Topic: If you were a campaign manager would you select these members for campaigns? (Read 1197 times)
April 16, 2024, 03:52:28 PM
Please explain what was wrong with my question? Did I offend anyone? Why deleting it without any answer?
are those postings acceptable for a Signature campaign?
April 16, 2024, 02:47:12 PM
April 15, 2024, 06:53:06 PM
It is good to read the activity in the thread but unfortunately no names have been added to the mix. Hopefully members will add a name or two and allows to read what they are doing and if it even warrants the amount of pay they are receiving from campaigns as they spam their way to meeting their signature quota.
Hopefully some names might be added to further the discussion.
Hopefully some names might be added to further the discussion.
April 15, 2024, 03:54:15 PM
if y'all could be less sentimental and more realistic, y'all would realize that most of these accounts are managed by the companies themselves.
Are you saying the companies are behind the alt accounts in their campaign? I doubt that’s likely because of the merit system. They would have to spend a significant amount of time and effort into building those accounts. That would mean the company would have to start building accounts 3-6months before launching a campaign. That is too much work just to cut campaign costs. I don’t think any reputable company will have any problem splashing some money on advertising. 
April 12, 2024, 05:06:44 PM
I could list dozens, probably a hundred examples for the community to analyze--but why bother? The only opinion that matters as far as whether any shitposting moron gets into a campaign is the manager, not the rest of us who don't manage campaigns.
Definitely not for us -- but TP, don't you think it'd go a long way if we took it upon ourselves to reveal the ones we've known? [if y'all could be less sentimental and more realistic], y'all would realize that most of these accounts are managed by the companies themselves..Yikes! Nobody wants to be termed a "rebel" for not soothing up their secrets with some infinitesimal delusions [especially since most of them are active users]Quote
Give 'em hell, JollyGood!
he's been so relentless... A couple of elite don't even reckon him - tell me the forum is selectively imbalanced without telling me? 
April 12, 2024, 10:41:42 AM
I was just explaining what happened at times when a running campaign that was formerly CFNP becomes OPEN again where the campaign manager might need one or two participants to fill some space up. In this campaign having opened it again, I do see enough good-quality posters applying but since there was a limited space to fill up, the CM would have to choose the needed few.
Just because every once in a while good poster is out of the campaign for a short period of time, it doesn't mean that there's not enough spots for good posters. This is just to clarify that it is not always about the scarcity of quality posters at times but the overwhelmingness of the CMs just as I indicated in my first post.
True, its not always about scarcitty, sometimes its about laziness to weed out shitposters from their own campaign (perfect example of that being the campaign you are part of). 
April 12, 2024, 03:02:24 AM
Ever since M!xers were expelled, some good and average posters are still looking for the campaign to join, while some have but want to switch for the better.
You want to say that there are good posters who were unable to join any signature campaign since the beginning of the year, despite them being active and constantly applying? Yeah right. However, the gist is that if the CM is fully aware of the shitposters with their plainly annoying posts, just because more quality posters applied upon the reopening of the campaign, he would have had the chance to replace them easily. This is just to clarify that it is not always about the scarcity of quality posters at times but the overwhelmingness of the CMs just as I indicated in my first post.
April 12, 2024, 02:01:42 AM
It's a shame. There are already too many spammers/shitposters in some sections like the Gambling one but not only, posting random off-topic, nonsense, low value or irrelevant content, or just repeating what they've read in the previous pages of the thread from other posters. So the forum doesn't need users posting AI generated posts on top of that. In my opinion, campaigns enrolling or maintaining such spammers should be banned or restricted to a very limited number of participants. Otherwise campaign managers accepting this shouldn't be allowed to manage a campaign here anymore, at least.
Finally someone states it and is not afraid to shout it from the rooftops. It has been an old problem for many years and nothing has been done about it until today. Sad but true
Chapeau @Saint-loup
April 11, 2024, 12:10:38 PM
Ever since M!xers were expelled, some good and average posters are still looking for the campaign to join, while some have but want to switch for the better.
You want to say that there are good posters who were unable to join any signature campaign since the beginning of the year, despite them being active and constantly applying? Yeah right. I am rather curious on what would be the percentage of active posters in that section that actually gamble! I would say it would be an easy bet on 20% not knowing what an over/under or a double chance is.
Not that they don't gamble, but majority don't even watch the sports they are commenting. 
April 11, 2024, 09:10:58 AM
The reality is that 2nd page up to the 20th page isn't always read by organic visitors from the internet.
I think campaign managers should consider users who always post on the first page because they are the first to be noticed.
I think campaign managers should consider users who always post on the first page because they are the first to be noticed.
This thing will destroy the forum!
Since most are interested in just getting paid to post no matter what they will simply start a hundred topics a day to have for themselves, their "family", and their friends an opportunity to post in the first two pages, then completely abandon the topic and opening a new one each day. It will end with some accounts posting the same thing in 30 topic a week, the only difference being a paraphrased title for those topics.
Who bothers to read these posts except for other Gambling board spammers?
I doubt even that happens!
I am rather curious on what would be the percentage of active posters in that section that actually gamble! I would say it would be an easy bet on 20% not knowing what an over/under or a double chance is.
April 11, 2024, 04:03:37 AM
Some names to consider:
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Campaign: bc.game
Member: JollyGood
Trust: # +18 / =3 / -1
Reason: Has no semantic value
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Campaign: bc.game
Member: JollyGood
Trust: # +18 / =3 / -1
Reason: Has no semantic value
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April 11, 2024, 01:18:18 AM
If truly some CMs had seen what some posters wrote, they would have evicted them a long time ago, but they remain in the campaign.
Or they know that they won't be able to attract better posters than the ones they want to kick, therefore letting shitposters stay in the campaign.But what I noticed is that when there are new openings by the campaigns with some shitposters in which more qualified users applied, the CMs only take the needed number of users at that time and CFNP the campaign again. This is despite better posters applied and shitposter are many in such campaigns. So they are not always short of better posters but are overwhelmed with the high number of users to manage. It's obvious they do not know the nonsense many users are writing because some are worse to the point that what they wrote should have naturally angered the CM to send them out.
April 10, 2024, 01:26:55 PM
The reality is that 2nd page up to the 20th page isn't always read by organic visitors from the internet.
I think campaign managers should consider users who always post on the first page because they are the first to be noticed.
It's not that it isn't always read, its almost never read but that doesn't mean that only the posts written on the first page should count as there are "megathreads" that are more worth reafing than many brand new topics.I think campaign managers should consider users who always post on the first page because they are the first to be noticed.
Usually, the visitor will go to the first page and then read the first page comments and if they landed on the 5th or 10th because there are more keywords to that 5th or 10th page, they back read for some time but if they didn't find the answer, they'd skip and go to the first page again.
A user would notice that even the 50th-page-answers are quoting the OP in the first-page post. For a campaign to be successful, I think hiring users who usually reply on the first page has higher chance.
April 10, 2024, 11:13:10 AM
The reality is that 2nd page up to the 20th page isn't always read by organic visitors from the internet.
I think campaign managers should consider users who always post on the first page because they are the first to be noticed.
It's not that it isn't always read, its almost never read but that doesn't mean that only the posts written on the first page should count as there are "megathreads" that are more worth reafing than many brand new topics.I think campaign managers should consider users who always post on the first page because they are the first to be noticed.
If truly some CMs had seen what some posters wrote, they would have evicted them a long time ago, but they remain in the campaign.
Or they know that they won't be able to attract better posters than the ones they want to kick, therefore letting shitposters stay in the campaign. April 10, 2024, 03:47:55 AM
I think the overwhelmingness of the campaign managers makes it go unchecked for too long.
I don't think that's the main problem, or not even one of the main ones. Its a simple fact that there are more spots in the campaigns than there are quality members, meaning managers have to fill the remaining spots with shitposters (at least those campaigns with lower payrates) so we get what we have at the moment.Nevertheless, what I notice is that, the more the number of users to deal with, the more the shitposters that slip through the radar of the CMs. Doesn't that speak volumes already? And if we go by your view, fine, they need to deliver as promised the sponsored company, for this, a shitposter might find his way in when there was no better one in the beginning. But over time after several warnings, if such can't change, he should be kicked out, and by then, a better poster could be available to take his position.
If truly some CMs had seen what some posters wrote, they would have evicted them a long time ago, but they remain in the campaign.
April 10, 2024, 12:43:27 AM
I took my time to read almost all replies on this thread
You are talking like this thread is 20 pages long and not page and a half lol. The reality is that 2nd page up to the 20th page isn't always read by organic visitors from the internet.
I think campaign managers should consider users who always post on the first page because they are the first to be noticed.
Can you prove that? checking one topic on the internet where there is the topic here on Bitcointalk
I checked the keywords Bitcoin becoming Legal tender discussion
I landed on this page https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5488939.140, I also researched three topics and some of them landed on the 5th page out of the 9th, it has something to do with the relevancy and substance of the keywords so it's not the fist poster but who created the most relevant answer on the topic that usually show up in the internet.
This is another topic to discuss but all I know as a blogger Google will always index the most relevant based on the keywords so it's not about who comments first but who has the most substance, if I were a campaign manager I would still go for quality poster regardless when he placed his comment.
April 09, 2024, 09:48:42 PM
It's a shame. There are already too many spammers/shitposters in some sections like the Gambling one but not only, posting random off-topic, nonsense, low value or irrelevant content, or just repeating what they've read in the previous pages of the thread from other posters. So the forum doesn't need users posting AI generated posts on top of that. In my opinion, campaigns enrolling or maintaining such spammers should be banned or restricted to a very limited number of participants. Otherwise campaign managers accepting this shouldn't be allowed to manage a campaign here anymore, at least.
I just can't believe how low the standards are for getting into a decent-paying campaign these days. It seems like a lot of campaigns are simply in the business of generating spam.
The Gambling section is nearly unreadable. Its 90% text-spun news bytes about cricket and soccer -- nobody is saying anything interesting. They are just regurgitating something they read online and presenting it in a way that isn't quite plagiarism. A LOT of it is AI generated -- I think most of the unreported/undetected AI posts are in the Gambling section. Who bothers to read these posts except for other Gambling board spammers? Is it really cost effective for campaigns?
But the solution for me is easy: just don't read those topics. I really only read and participate in a handful of topics in the Gambling section: those where I am joined by high-quality posters who actually know what TF they're talking about, or if they don't, they can admit it, and at least articulate themselves using original thought.
April 09, 2024, 04:40:32 PM
The reality is that 2nd page up to the 20th page isn't always read by organic visitors from the internet.
I think campaign managers should consider users who always post on the first page because they are the first to be noticed.
How did you come to that conclusion? If campaign managers decide to go with what you have suggested, I fear it will do more harm than good because we would have signature participants starting new threads everyday just to meet up with campaign standards. Many forum members use TryNinja’s telegram bot to get notifications about new topics, if it becomes a necessity for posters to get paid for making posts in the first page, they would take advantage of the bot without improving their post quality. I think campaign managers should consider users who always post on the first page because they are the first to be noticed.
April 09, 2024, 01:55:21 PM
I took my time to read almost all replies on this thread
You are talking like this thread is 20 pages long and not page and a half lol. The reality is that 2nd page up to the 20th page isn't always read by organic visitors from the internet.
I think campaign managers should consider users who always post on the first page because they are the first to be noticed.
April 09, 2024, 10:51:08 AM
I took my time to read almost all replies on this thread
You are talking like this thread is 20 pages long and not page and a half lol. I think the overwhelmingness of the campaign managers makes it go unchecked for too long.
I don't think that's the main problem, or not even one of the main ones. Its a simple fact that there are more spots in the campaigns than there are quality members, meaning managers have to fill the remaining spots with shitposters (at least those campaigns with lower payrates) so we get what we have at the moment.Jump to: