Topic: If you thought you had found the real satoshi with 99.9% certainty ... (Read 772 times)

Although Satoshi Nakamoto has a big hand in creating digital currency his identity is kept secret in every case. If someone else introduces himself as seven hundred there will be many secrets behind it there have been many attempts many researches to find out his identity, but no one has been able to find out his true identity the amount of bitcoins that he is supposed to have the current value will exceed five billion dollars. But such a genius man who is now one of the most successful people in the world has become the air behind the scenes.

Satoshi is watching and reading everything you all are saying. One day you all will regrate and feel shame of your selves. The way you all are treating man who has done nothing wrong to you but oneday your greed will buy for you not only a  bucket full shame in the multi media but some of you will definitely become a good neighbour of Ross Ulbricht, unless otherwise confess your sin and ask for forgiveness to the man you all are persecuting. What satoshi nakamoto has done wrong to you  ?

Bitcoin has given you a new life a wealthy life but for Satoshi ? You all are causing him a great suffering. This is absolutely barbaric and inhuman. The history will punish you all those causing satoshi to suffer gravely. Get ready, Satoshi nakamoto has saved the word from nuclear war in 2020 as the Trump and Kim were about to start the war in 2019. Satoshis Corona virus protocols has saved the planet earth and has cleansed the air. You have attacked satoshi with Corona virus on 12 February 2920 at the Church of Jesus Christ Later Day Saint in in Exibision road London.  Satoshi nakamoto has recovered then you have attacked him with pokonium. What a greedy people you all are that a man who gave you the Bitcoin and made you rich and you are trying to kill him, this is really horrendous and horrified fact. I am Satoshi Nakamoto speaking. Please leave me alone. For the sake of heaven, leave me alone. This is my final request. Just leave me alone. Enough is enough. Ok you all are Satoshi. Now leave me alone. And let me live my life. 

If you do not leave me alone, I will pronounce nuclear world War lll. Believe me it will happen, same as the Corona virus.

How I do my work you have no knowledge ? This is the final warning. Why just can't you leave me alone ?  Please leave me alone. Other wise I will publish the whole data to the news media and file the case this will create the chaos I do not want to create but you all are forcing me to do it.

Depends, if it was NSA, FBI or any of the sort, then hell yeah, but if it is Torvalds, Tanenbaum, Hellman or any other great mind or group of minds, I'd stay shut and just enjoy the IoT world from different perspective.

Given that we are heading into interchain era, automation, oracles, etc. I'm willing to accept that it might be the first group who's behind it all. We're improving the working mechanisms in ever existent AI powered by all devices connected to internet (IoT) by solving more and more complicated math tasks. Soon games like Sandbox will improve to RDR2 quality and beyond, we'll start spending more and more time in Virtual world, spending virtual currency, feeding of 3d printed food. Welcome to Matrix

We don't have to worry about last one switching off the light, crypto will never die, as it is a powerful means to achieving new world order that has to be perfected by everyday man's input, but it's wrapped in beautiful packaging called lambo and even if people are aware of that, they will still never stop improving it because of the gains. Let's face it, 80% of crypto enthusiasts don't even know how blockchain operates.

I'd like to believe it's just like Nobel's dynamite if shit goes down and technology gets used for wrong reasons, but having met dark side of human nature too many times I am very sceptical.

ok, back to the question:
Yes and No 

I think this is a pretty open and shut case a big resounding NO from the community.

Really great to see that!

 

No.. but its quite intriguing to know.

If I accidentally found out who is hiding behind the name Satoshi, I wouldn't tell the general public about it. Although I generally doubt that someone would pay attention to my statement, since there have already been a lot of assumptions with evidence, even this topic has such.

I think if I found that out I would like to reveal his identity just for fun and information, knowing who created bitcoin is kinda cool and I think its really a thing that everyone should know.

Know who creator made bitcoin is I think will not make a difference at this time and it's not really going to make the market value increase or somehow hype the bitcoin community again.

But I guess it is good information to share with everyone who uses bitcoin even though a lot of people are not going to believe it.

If you thought you had found the real satoshi with 99.9% certainty would you reveal the identity? NO
Would your choice be influenced on the basis that the candidate was already dead or still alive? NO

He created bitcoin which has a concern with privacy.
I love bitcoin.

then:
1. I need to respect his privacy.
2. I am a community guy, I don't want to destroy the community I love.

It's just my simple and personal answer tbh.

I don't know why you're saying 99.9% and not 100%. Anyway, the answer is, of course, no. I don't know how exactly I would have find him, but even if I succeeded on that, I wouldn't want to ruin this mystery. Although, let's be honest, who wouldn't want to know who is he? Even if he was dead, it wouldn't affect me to publish it on an article.

@BitcoinFX, you must be one of the first people that tried bitcoin. In the first topic of the forum, I've seen you posting when satoshi was still active. I don't know if you have even given an interview on zasad@, but I would want to read it.

Nah, unless you want a lot of mics waiting in front of your door the next day.
I don't think it matters anyway on who they really are. No one knew his real identity from the last decade, and I don't think it will do anyway. Maybe we'll just get fake-toshis around.

I voted the same way the majority did, and I'm pleasantly surprised that this is the dominant view in the community. That is, if Satoshi were alive, of course. If Satoshi's dead and I find out, I suppose I'd probably make the info public because this would not affect Satoshi as a person anymore.
If Satoshi is still alive and has not revealed oneself, I think it's a very reasonable assumption that Satoshi does not want the identity to be revealed. I mean, the person's got strong nerves sitting out everything Craig is doing! Unless, of course, Craig is Satoshi and then he's already revealed himself as my friend believes 
If there were a huge financial reward for the revelation, I want to think I would not go for it and would keep quiet, but I am not so sure.

If I would have found out his identity I would certainly not reveal it to anybody because that would just create a panic in the community.
It might turn bad for bitcoin, you never know. The most important thing is it would bring Satoshi and myself into the limelight and who knows what that limelight may bring for us. There are many people who are against bitcoin and if they come to know about it then both of our lives would be in danger.
Also, bitcoin is going really good without Satoshi and I would like it to be that way.

I'm not sure you can be so sure about that. I wouldn't be sure anyway 

There are two now as of this posting. 39 votes no.

I voted no and it will remain no even if he's dead. It would be dangerous to all his relatives and friends in case his identity is revealed. People and authorities will probably try everything, including hurting and threatening them, to get access to all his bitcoins.

I was proud of pretty much everybody voting "no" in this poll. I thought there'd be a few more people out there that would vote "yes" but I guess the trolls and/or rats are taking the day off.

I notice you posted this on Reddit about 3 years ago but I read most of it:


You seem like you truly believe you've found him with 99.9% certainty.

I also want to know Satoshi's identity but it's impossible for me, and I'm sure many people don't know Satoshi didn't reveal his identity either. many people who want to know satoshi's identity but to no avail, i am sure satoshi's identity will be secret forever.

I think I wouldn't reveal Satoshi's identity too. I also think that it is not very important for people whether knowing the real identity of the inventor of Bitcoin or not. The important thing is learning about Bitcoin correctly.

No one didn't reveal thre true identity of Satoshi and no one will unless he wants it to. He knows how to hide himself and he has full right to do it
Revealing his identity isn't crucial for Bitcoin community and I can understand curiosity but really people should be less obsessed with the fact who Satoshi really is.

Yes.

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Is Satoshi Nakamoto Mike Hearn?
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There are many coincidences involving a Mike Hearn and Satoshi Nakamoto connection.   Though many of you will automatically reject the notion because you dislike Mike Hearn, I would suggest you at least entertain the idea’s possibility. I have seen Mike Hearn on the long list of “Satoshi candidates” posted on bitcointalk but I have never seen anyone explore the idea.

Besides Mike being British and Satoshi using British English my first inclination to even consider Mike Hearn as being Satoshi Nakamoto was that Mike’s bitcointalk.org profile was created 1 day after Satoshi last logged in to the forum.

Satoshi’s profile:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/satoshi-3
Mike’s profile:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mike-hearn-2700

Mike’s bitcointalk presence began 1 day 53 minutes and 13 seconds after Satoshi’s bitcointalk presence ended. Almost exactly 1 day separating their profiles seemed odd to me especially considering the impact Mike had in development later on.
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Why would Satoshi Nakamoto hide his real identity?

The people who created the precursors to Bitcoin were not anonymous. Satoshi even referenced multiple influences by name in his whitepaper like Wei Dai, Ralph Merkle, and Adam Back. So why did the person behind Satoshi feel the need to remain anonymous? There doesn’t seem to be any precedent in the small niche of people who attempted to make digital/electronic cash. A lot of people are constantly regurgitating the idea that Satoshi knew how big Bitcoin would become and that Governments or nefarious people would want to hunt him down for his bitcoin holdings or for simply inventing bitcoin.
In reality, Satoshi didn’t even know if his invention would gain traction. Satoshi didn’t know he would be one of a handful of users running bitcoin in the first year which would allow him to mine as many blocks as he did. Satoshi didn’t know how much bitcoin would actually be worth.

So I think the better question is why would Mike Hearn hide is identity?

Mike Hearn in mid August 2006 was hired on by Google as a Site Reliability Engineer (http://web.archive.org/web/20090514053312/http://mikehearn.wordpress.com:80/2006/08/)

Why would an employee of Google secretly develop something? Well, Google themselves sum it up pretty nicely here: “As part of your employment agreement, Google most likely owns intellectual property (IP) you create while at the company. Because Google’s business interests are so wide and varied, this likely applies to any personal project you have. That includes new development on personal projects you created prior to employment at Google.“ (https://opensource.google.com/docs/iarc/ )

Here Mike was indeed fully aware of Google’s policy when he released bitcoinj as a Google copyrighted project under the Apache 2 license: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61438
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61658

Then here he is emailing Satoshi (himself ) a few hours after the bitcointalk announcement:
https://pastebin.com/JF3USKFT

I have no idea how long it takes Google to vet an employee project and license it, but combine that with building bitcoinj and doing that all under 3 months seems fast. What do I know, maybe bitcoinj was a pretty simple project.

I wonder what Google would have done with Bitcoin had Satoshi been an employee of Google?

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Mike claiming he supposedly “coined the term SPV”.  Or, did he?
Here is Peter Todd https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/649413412158599168 and here is the reddit thread to go along with it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3n1ydp/peter_todd_on_twitter_mike_hearn_claiming_he/

The term “SPV” does not appear in the whitepaper but its meaning does. Simplified Payment Verification is section 8 of the whitepaper.  Did Mike slip and just inadvertently hint to him being the real Satoshi? Upon further investigation Mike had claimed months earlier that he coined the term “SPV wallet”.  https://medium.com/@octskyward/the-capacity-cliff-586d1bf7715e So he could have meant to say SPV wallet when Peter Todd was calling him out or maybe he did mean to say just “SPV”. Still not the smoking gun but interesting that he would throw that around knowing full well that Simplified Payment Verification was in the Whitepaper.

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[After writing this up, Mike just released all his private Satoshi Emails through a user named CipherionX. Mike did show up in a reddit thread to confirm that they came from him and are indeed not fake. Bitcointalk link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/new-satoshi-emails-2080206
Reddit link to Mike’s post: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6t2ci2/never_before_seen_mike_hearn_satoshi_nakamoto/dliizv6/ ]
It is very plausible that in order to remain separate from something, that someone would in fact have email conversations between himself and an alias as “proof” that they are completely different independent people. Of course this would only make sense if the emails were made public at some point. Well guess what?  Mike just made them public and Mike also attempted to divulge them to Charles Hoskinson in 2013 who did not release them to the public.

If the dates can be trusted, Mike’s email leak serves as proof that he was there early on even if he was corresponding with himself Besides the new email dump the only known public involvement that I could find was here on the sourceforge forum in October 2009: https://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/bitcoin-list/thread/f4cd80640910240804m64ba45f1g216905fc9db16a2%40mail.gmail.com/#msg23827020 . 

Why did Mike not use Sourceforge as he posted openly so frequently in other project lists or forums? Are there posts that I haven’t seen from early on?


Mike did produce an email he sent to Satoshi In April of 2009 here in this thread: https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/54-my-first-message-to-satoshi/ which does correspond with the new email dump.  An interesting thing I noticed in the above link is that Mike stated, But Mike continued to capitalize Bitcoin as BitCoin not just in that email but until May 14, 2011. Why is that interesting? Well, every thread and post he responded to that mentioned the word bitcoin didn’t capitalize the “C” ever. It would seem like he was almost doing it on purpose to show what a noob he was to the project. Oh then he of course points out the fact that he was a newbie for capitalizing bitcoin that way. It is odd that he continued to use that spelling without regard to how everyone else was spelling it and then later direct people’s attention to the fact that he use to spell it that way early on.
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Also, what is odd about Mike’s involvement early on is that it doesn’t really parallel with his natural online demeanor. He is very vocal and has an involved online presence yet he just really isn’t vocal during the early stages of Bitcoin. Even his personal blog posts came to a halt in early 2009. https://web.archive.org/web/20111130084418/http://mikehearn.wordpress.com:80/ For someone who is  generally very active online before Bitcoin and then after Satoshi’s disappearence, I find it peculiar that there is a dead silence period from Mike Hearn while Satoshi existed online.
Mike went Facebook silent from July 23, 2007 to March 8, 2011 which also coincides with Satoshi’s existence and pre-release development of Bitcoin. https://www.facebook.com/i.am.the.real.mike?lst=662933243%3A61203304%3A1502324015

The next step in my exploration of this idea was to create a calendar of time periods where Satoshi was silent on the forums. For example, Satoshi was silent on the forum from March 24, 2010 until May 16, 2010. I am guessing this is a period when Satoshi was away from his home travelling or vacationing. I was wanting to then correspond them with known dates when Mike was on vacations or at a conference, but as I stated above MIke wasn’t very public during Satoshi’s presence. If anyone knows of any of the potential Satoshis that were vacationing, hospitalized (Hal?), or travelling during that March to May gap in 2010, it would be a good link to the real Satoshi.

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Hal Finney was also involved at the start only to leave and eventually return. He came back a month before Satoshi departed though.  Hal was the recipient of bitcoins first transaction and helped Satoshi troubleshoot early problems [Suspicious link removed]j.com/public/resources/documents/finneynakamotoemails.pdf

Their correspondence lead me to believe that Satoshi may have had either a rapport or at the least some familiarity with Hal. I decided to search Mike Hearn and Hal Finney together which turned up a nice find. Here, https://sourceforge.net/p/tboot/mailman/tboot-devel/?style=threaded&viewmonth=200807 Mike and Hal are talking about Trusted Computing back in July 2008, just months before the bitcoin whitepaper surfaced. Unfortunately I don’t quite fully understand Trusted Computing and the reason Mike Hearn was inquiring about a trusted web browser or how it would relate to Bitcoin, However, I did also find this thread from Mike Hearn that Hal Finney later resurrected about TC: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/avoiding-theft-using-trusted-computing-67508 And even more interesting, Hal Finney later wrote in his brief memoir of bitcoin, “Bitcoin and Me”, posted on the bitcointalk forum (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-and-me-hal-finney-155054)  that he was currently “working on something Mike Hearn suggested, using the security features of modern processors, designed to support "Trusted Computing", to harden Bitcoin wallets.” Was Mike Hearn originally researching a use for trusted computing in Bitcoin but never implemented it only to later pass it on to Hal FInney as a “suggestion”?  Mike on Google+ posted a link to Hal’s TC project when he learned Hal passed away and linked to Hal’s post on BTCtalk (https://plus.google.com/+MikeHearn ; https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-bcflick-using-tpms-and-trusted-computing-to-strengthen-bitcoin-wallets-154290 )

So,

here is Satoshi stating he started working on bitcoin in 2007 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1617,
here Satoshi said he was done writing Bitcoin by July 2008 because that is when Google protocol buffers was made public”I looked at Google protocol buffers when they were released last year, but I had already written everything by then.” https://pastebin.com/Na5FwkQ4
and then above Mike Hearn in July 2008 is seeking guidance from Hal about trusted computing and then Hal working on trusted computing application on the suggestion of Mike for bitcoin. Ok why? Well bitcoin was done by July 2007 when Mike was inquiring about TC and Hal was working on a TC application later, meaning that TC has some application not related to the core of bitcoin but rather to a peripheral of bitcoin.
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[Weak] Searching for more clues about Satoshi I came across a colloquial/slang term that he used. “Hack on” was used by Satoshi in the context of “work on”. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13206
I found multiple instances where Mike Hearn used the same exact term in the same context: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-April/007779.html
http://bitcoin-development.narkive.com/hczWIAby/bitcoin-development-cartographer
https://web.archive.org/web/20170628004052/http://www.advogato.org/person/mikehearn/
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2003-March/msg00031.html
I do admit the “hack on” argument is lame evidence as it is somewhat common term. However, not everyone used it in that context (like Hal Finney didn’t) and it does add to the list of coincidences.
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[Warning: Reaching] Another super weak semi-coincidence is Mike Hearns birthday. Mike’s birthday is April 17th, 1984. Satoshi’s birthday was chosen as April 5th, 1975. I don’t know about you, but a lot of times when I have to enter a birthday in a service where I don’t want them knowing the truth, I usually always use my real birth month with fake day and year. [More reaching] adding 1975’s digits equal adding 1984’s digits/ 7+5=12 and 8+4=12.

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According to Mike Hearn, Satoshi “communicated with a few of the core developers before leaving. He told myself and Gavin that he had moved on to other things and that the project was in good hands.“ https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1558053 This is also backed up by the new email release here:
https://pastebin.com/syrmi3ET   
Mike- “I had a few other things on my mind (as always). One is, are you planning on rejoining the community at some point (eg for code reviews), or is your plan to permanently step back from the limelight?”
Satoshi- “I've moved on to other things.  It's in good hands with Gavin and everyone.”
The above communication is supposedly the first time anyone heard that Satoshi was leaving for good and it was none other than Mike Hearn as the recipient. Then a few days later Satoshi told Gavin the same thing.

None of these things points or alludes to Mike being Satoshi by themselves. But I do think that all these things together do paint a possible connection. Mike denied being Satoshi when I emailed him and also didn’t seem to care that I would post these things online attempting to connect him to Satoshi.

There is still nobody says "Yes" to the question including me on the poll. I wouldn't reveal the real identity of Satoshi. Because I think there must be a reason for Satoshi not revealing his/her/their identity. If I reveal it, it might cause to some big problems who knows.

I don't think anybody is able to find out who is Satoshi Nakamoto and as of now, we have to understand one thing that is if we are still not able to find out who is he then how could anyone think they can find out who is the face behind the name of Satoshi Nakamoto.

Nice logic, I'm impressed, not only for this but also by the reaction of the whole community after I selected my favorite option and saw that almost everyone here has chosen that "Never = No" and will support the work of Satoshi rather than trying to be an arbitrator or a sockpuppet of governments.

I think his friends are also cautious about getting involve coz that would be a lead to knowing Satoshi, if Satoshis friends knows who he really is they should have a huge ball for not being afraid to keep their mouth shut. I'd also keep away from Satoshi tho, or migrate to different country. But I'm wondering if his friends really knows, or he told anyone about it, I'm sure he did and those people are worthy of that knowing his identity. Those are real ones.  

It's a binary option i.e. Never = No. 

Of course not. I will not allow myself to interfere in the life of Satoshi Nakamoto who chose to hide his identity since he was created the famous and valuable digital currency now. If ever i'll know him, i'll keep it secret as what he want. For me,we should respect the decision of other people like Satoshi  Nakamoto.

I'm not a stupid like John FucAfee who can do anything for money and I bet if he knew the identity of Satoshi, then Satoshi would himself/herself/themselves be the most stupid person to believe that ass. I'd never reveal his identity but would go to him to discuss things on how to maintain the ecosystem and how to keep the focus on the ideas which Satoshi brought to the community. I'd never reveal his identity because if I were him, I'd never want to let anyone know about myself but my findings. My research would work as my identity (same as how Satoshi did) and I'd rather keep a distance from everyone but work from behind the scenes. @OP, a personal suggestion here, please add a third option in the poll - Never.

I remember watching a 1 on 1 interview about Dorian Nakamoto back in 2019. I kind of feel bad for him when his life was affected negatively when he was mistakenly identified as Satoshi Nakamoto, in one part of his interview he said that he lost a lot of job opportunity during the time that he was mistakenly identified as a satoshi, he said the company wouldn't hire him because of the "scandal" that he might be satoshi. because of people obsession with Nakamoto's real Identity a man's life has been affected because of it.

you'd probably the best internet detective to find satoshi. would you be compensated if you find him? regardless you could enjoy the fame once you find him and prove that its really him. very hard to prove its him when satoshi can deny its him and so good luck to that 99.9 certainty.

the best chance is an alt of Craig Wright will come to this thread to prove he had found himself.

BIG NO.
Satoshi has been trying to hide his true identity so that it is not known by anyone. Surely this must have a good reason. Not only automatically to be a secret.
Therefore, should we open it to the public? It's the same as not thanking Satoshi.
And what's more, it's no use to me personally, unless Satoshi himself wants to open it.

A friend does not betray a project like bitcoin is worth much more than revealing whether Yes / No the identity, I think that when we learn to value bitcoin beyond its commercial value, we begin to understand that it is not really important to know who is SN.. In fact it would be the most stupid mistake anyone can make, because in a way the result of not knowing who is SN represents one of the principles of bitcoin.

Sometimes I think how they still do not know that the identity of SN is in each block that is mined.

at minimum its a good dude and probably has some stories to tell us like why he chose that specific sentence or likes that newspaper or what his decisions were for doing what he did. Is he doing okay and well.  We suspect something like a house-fire happened and that those coins are gone and we have your condolences if so.  I'd be willing to give that person some bitcoin as would others to make sure they were taken care of and well as bitcoin has become a larger part of our lives and ultimately has taken care of us as well. So, yes, I'm keeping his identity a secret because he's likely a good friend if I knew him.

I would choose not to reveal his identity because I respect his privacy. There are reasons why he hid his identity all these years. And I am not in a position who get to just disrespect his decision and cause trouble to him.

Mar 25, 2014,02:55pm EDT
Nakamoto's Neighbor: My Hunt For Bitcoin's Creator Led To A Paralyzed Crypto Genius

- https://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2014/03/25/satoshi-nakamotos-neighbor-the-bitcoin-ghostwriter-who-wasnt/#5b4354f84a37

"... I ask Finney if he has any connection to Dorian Nakamoto, the man Newsweek has a week earlier named as the creator of Bitcoin, the cryptocurrency that has come to represent an entirely new digital form of money, and whose total value has risen as high as $16 billion at some points over the last year.

His eyes glance downward again, and this time Finney grins. His son Jason explains that involuntary movements are less affected by ALS than voluntary ones; Finney can't easily smile on command for a photograph, but he can smile when he's amused, and he's clearly amused by my questions. ..."

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"What are the odds in a country as large as ours, or as large as California is, or even as large as the general LA area is, that [Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto] and Hal Finney both live(d) in Temple City at the same time, about 1.6 miles from each other?" my contact wrote. "Did they know each other socially, through some club? Did one help the other?"

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Dorian Prentice Satoshi Nakamoto is not Satoshi Nakamoto. He made it very clear indeed.

A California man named Dorian Prentice Satoshi Nakamoto denies having anything to do with Bitcoin.
- https://youtu.be/3dje9JyIjSc

As did the 'real' Satoshi ...

Dorian Nakamoto: I Am Not the Creator of Bitcoin
- https://mashable.com/2014/03/07/dorian-nakamoto-bitcoin/

"Perhaps even more tellingly, Satoshi Nakamoto's account on P2P Foundation forums, posted for the first time in 4 years, simply stating: "I am not Dorian Nakamoto." The person behind the account gave no further clues to what his real identity is."

Your response is purely "mythopoeia" ...

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythopoeia

"... "myth-making") is a narrative genre in modern literature and film where a fictional or artificial mythology is created by the writer of prose or other fiction ..."

Who or what told you Satoshi Nakamoto did not want to be found? The media? The myth?

Last time I checked satoshi had only decided to "move onto other things" ...

Perhaps it is relatively simple to find satoshi !? You just didn't find satoshi, so you think its difficult !?

Satoshi never spent from the assumed "savings" addresses, although could quite easily be spending from later wallets.

Maybe satoshi does not have as many Bitcoins as people think !?

People "assume" a lot of things !

     Again with this. Seriously. The guy doesn't want to be found. If he wanted to, it would be too easy to find him. But since it has proven to be difficult for most of the people to find out who satoshi nakamoto really is, then he obviously put effort in staying hidden for all these years. He never even touched his wallet. I just wish people would just respect the guy's wishes and let him be. Of course we admire the creation, but it's not like it would be impossible to continue to admire bitcoins just because we don't know the real identify of the creator. Just a piece of my mind.

Every rightful minded person who was engaging in the crypto industry has their respect for the founder of this community and the creator of Bitcoin except for those who have criticized him lately and those who pretend to be him. I think the only person who reveal Satoshi, is this man.



Who has been mistaken for so many years for being the only result to be found when searching google image for Satoshi. so that he can finally clear his name without a doubt.

Nice question OP. As much as I wanted divulged his identity, I know the consequence that will occured. But knowing him 99.9 percent would be an honor for me to finally meet him.

There is a guy last time posted here on forum about asking theymos for bitcoin in return of telling the real Satoshi. But unfortunately no one will be interested instead the thread become a troll one. Im sure its deleted now.

Re: Still "Finding Satoshi" then ...
- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54950273

"Go" ...

How about a 'reverse' game of BTC hangman ...

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangman_(game)

Two Bitcoin addresses ...

$1 million in BTC to guess a letter

$1 million in BTC to destroy a letter

I am sure that although everyone will say that they would not reveal his identity, some might change their minds if, say, someone offered a rather generous reward for that information. Money is the biggest motivator after all, and I might ask the question in the poll as follows: "Would you reveal the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto for the $1 million prize paid out in BTC?"

If the offer also contained guaranteed anonymity, I would like to see who would be consistent with the idea of "I respect his privacy".

I will not be revealing him, but that is so hard to contain. He is one of the mystery of the internet. For a long period of time, no one can actually discover the identity this person or group and if you actually found him that would be something that I wouldn't contain, but I should be. I respected his leave, we don't know him so he might have his own reason for that.

If you know, you know ...

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- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_privacy

"The right to privacy is our right to keep a domain around us, which includes all those things that are part of us, such as our body, home, property, thoughts, feelings, secrets, and identity. The right to privacy gives us the ability to choose which parts in this domain can be accessed by others and to control the extent, manner, and timing of the use of those parts we choose to disclose."

Yael Onn, et al., Privacy in the Digital Environment, Haifa Center of Law & Technology, (2005) pp. 1–12

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"Each individual is continually engaged in a personal adjustment process in which he balances the desire for privacy with the desire for disclosure and communication of himself to others, in light of the environmental conditions and social norms set by the society in which he lives."

— Alan Westin, Privacy and Freedom, 1968

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"In the future, everyone will want to be anonymous for fifteen minutes." — Banksy

I'm terrible at keeping secrets so I hope it ain't me.

And I'd also be annoyed at him for being slack enough to put me in that position.

Straight to Fox News it is then. I'd give him a 30 minute head start.

Satoshi is currently hiding in my basement,but I will never reveal his identity.
Jokes aside,how can I find a guy that's been hiding successfully for so many years?
I'm one of the people,that believe in the theories that Satoshi is either dead or he's actually a team of programmers.
Anyway,we have to respect the right of other people to stay anonymous.

No not at all.
Why should we reveal the identity of a person who is himself hiding himself from this cruel world for the past 10 years?
Better we should respect his decision and give him his own privacy.
If somehow his identity is leaked, then i can bet that from his life 'peace' will be soon lost, as many authorities will run for him.
Let's keep the things going on as it is going and enjoy the amazing creation of Satoshi.
Love you Satoshi.

If there ever is a chance to know him in person, I still wouldn't out his identity. It would be an excellent opportunity to meet him someday. I doubt it would happen though.

I know that there are a couple of people trying to lure people into Bitcoin and telling a bunch of shit stuff that isn't true. I have heard a bunch of outrageous stories like they are a group of people that are going to excite another coin and they are just letting people buy into that shitcoin and get your money with that. That's an awful way to hype people into crypto, just awful.

Of course, not. Why would I? The man has already chosen to stay private so I better give him the privacy that he prefers. It's plain showing of basic respect.

But this is not just with Satoshi but also with other people unless, as mentioned by hatshepsut93, the person or people involved are proven criminals. Otherwise, no one has the right to reveal anybody's identity to the public.

And, finally, this Satoshi hunting has to stop. It brings us nowhere.

We have different explanations, but majority answered "no" to honor his creation and pay respect where it's due. But, it's inevitable for some people to get tempted with how much does a company offers to disclose sensitive information about Satoshi (If you knew him 99.9%).  It could be me or you. Would you turn down a $1million offer for a live 5 minute interview about Satoshi's  whereabouts? That question is actually the real challenge in this discussion.

So, I won't be hypocritical about the answers, we might say No at first, but it could also mean Yes on the latter.
As we'll noticed there are still posts about trying to uncover who Satoshi is, and that means somebody out there was trying to figure out who's the real Satoshi is, and I'm very sure he'd definitely reveal it the moment he gathered the information.

However, me myself have to say No as well. The only thing Satoshi wants is anonymity, and that's not something difficult for us to do as a sign of respect.

99.9% certainty is impossible, because even if one has identified him as Satoshi there needs a person to confirm him as real Satoshi. Till date we haven't got any of his friends or colleagues confirming his identity. From the discussion he has made through our forum, it is clear that he's just a common joe. This makes it a hard task to identify the true person behind the large network.

I would say No, as well, revealing his identify will not bring any good in the bitcoin community. Besides, we have been enjoying his creation since day one, so let him rest if he chooses to. I think this is the most appropriate action we can do, to let him live his life in privacy for the rest of his life (that is, if he is still alive by this day) regardless if there is a bounty on his head or not. He is not a criminal, so I doubt though that anyone will offer money in return for revealing or identifying the Legendary Satoshi Nakamoto.

It is impossible to identify the real person behind the moniker as he did not leave many clues behind if not he would have been ousted by now and the only way to identify the person will be the way in which he paid for the domain he registered and for that we need the help of authorities to crack that as he might have gone through many layers to safeguard his identify.

With all these stipulation in place there is no way i will be able to identify the person and hypothetically even if i get the authority to check the payment layers i might try to crack that puzzle because of my curiosity but not to expose his identity to the world.

I wonder if most would still answer "no" if USA's government suddenly offered them a few good million bucks for the information. Knowing the world as it is, there'd be so many that would sacrifice his privacy to their own advantage. I would personally not do it no matter what offering I'd possibly get. As long as I want my privacy to remain at the level I want it to be, I'd have to be such a douche to destroy another person's life for whatever I'd get in exchange, be it fame, bucks or anything else.

There are so many people out there ignorantly sharing their personal life online caring 0% about it that I'm quite sure there are lots of members who'd say they would reveal it tho.

No way, everyone deserves privacy, and I wouldn't reveal anyone's identity, unless they are a criminal. The search for Satoshi or some of the infamous reddit's doxxing campaigns clearly show how harmful these things can be when innocent third parties get very negatively affected by the actions of careless people who don't respect anyone's privacy. It's especially bad in America, where evil people can call swat of just about anyone and potentially get them killed.

It would be great to finally see him, it would be an honor to meet Satoshi but if he is going to be exposed, something might happen to him after it. And I might be blamed by the people above who voted NO.  I'd rather not tell anyone about my finding. I wonder though how I'm going to be 99.9% sure he is Satoshi. He wouldn't be wearing an ID with the name Satoshi Nakamoto on it. There is no real data about him too.

It’s definitely a NO from me too. Like other members have said - if someone has gone to so much effort to protect their identity , them they deserve to remain anonymous . But, if I knew who he was I would certainly want to meet him , just not reveal his identity to anyone else 

Could be, if the price is right  lol just joking. You know if I was that super curious about him, tried to get close to him and finally found him, that will be the greatest achievement to the cryptocurrency history, more epic that bitcoin reacing 20 grand. And knowing him just by yourself is priceless, no need to let the others know especially the government for some reason. And I'm sure if anyone in here was Satoshi, he also don't want his identity to be disclosed, unless he's an idiot.

All members going with No so I am also going with this because he is living anonymously for more then one decade so he deserve this because he love to live this life I never want he face problems with this Satoshie is man behind this all revolunationay change which will bring more great things in our lives in future and we already have some really great advantages just because of this so my answer is really no I will never do this.

No because that would give him/her an incentive to spend some of those unspent bitcoins mined and tank the price.    
Amazingly his bitcoin baby, after launching it and getting it properly bootstrapped is doing just fine. 
The *only* upside I can think of with him being revealed is that (s)he would shut up CSW once and for all!

Definitely not! Why would I reveal the identity of a person who himself wants to stay hidden and gifted us such an wonderful idea like bitcoin. There's no good reason for us to evade his personal space and make his life miserable. Do you think the enforcement agencies will let him live in peace if by any chance his true identity is identified?

Satoshi is a reason behind the financial success of a lot of people in the world, including me! So we wouldn't even try to find his true identity because we respect his decisions. If he himself wants to be identified, he would do that himself!

No.

I think satoshi deserves his privacy if he were to decided to come forward it would be best done on his own merit rather than being exposed as satoshi.

I would think we're on the same page here BitcoinFX

 

NO, it will only bring annoyance to me since a lot of people would most likely keep asking me questions day in day out without stopping until I gave them something. other than it will be a pain in the ass, satoshi wanted to stay hidden/unknown and I as a person who greatly benefited from his invention it is only right that I respect his decision to stay hidden and not bring unnecessary problem to him.

No. He had been trying to hide for years, not leaving traces I wouldn't want to ruin his adventure. But I'd be interested to know what other projects related to crypto that he'd been involved with in the past 10 years of his disappearance if there is.  In his last comment, he seems to express like he's up to grander project and id he revealed himself to that project.

If you thought you had found the real satoshi with 99.9% certainty would you reveal the identity?

Vote Yes or No?

Discuss ...

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Would your choice be influenced on the basis that the candidate was already dead or still alive?