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Topic: If you multiply 100$ by 2 for 15 times it becomes 1.5m $ (Read 228 times)

member
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Nah, dude, it's really stupid to think that this scheme will work. It too good to be true. I don't suppose that on this site a lot of idiots to fall for this
legendary
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Again please make sure to read our detailed model, understand it and come up with a comprehensive analysis of the
same before drawing any conclusions or taking decisions regarding DSNT
Whitepaper link: https://dappvestment.network/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/DSNTWhitepaper.pdf

Quote from: Your Whitepaper
- each trader works for 8 hours / day, where every 1 ETH is being traded 24/hrs by real human
traders
That's a lot of traders you are giving access to the funds. How are you individually vetting them? How do you know one of them won't just make off with the money?


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- each trader will target a 2.5% raise during their 8 hours shift everyday by making a lot of low risk trades targeting 0.2-0.5% each
What if you buy at a peak and it drops? What are your stop-losses? How will your trading plan alter to recover your losses? What if you run out of funds?


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- using simple math, 2.5% multiplied by 3 per day is equal to 7.5% raise per 24 hours
How can you guarantee 2.5% a day? What if you don't hit that target? What if a single bad trade wipes out all your gains?


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- taking precautions and putting into our consideration times for sudden tethering, general crypto down trends due to regulations or BTC price changes so we will assume a 50% losses percentage, so raise per month will be roughly 100%
Where's the data to support this 50% number? Did you just pull that out of your ass? A 50% loss percentage doesn't mean 50% of your trades made no gains, it means 50% of your trades lost money, so your monthly outcome will be 0% or less.


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example: if we start by 100$, 100$ >> DC >> 200$ >> DC >> 400$ and if you keep multiplying by 2 which is 100% raise, at the 6th time you will reach 6400$ which is 6400%
be roughly 100%
If this was risk free as you claim, you could just take out a bank loan for $5000, and in one year turn it in to $20 million. The fact you are not doing this, and are instead trying to get people to give you their money with no collateral or security, is evidence enough that you are a scam.


This is a child-like plan. I don't know how anyone could be stupid enough to throw their money at something that is even more obviously a scam than Bitconnect.
newbie
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I was a bit overcharged but I will read whitepaper as soon as possible if you say you will invest immediately
newbie
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We also offer internal exchange during crowdsale, if you buy DSNT tokens today and change your mind tomorrow, head to our internal exchange and sell your tokens, we aim to run a risk-free ICO as well as safe model to follow, you don't need to wait for months to sell your tokens, you can sell them whenever you want!
Review here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4390261.new#new
newbie
Activity: 37
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This is glorified hyip and they always make it sound mouth water knowing that greedy and gullible people abounds and that's exactly what they mean by this found in their front page:
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Ours is a modernized financial magic that could earn you up to 6000% in investment returns within a single year.

Anyone who believe their bogus claim, can believe anything, because it goes without saying that there are no business structures/models that can support such claims and people should be aware, they might even go the lengthy of paying the first few multiples and that would be like carrot before donkey.



Again please make sure to read our detailed model, understand it and come up with a comprehensive analysis of the
same before drawing any conclusions or taking decisions regarding DSNT
Whitepaper link: https://dappvestment.network/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/DSNTWhitepaper.pdf
hero member
Activity: 1134
Merit: 517
This is glorified hyip and they always make it sound mouth water knowing that greedy and gullible people abounds and that's exactly what they mean by this found in their front page:
Quote
Ours is a modernized financial magic that could earn you up to 6000% in investment returns within a single year.

Anyone who believe their bogus claim, can believe anything, because it goes without saying that there are no business structures/models that can support such claims and people should be aware, they might even go the lengthy of paying the first few multiples and that would be like carrot before donkey.

newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
Well that was a nice point to mention, although this will require too much work to post

How convenient for you.  Roll Eyes

This demo will be for a 24 hour trading session including addresses and trading pairs to prove our method and profits made per 24 hours.

So you can just trade constantly until you have a good 24 hours, and post that as 'proof' of your method, and just never share all the bad trades you make. This will prove absolutely nothing.

Regarding our whitepaper, we - Dappvestment team - consider it risk-free as we have done it ourselves a lot

If this were true you would all already be millionaires and you wouldn't be trying to scam people out of their coins.


How about a live recorded video ? including all bad & good trades ?
member
Activity: 854
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I do not know whether to believe this or not. Everyone needs to be careful of he investment to go into. Not all projects can be trusted with your money.
This is more or less like someone who does not have cloth to wear, now tells you to bring that one cloth that you have and tells you he will give you two clothes in return. The question is, where will he get the second cloth from, if not to collect yours and go away with it.
Invest wisely please.
legendary
Activity: 2268
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Well that was a nice point to mention, although this will require too much work to post

How convenient for you.  Roll Eyes

This demo will be for a 24 hour trading session including addresses and trading pairs to prove our method and profits made per 24 hours.

So you can just trade constantly until you have a good 24 hours, and post that as 'proof' of your method, and just never share all the bad trades you make. This will prove absolutely nothing.

Regarding our whitepaper, we - Dappvestment team - consider it risk-free as we have done it ourselves a lot

If this were true you would all already be millionaires and you wouldn't be trying to scam people out of their coins.
newbie
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first off that ivnestment ICO you mentioned is a scam. 

The trick to getting rich is compounding over long periods of time.  Doubling 10 times is very tough and risky but  the general idea is good, you constantly keep reinvesting youor profits/ dividends.

Sorry, but how do you judge if our ICO is scam or not ?, we have full legal structure, team is linkedin verifiable and whitepaper is 100% transparent with full details of the process, also code and contract are deployed on ethereum mainnet and verified on etherscan.

ahaha I think a project that make such a slogan is 99% a scam or simply a ponzi scheme......... noone with a brain will believe a thing like this....

Also if i bet at Red on casinò for 100 times with only 10$ I would be rich if it exit everytime Red, but what's the probability of this event ?  Cheesy

As mentioned before, please review our comments and whitepaper, this is not a ponzi scheme, this is a trading model based on mathematical facts, if you are free for 10 minutes please review our whitepaper here: https://dappvestment.network/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/DSNTWhitepaper.pdf
Better read in detail, not skimming because the model requires concentration and focus to trace and make sure how it works smoothly.

This is not a lottery or casino bet, this is a trading method.
member
Activity: 240
Merit: 10
first off that ivnestment ICO you mentioned is a scam. 

The trick to getting rich is compounding over long periods of time.  Doubling 10 times is very tough and risky but  the general idea is good, you constantly keep reinvesting youor profits/ dividends.
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
profit strategy

Sounds good but it works only during the bull market or quite stable. What will you do during bear market? I guess at that time there will be more loss orders than profit one. But the main challenge is those fact that no one controls you, your holdings and profit payments.

At bear market we will tether most of the times but still the method works in certain times at bear market as we usually target a safe zone for a paring in the top ten 24 hr volumes, profits will be slower as the safe zone in a bear market will barely make 0.5% raise but still bear market doesn't stay bearish all along, we simply make use of the volatility and bullish days will usually back up bearish days for the overall calculation. It just needs an accurate and precise decision on when to buy and to stop loss. At very risky bearish trends we'll be tethering until stability.
jr. member
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I was a bit overcharged but I will read whitepaper as soon as possible if you say you will invest immediately
full member
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Merit: 100
ahaha I think a project that make such a slogan is 99% a scam or simply a ponzi scheme......... noone with a brain will believe a thing like this....

Also if i bet at Red on casinò for 100 times with only 10$ I would be rich if it exit everytime Red, but what's the probability of this event ?  Cheesy
full member
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profit strategy

Sounds good but it works only during the bull market or quite stable. What will you do during bear market? I guess at that time there will be more loss orders than profit one. But the main challenge is those fact that no one controls you, your holdings and profit payments.
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
we sure been doing this using our own money

Ahh, good. Will be nice and easy for you to post a trade history and wallet addresses that prove your method works then.

high fast profit = risk

So you admit it's risky? But your whitepaper says that it is "almost, if not completely, risk-free"? How can it be both risky and risk-free?

Well that was a nice point to mention, although this will require too much work to post right now here as the process includes too many trades in different exchanges, too many addresses, trading pairs and different amounts but we promise to post a real detailed demo as soon as possible to end this argument. ُThis demo will be for a 24 hour trading session including addresses and trading pairs to prove our method and profits made per 24 hours.

Regarding our whitepaper, we - Dappvestment team - consider it risk-free as we have done it ourselves a lot but for you as someone who's reading this (actually skimming, not reading) for the first time, will definitely find it risky and too good to be true.

If you got enough time to put your numbers and trace the model, you will find on your own that it's risk-free and to give you an idea let's do that now, assume we are starting the process with a 100$ worth of BTC. Following an up trending signal for COINX/BTC, we will do our first trade within the safe zone in the graph, to decide the safe zone we will calculate (24 hr high + 24 hr low )/2, so if 24 hr high is 0.013 and 24hr low is 0.012, that's 0.0125, so our safe zone is 0.0124-0.0126, we'll buy at 0.0124 and sell at 0.0126, if we hit, that's a 1.6% profit for one trade, if it's on Binance then we'll deduct 0.1% fee review here: https://support.binance.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000429332-Fee-Structure-on-Binance
That means our trade profit is 1.5%, such trade will take between 30 minutes - 90 minutes depending on COINX/BTC 24 hr volume.
Repeating the same process for 5 times / 24 hours is equal to 7.5%, if we do 10 trades per day and only 5 trades are successful which is 50% that's a 3.75% raise per 24 hours, that's 112.5% in 30 days (non compounded, which means that our initial amount is constant, it's more if we are compounding)
I hope that's an easy explanation to follow.
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 18711
we sure been doing this using our own money

Ahh, good. Will be nice and easy for you to post a trade history and wallet addresses that prove your method works then.

high fast profit = risk

So you admit it's risky? But your whitepaper says that it is "almost, if not completely, risk-free"? How can it be both risky and risk-free?
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
Retrace the model yourself, a ponzi won't be backed by a mathematical model like this, put your own numbers and do the math.

Why wouldn't we do that ourselves as you say ?
- the answer is pretty easy, the goods you need to sell for this project to work is " MONEY ", good money today is more good money tomorrow, we sure been doing this using our own money, but doing this using 1 million dollar makes the profits way higher, faster and worth waiting than using 1000$, also professional traders, resources, marketing and development of such project needs more money to work perfectly.

I wouldn't blame anyone if they think this is ponzi because it does sound too good to be true, but don't forget that this project offers:
1. Internal exchange (means you can cash out your investment at anytime after crowdsale, to cut the risk of wait&see, you don't have to wait)
2. Minimum contribution at the moment is 0.025ETH which is almost 15-20$, almost no minimum

Always remember that high fast profit = risk, if you're a no risk person then steady & slow is your way and that is not valid in crypto-market to be honest, bitcoin wouldn't have been bitcoin today if people didn't trust their guts and take a risk

Token contract is deployed on Ethereum network mainnet and code is verified on etherscan, team is linked in verifiable and whitepaper is 100% transparent regarding the detailed process, if you are worried, just wait and see. DSNT is making it anyway
JNR
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@JNRcryptobox
easy to say, but hard to be true,, if you don't have good pshichology
and look like your project above is not good, seems like a ponzi to me
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 18711
I've skimmed your whitepaper and it boils down to this: "Give us your money, and we will double it for you every month."

Anyone thinking of investing in this ask yourself this: If these guys can double the investment every month as they claim, why do they need your money? Even if they were dirt poor and starting with just $100, using this technique would give them half a million dollars in a year. If they could do what they claim, why not just do it, and be millionaires? Why do they need you to give them your money?

This entire project stinks of a ponzi.
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