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Topic: If you optimize/make kernels... - page 2. (Read 4053 times)

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November 15, 2014, 01:28:08 AM
#5
If that's what it takes to produce lower power numbers at the same speed...
legendary
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November 11, 2014, 07:46:20 PM
#4
Using the 'power' slider doesn't do anything unless the card reaches the thermal threshold (max TDP)... Cards haven't done that since scrypt. Reducing voltage on other hand? I've already undervolted all my cards. As a miner you can only do so much.

The idea wasn't to commission work for power reduction, rather make a recommendation on a direction as increasing hashrate doesn't help anyone out for aforementioned reasons. Algos seem to be creeping their way back up as far as power usage goes as well, with neoscrypt being on top.
next time I do a kernel for amd, I will put some useless crap into memory and ask the kernel to read it a few hundreed times... That should do what you ask...  Roll Eyes (because that's really what happen with the so called low power kernels...)
sr. member
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November 11, 2014, 06:48:11 PM
#3
Using the 'power' slider doesn't do anything unless the card reaches the thermal threshold (max TDP)... Cards haven't done that since scrypt. Reducing voltage on other hand? I've already undervolted all my cards. As a miner you can only do so much.

The idea wasn't to commission work for power reduction, rather make a recommendation on a direction as increasing hashrate doesn't help anyone out for aforementioned reasons. Algos seem to be creeping their way back up as far as power usage goes as well, with neoscrypt being on top.
legendary
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November 11, 2014, 02:45:14 PM
#2
thanks a lot for bringing that to our attentions...  Grin
How much will you donate so that we concentrate on that ?

now open MSI AB, change tdp value to 80% or the value you like and... done !!!
You have decreased by 20% the power of the card !!  Grin

wow that was fast...  Grin donation ? see my signature
sr. member
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November 11, 2014, 02:04:05 PM
#1
So I think we (as GPU miners) have reached a point where we realize more hash doesn't really help anyone. Once a kernel goes public, pretty much everyone is in the loop, so you enjoy higher hashrates for all of maybe 1-3 days before everyone is on the same kernel and your percentage of the mining pie hasn't really changed since before the hash increase.

This works like clockwork and is reflected in cloud mining pools like nicehash, most recently with neoscrypt.

If you as a kernel programmer are a miners man, then I'd ask that you focus instead on increasing efficiency at the same hash rates. So miners use less power and miners front less of the bill. Since no one is getting into mining right now (because there is no money), there isn't worry about a sudden increase in miners to fill the gap, rather miners will die... slower... Right now the majority of miners I'm sure would say they're struggling with power costs. This is something miners can really benefit from.

Even if the hashrate decreases, it still can be better as long as the efficiency increases as we're pretty much at break even right now.

Sure keep your super speedy kernels private, it doesn't matter when those hit mainstream, but making things more efficient helps the common miner out.
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