, gambling is a Zero-Sum Game meaning that the amount of your gain is balanced by the amount of someone's loss. On the contrary, investing is a Positive-Sum situation, or like they say 'win-win', because companies create value over time and everyone wins. Thus, the essence of investing is opposite to gambling.

Hi tiptopfund,

You have a good point of view related to difference between gambling and investment!

Keep on,
Alex

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Quote from: iv4n on April 04, 2017, 02:30:32 AM

Tiptopfund didn`t explain nothing, he just explained how he define investment. When you buy a share of the company ( and just to point that successful company share worth a lot ) you also risk, cause some companies go down and that is a fact. From my angle you always bet on some cards, and against others, because companies have competition, companies can be robbed from inside. In the end you have your cards and you put money depending from how much you believe you are strong. If you have a good cards you will be successful.
Main point is difference in blinds, you can play poker for 0.01/0.02 dollars blinds, but if you wish to sit on stock table market you can`t sit with few dollars. With short words everything is investment when you expect money in return, no matter do you invest 1 dollars or 1 million dollars, more money bigger risk, more shaking.

Iv4n, when gambling you have nothing in hands, just some expectations based on your interpretation of some results in the past. When investing you have a share, i.e. an asset that has real value and can be exchanged for cash anytime.

Next, gambling is a Zero-Sum Game meaning that the amount of your gain is balanced by the amount of someone's loss. On the contrary, investing is a Positive-Sum situation, or like they say 'win-win', because companies create value over time and everyone wins. Thus, the essence of investing is opposite to gambling.

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Quote from: pcoin on April 03, 2017, 07:53:52 AM

Warning !!!
All businesses have their risks, pitfalls and shortcomings especially when you are new into it, i will sincerely advise you to take some cautions while trying new business ventures.
There are many places you can invest 10btc to earn you 12% returns per year.
1, Forex managed accounts/ pamm account- you can invest into this but you need to choose an expert to trade on your behalf.
2, Government bond
3, Bank debenture
4, Go into agriculture (Any type crop and animal rearing)
5, ETC

These are some of the things that you can make some more money by depositing into those, but you have to secure yourself with some amount by not investing all of them. Returns will take time to get those on investments you made, so better save some money for your needs also.

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Quote from: iv4n on April 04, 2017, 02:30:32 AM

Quote from: bussybuddy on April 04, 2017, 02:09:05 AM

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Quote from: Qartada on April 01, 2017, 04:51:23 AM

Quote from: tiptopfund on April 01, 2017, 12:49:38 AM

Well, taking risk is a job and profit is a salary. No job - no salary.

With investment, having money is practically a job. All you need to do is put it in a few different things (they can all be the same group of investments e.g. Bitcoin casinos) and boom you're getting sometimes >3% monthly with minimal risk.

When one holds money and doesn't invest it he actually loses the money, so I wouldn't consider having money is a job. Investing is.

Bitcoin casinos, games etc are not investments, it is gambling. There is huge difference between those: when you gamble, you own nothing. When you invest in a stock, or a stock index fund, you own a share of the company or companies in which you invested. If the company is successful, you benefit financially.

Congratulations tiptopfund,

You have explained exactly the reality about what is making the difference between investments and gambling!

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Tiptopfund didn`t explain nothing, he just explained how he define investment. When you buy a share of the company ( and just to point that successful company share worth a lot ) you also risk, cause some companies go down and that is a fact. From my angle you always bet on some cards, and against others, because companies have competition, companies can be robbed from inside. In the end you have your cards and you put money depending from how much you believe you are strong. If you have a good cards you will be successful.
Main point is difference in blinds, you can play poker for 0.01/0.02 dollars blinds, but if you wish to sit on stock table market you can`t sit with few dollars. With short words everything is investment when you expect money in return, no matter do you invest 1 dollars or 1 million dollars, more money bigger risk, more shaking.

Hi iv4n,

The idea is to not consider gambling an investment and is true about ROI from 1$ to 1 million $!

Have a good day!
Alex

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Quote from: bussybuddy on April 04, 2017, 02:09:05 AM

Quote from: tiptopfund on April 04, 2017, 02:01:57 AM

Quote from: Qartada on April 01, 2017, 04:51:23 AM

Quote from: tiptopfund on April 01, 2017, 12:49:38 AM

Well, taking risk is a job and profit is a salary. No job - no salary.

With investment, having money is practically a job. All you need to do is put it in a few different things (they can all be the same group of investments e.g. Bitcoin casinos) and boom you're getting sometimes >3% monthly with minimal risk.

When one holds money and doesn't invest it he actually loses the money, so I wouldn't consider having money is a job. Investing is.

Bitcoin casinos, games etc are not investments, it is gambling. There is huge difference between those: when you gamble, you own nothing. When you invest in a stock, or a stock index fund, you own a share of the company or companies in which you invested. If the company is successful, you benefit financially.

Congratulations tiptopfund,

You have explained exactly the reality about what is making the difference between investments and gambling!

Best regards,
BussyBuddyAds Team

PS: try to read about our Digital Assets from https://bussybuddy.com/ads is true we have a gambling but the Prizes are Digital Assets what can be sell anytime at high price, for more info check out T&C from BussyBuddyAds Page

Tiptopfund didn`t explain nothing, he just explained how he define investment. When you buy a share of the company ( and just to point that successful company share worth a lot ) you also risk, cause some companies go down and that is a fact. From my angle you always bet on some cards, and against others, because companies have competition, companies can be robbed from inside. In the end you have your cards and you put money depending from how much you believe you are strong. If you have a good cards you will be successful.
Main point is difference in blinds, you can play poker for 0.01/0.02 dollars blinds, but if you wish to sit on stock table market you can`t sit with few dollars. With short words everything is investment when you expect money in return, no matter do you invest 1 dollars or 1 million dollars, more money bigger risk, more shaking.

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