Topic: If you relaly cared about your friends, you would suggest that they buy Bitcoins - page 2. (Read 1909 times)
June 04, 2011, 02:05:05 PM
If you really cared abut bitcoins you'd suggest your friends use their BTC rather than hoarding them.
June 04, 2011, 01:55:13 PM
Ultimately the success or failure of Bitcoin will be the success or failure to get major retailers to take it, particularly online retailers.
Retailers are a bonus, but Bitcoin doesn't need them to succeed. The remittances market alone is worth $300 Billion USD per year. Then there is: online gambling, bitcoin-as-a-financial-instrument, supply chain management, MMOGs, cloud storage, commercial Tor nodes, and many other uses we can't even imagine right now...
June 04, 2011, 12:15:32 PM
If you can convince any of your friends to simply buy $50 USD worth of BTC... you will be doing yourself, themselves, and the entire world a HUGE favor!
Get going!!
You most certainly are not. All you're doing is fueling a speculative mania even further.Get going!!
You can do everyone a favor by convincing them to sell whatever idle productive capability they have for Bitcoins. That's where economic benefits actually derive from. Getting rich from currency speculation is a zero-sum game.
If you want to increase your personal wealth without taking it from someone else you either need to do more work or more productive work. Bitcoin helps with this because it allows people to sell their skills in situations that would be impossible or unprofitable in other currencies which means they can increase their personal economic output.
June 04, 2011, 12:01:21 PM
4 days ago I met some friends at a tavern for the first time in a month. Some other guy mentioned Bitcoin as one of two reasons that the US economy is going to collapse. I did what I could to try to correct that notion and explain why Bitcoin is a good idea, but of course I only had a few minutes before the conversation shifted elsewhere and it would have been silly of me to bring it up again.
4 days ago the value was at $9 per Bitcoin. Today it's at $17. I wish I had convinced even one of them to buy in right then. They would have treated it like a stock of course, pure speculation, but I have no doubt that these people would have eventually done some research and realized *why* it's a superior currency. They're technical enough to understand it; they run websites that handle financial transactions for a group of about 1500 people.
Adding to my personal Regrets List again...
EDIT: for context, the reason it was brought up was mention of Lockheed Martin's purchase of a quantum computer and how it could drastically change cryptology. Bank account passwords and Bitcoin addresses were the two things that were mentioned as being vulnerable to it.
4 days ago the value was at $9 per Bitcoin. Today it's at $17. I wish I had convinced even one of them to buy in right then. They would have treated it like a stock of course, pure speculation, but I have no doubt that these people would have eventually done some research and realized *why* it's a superior currency. They're technical enough to understand it; they run websites that handle financial transactions for a group of about 1500 people.
Adding to my personal Regrets List again...
EDIT: for context, the reason it was brought up was mention of Lockheed Martin's purchase of a quantum computer and how it could drastically change cryptology. Bank account passwords and Bitcoin addresses were the two things that were mentioned as being vulnerable to it.
June 04, 2011, 06:18:00 AM
Does the success of gold or silver depend on the success of major retailers accepting gold and silver?
Well, yes. Because governments came out and said our currency is backed by gold and/or silver, so you can always exchange the money for that.
It's slightly different, I know, but if you cant buy goods in BTC, the currency is worthless.
Nonsense. It doesn't matter if you can't buy goods in BTC. If you can buy dollars with BTC, then BTC is worth exactly however many dollars you can buy with it. Simple stuff really.
EDIT: Back to the topic.
Agreed. My mom just invested. Started telling my cousin to invest when it was around $5.. he dragged his heels until it was $8.70. He already nearly doubled his investment and is thrilled. My dad and sister have said they would but haven't gotten around to it. They regret having waited more every time I inform them of the new price
I always tell them its not guaranteed, and not to invest more than they can afford lose.
June 04, 2011, 05:48:30 AM
Does the success of gold or silver depend on the success of major retailers accepting gold and silver?
Well, yes. Because governments came out and said our currency is backed by gold and/or silver, so you can always exchange the money for that.
It's slightly different, I know, but if you cant buy goods in BTC, the currency is worthless.
And OP, are you dense for giving investment advice to friends and family? I'd rather have poor friends than none.
Never ever do this, this is the most risky asset they could possibly invest in and you CONVINCE them to buy it. What do you think happens when BTC goes to 0, they'll be like "whatever"? Hell no, they blame you for losing their money.
Given the small sum invested, it's most likely not a big deal, but refrain from doing that.
It also doesnt help the currency at all, because they have no idea what it is about and never use it, just see it as an investment.
If you want to help the community, tell them about BTC, educate them, this is what we need.
June 04, 2011, 05:48:20 AM
I'd be careful to make sure people understand the tremendous risk involved of getting into bitcoin as an investment. This is still very experimental.
June 04, 2011, 05:39:01 AM
Ultimately the success or failure of Bitcoin will be the success or failure to get major retailers to take it, particularly online retailers.
Nope. Does the success of gold or silver depend on the success of major retailers accepting gold and silver?
The success or failure of bitcoin is will be the extent of ability to trade bitcoin for dollars etc.. which are already accepted by online retailers.
June 04, 2011, 04:53:41 AM
Ultimately the success or failure of Bitcoin will be the success or failure to get major retailers to take it, particularly online retailers.
June 04, 2011, 04:51:21 AM
And if you want to keep your friends you would also tell them that the risk is HUGE at this point.
Buying bitcoins today is about as safe an investment as buying shares in a small pharma company with only one candidate drug in the pipeline. The rewards could be astonishing, but you could just as well lose all your money.
Be sure to mention that. That way you don't come off as a "pump and dump" artist.
Buying bitcoins today is about as safe an investment as buying shares in a small pharma company with only one candidate drug in the pipeline. The rewards could be astonishing, but you could just as well lose all your money.
Be sure to mention that. That way you don't come off as a "pump and dump" artist.
June 04, 2011, 04:23:42 AM
Preach on brotha! But umm I think it's hit an miss with this whole proselytizing business. Some people are just to lazy and ignorant to think outside their box or comfort zone.
What really shocks me is how often I hear people telling me they think that their money is backed by gold.
What really shocks me is how often I hear people telling me they think that their money is backed by gold.
June 04, 2011, 04:18:13 AM
I am...
I have convinced my brother and some of his friends...
My friend and some of his brothers...
My parents...
My girlfriend...
Anybody I know, care about, and can use a computer I have mentioned bitcoins to - because I don't want to be some billionaire enjoying his wealth alone!!!
If you can convince any of your friends to simply buy $50 USD worth of BTC... you will be doing yourself, themselves, and the entire world a HUGE favor!
Get going!!
I have convinced my brother and some of his friends...
My friend and some of his brothers...
My parents...
My girlfriend...
Anybody I know, care about, and can use a computer I have mentioned bitcoins to - because I don't want to be some billionaire enjoying his wealth alone!!!
If you can convince any of your friends to simply buy $50 USD worth of BTC... you will be doing yourself, themselves, and the entire world a HUGE favor!
Get going!!
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