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Topic: if you want btc to succeed start dumping your iDevices/Apple - page 2. (Read 5290 times)

legendary
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The AAPL price is drained already due to the light has run out. It is not only just bitcoin regardless the policy defined. I personally try not to get more apple mobile products unless it is the must.

Why google price stays 900 usd+? There are three main reasons
1. bitcoin
2. cheap phones with strong functions
3. Searching service is still the fastest.




I thought Google Adwords generated some astronomical percentage of Google's profits, like 90%.  Maybe my memory's off.
sr. member
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Firing it up
The AAPL price is drained already due to the light has run out. It is not only just bitcoin regardless the policy defined. I personally try not to get more apple mobile products unless it is the must.

Why google price stays 900 usd+? There are three main reasons
1. bitcoin
2. cheap phones with strong functions
3. Searching service is still the fastest.


legendary
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Gee, you guys really must think Bitcoin sucks if you need Apple to bend over so badly.
newbie
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Nexus 5
T mobile
newbie
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Apple is a dinosaur that will be left in the dust. People are tired of closed systems.

Have you seen the latest sales reports? People think otherwise!
sr. member
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Apple is a dinosaur that will be left in the dust. People are tired of closed systems.
hero member
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Apple's closed approach with iOS is the reason they will fail to grow, and continue to lose market share to Android

Personally I love Apple's design and style but I wont give them my money if they treat me like a child
legendary
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Freelance videographer
I can understand why some people feel so strongly about Apple (well I think I do) but as a professional film editor who relies on Final Cut Pro X (10) to do my video editing/special effects work as the software that gave me the best results (in my case) is all mac only so I have to buy Apple whether I like it or not as I simply can't find feasible alternatives in the PC world so MacBook Pro with Retina display it is for me (plus they're good machines in my case).

Are you saying OP,that people in my case should abandon my MacBook Pro regardless of what is best for the work that I do?As I'm rather puzzled with what you're actually trying to say.

I have an android phone as I can pay for stuff in the real world with my phones NFC wallet (EEs Cash on tap feature+NFC SIM card installed onto phone) as I value having freedom from carrying coins/cash/cards around as they can be lost/stolen more easily.

It's much easier to focus on keeping one thing safe (my phone that does it all) than it is to keep an eye on everything else you carry (wallet,keys,charger,backpack,sunglasses,etc) in my case.
legendary
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Monero Core Team
I have to agree with the OP and call for the Bitcoin community to boycott Apple, particularly IOS; however I must say this boycott needs to be extended also to Windows Phone / Windows RT. Apple has indeed become Big Brother and IOS platform has effectively become the telescreen of the 21st century. Microsoft with Windows 8 RT / Windows phone has decided to emulate Apple here is currently little brother. The boycott needs also to be applied also against Windows 8 RT / Windows phone to prevent this little brother from becoming another Big Brother. The fundamental problem lies with the requirement that only software obtained from an authorised store may be installed on these devices. The crucial difference with Android is that end users on Android can elect to allow the installation of applications from out side the Android Market / Play Store on their devices.

We must first consider that when Satoshi developed Bitcoin a critical assumption was made in that the end user of a computing device would have complete control over the computing device. This assumption is still for the most part correct on the desktop / laptop platforms (although it is currently being eroded by Apple and Microsoft) but is far from the case on mobile. This is critical for the security of Bitcoin. Furthermore what exactly is the point of eliminating the banks as third parties in financial transactions if the vendor of the operating system becomes the all controlling third party?

The history of the IOS platform is literally one of censorship and oppression. Bitcoin is only a very recent addition to the Apple censorship list. To understand how pervasive Apple censorship has become one only needs to search for Apple Censorship. Furthermore, and this should be a warning in particular to Libertarians, this type of censorship by the private sector easily becomes a tool for state sponsored censorship and oppression. http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/apple-blocks-app-developed-chinese-activists-and-radio-netherlands-worldwide-0. Let us not forget that this is an example of using the DRM built into IOS to assist the state in censoring the Internet.

Should the boycott also apply to the desktop version Max OS X? While at this point the censorship still does not apply to the desktop we must keep in mind that most of Apple is already taking some steps towards censorship on the desktop in particular with gatekeeper. Given Apple's commercial success with IOS the temptation of extending it to the desktop may simply be to great in the future.

But what about Microsoft? Windows 8 RT has thankfully turned out to be a dud in the marketplace largely because of the locked bootloader and the requirement that only applications obtained from the approved store may be installed on Windows 8 RT. The has led to a close to 1 billion USD loss for Microsoft on Windows 8 RT devices. Unfortunately Microsoft is responding to this loss not by getting rid of the DRM and lockdown on Windows 8 RT but instead by dropping the licensing fee. http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/11/5199446/microsoft-considers-free-versions-windows-phone-windows-rt This could potentially pose a threat to Bitcoin, if Microsoft floods the market with cheap locked down devices that behave like the telescreen in  George Orwell's 1984.

The best solution is Operating Systems that are Free Libre Open Source Software. GNU/Linux, Android, Free BSD  etc. If the operating system contains GPL V3 code, as is currently the case with GNU/Linux but not with Android, then this provides protection against a locked bootloader. For this reason in the case of Android it is very important to first verify that one can “root” the device before purchase.

Some will say that Bitcoin needing for certain business models to fail, is a negative aspect of Bitcoin. The reality is that at a very fundamental level Bitcoin is incompatible with censorship, oppression, the suppression of free speech, the suppression of civil liberties, in fact the suppression of most basic human rights. If a particular business model depends on censorship, oppression, the suppression of free speech, the suppression of civil liberties, the suppression of any of the most basic human rights then it needs to fail, for far more important reasons than Bitcoin. If Bitcoin helps bring it down then this must be considered a feature and not a flaw of Bitcoin.
sr. member
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http://altoidnerd.com
Will happily take crypto for ipad. It's the top of the line with 3G and 64gb.

Put it up in market place, and there heroes will show up and make it go OK.
sr. member
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Will happily take crypto for ipad. It's the top of the line with 3G and 64gb.
sr. member
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http://altoidnerd.com
...It will go eBay tomorrow....

Sidebar: No sell it here with crypto.  Try it.  It's kind of hard to organize, but we should try.
sr. member
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I've been hanging on to my ipad mini because it has truly excellent battery life and I do a lot of long flights. But I'm just growing weary as fuck of ios. It will go eBay tomorrow. Phone-wise, I dumped the 4s for the Note a couple of years back and I couldn't ever go back to that shitty little screen.

Talking of wallets that apple doesn't support, I've been playing with mycelium the last couple of weeks and I'm really impressed. Walmart has a decent looking samsung cricket phone on sale for $50 running 4.x. I'm thinking about buying a couple to use as dedicated cold storage devices. Anyone have any thoughts as to whether this is a good idea? I'm guessing the wifi will give me internet access if needed, even though I don't have cricket service.
sr. member
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http://altoidnerd.com
apple's on a mission to ban legitimate apps that threaten it's great wall of apple.
bitcoin could make it possible that they lose their edge at milking the sheep.
http://bitcoinowl.com/why-you-cant-run-bitcoin-apps-your-iphone


if you have any respect for yourself regardless of if you like bitcoin or not it's time to dump all your iCrap and look for better options in your life.

seriously, time for apple to go the way of blackberry and wither away.
It would be nice if that happened but everyone around the world seems to want their iDevice so that they can play in the walled garden. The brand is still strong.

It would be really difficult to convince a fairly large group of professional creatives that they no longer want apple.  It does in fact make sense for graphic design and architecture etc to have a strongly restricted set of tools they use to work.
sr. member
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Apple will be forced to accept Bitcoin related apps in the near future, as Bitcoin become more and more mainstream, they will receive tons of complaint from customers.

that's the thing.. they have so many loyal users that they need not worry about repercussions of their actions. they can ban it now, try to do what they want with it, and then if it backfires.. allow back into their market.
hero member
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Apple will be forced to accept Bitcoin related apps in the near future, as Bitcoin become more and more mainstream, they will receive tons of complaint from customers.
sr. member
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I have used Iphone for a while, JB'd , and never updated past 5.0....I am kinda having enough though....I also have a android device 10.1 note, mainly for the pen.....


I am sorta over apple a  bit in relation to the Iphone, the screen size for one....and this anti btc stance, well it seems draconian, I mean there's no regulation/law against view info about BTC through the apps, yet the app store kicks some of even them off.

Also I note that the Iphone looses randomly data in the sync process, (and always the important file) as it seems to have different rules for what updates what.

I almost feel were back in 1984 - 1990 where apple lost it market share to wintel. Now Apple is looseing market share to  GoogSung, (or RoidSam if you prefer) and they sorta haven learnt from last time. Im mean thats ok they make more margin per device and the whole ecology thing does mean it just works alot of the time, but they have some systemic floors. Eg my MPB can fry and egg over the power cable /logic board area, and what I had to do to get actual >dual boot (tri-boot) and with more than two partions, and not use bootcamp was insane.

wasn't it IBM? the hilarious thing was that in 1984, applie implied that people were sheep, and to liberate themselves, they should buy apple prodcuts. today, the opposite is true.
legendary
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I have used Iphone for a while, JB'd , and never updated past 5.0....I am kinda having enough though....I also have a android device 10.1 note, mainly for the pen.....


I am sorta over apple a  bit in relation to the Iphone, the screen size for one....and this anti btc stance, well it seems draconian, I mean there's no regulation/law against view info about BTC through the apps, yet the app store kicks some of even them off.

Also I note that the Iphone looses randomly data in the sync process, (and always the important file) as it seems to have different rules for what updates what.

I almost feel were back in 1984 - 1990 where apple lost it market share to wintel. Now Apple is looseing market share to  GoogSung, (or RoidSam if you prefer) and they sorta haven learnt from last time. Im mean thats ok they make more margin per device and the whole ecology thing does mean it just works alot of the time, but they have some systemic floors. Eg my MPB can fry and egg over the power cable /logic board area, and what I had to do to get actual >dual boot (tri-boot) and with more than two partions, and not use bootcamp was insane.
sr. member
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I want to get rid of my iphone. What do people suggest as a replacement? I Was a bug Nokia fan back in the day, but haven't had one for years.
Stop focusing on the brand and start looking at the operative system and the hardware.

I never said I was focusing on brand. I just asked for suggestions for alternatives to iPhones.


probably not a good time to buy a new phone, as the more popular models are kind of around the corner. i really like the HTC one though, along with the galaxy s4. i'd choose the htc one right now though.
newbie
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I read this thread and quickly went outside and smashed my iPhone to pieces!






Sent from my iPhone 5

Bought a new one with bitcoins?
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