Topic: If you were to create your own society, small or big, what would it look like? (Read 302 times)

I would like to know if a public servant who lives off my taxes is using stock options issued by Pfizer as curtains.

There is a really really simple solution to your concerns:  There is no law making someone have to be a public servant.  If they want privacy, pick a different occupation.  Pick it from the get-go too because anyone who has the cycle-time through the revolving door should be 25 years or so.  Best to pick public service as a career path early and stay with it.

And best to bid on contracts which are a LONG way from public use consumption because the long tenticles of the surveillance apparatus developed (highly) to keep the plebs under control, and in broad use against us right now, will crawl right up your ass in a hurry and be difficult to dis-lodge if you get to close.

For starters not seeking membership at any of the criminal organization existing in the world like Codex Alimentarius Commission (CAC)
This is now over 11 years old and is another enlightenment moment, also explains somewhat why sick Billy wants to be a farmer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsJt1uoAXN4
Everything is fine and tanty, carry on

taliban are just angry ex-homeowners with guns. angry because they lost everything by western invasion.
they have no tactical skills or training..

if you want security. anyone can hold a gun.. but try someone that knows kung-fu or kickboxing. and has tactical experience.
EG if a paparazzi was shot by a angry ex-homeowner with a vendetta. just because they were stalking you,.. well, because you hired him expect alot of legal pain in the form of lawsuits and criminal charges.
however hire a guy that can restrain and put a guy to the ground without a shot fired. alls fair, self defense.

that said.
small communities might seem good from the outside. but have you ever tried to live in these elite 'gated' communities.
they think they are the law. .. cant have lawn grass over 2 inches long. cant water sprinkler the lawn during the day. cant have music or parties after 8pm.
muslim gated communities demand women cover their skin and make other overly-obedient laws for control of woman

small communities end up knowing too much about their neighbours and find any small reason to snitch on a neighbour

having a wider community dilutes the cesspool of snitching and rule making and instead tries to limit how many laws exist because the community is more broader and not all rules can fit all the community. so there are less rules by default.

EG not everyone can afford a gardener. so in a wider community of poor and elite. there are no elitist rules
EG in a small elitist community. standards and rules are higher to fend off letting the poor in.
EG in a small poor community. rules are made to fend off elitist 'takeover' of hard earned property.

the issue with society is not that laws are too wide or too tight. its that laws need to actually be reasonable and actually have an effect on the purpose for the rules.

EG car speeding laws. instead of making it a law that a car driver will be fined $1000 for speeding over 100mph. make it a rule that no public road worthy car can actually reach 100mph, using using speed limiter devices. and another rule that the fine is more then $1000 for damaging, tampering, removing the limiter.

that way the rules actually do stop people insanely speeding to cause an accident where they are fined after the damage is already done. and actually prevents speeding to prevent damage being done in the first place

its about having laws that fit the purpose of the activity that should not be acceptable

A cool picture of this inner my head is all I can imagine.
Since violence is what people don't like hate and respect, I'd want to use the Taliban's as my securities.
If not the Taliban's almost agressive as they're.

i think her name is Karen. every town has one. i think they clone them in a test-tubes and impregnate them into feminists

I would make sure it has a gayborhood, every place needs one.
https://rumble.com/vrvfmo-when-you-accidentally-walk-through-the-wrong-gayborhood.html

Well, one can argue that'd be artificial selection, as anybody capable of believing a single word that comes out of that guy's mouth is a serious candidate for the Darwin Award. But, yeah, I get your point and agree with it.
In December 2004, Gary Webb, reporter who uncovered a conspiracy by the CIA to smuggle cocaine into the US, "committed suicide" by shooting himself twice in the head, and nobody thought much about it. There was even a documentary  film in 2014 ("Kill The Messenger") about the whole thing.
Clinton categorically said he "did not have sex with that woman!" and we all know how that ended, don't we?
Obama said "he wasn't aware" of what happened at Gitmo and Abu Ghraib, and everybody chose to believe him. Not ONE of the torturers on either site is in prison.
Bush almost bankrupted the country by re-entering "Daddy's War" under false pretenses, and nothing happened.
Yet Eliot Spitzer (incidentally after raising a stink about what would become the 2008 crisis) had a party with some hookers, and they hung him by the balls.

Yeah, politics are a dirty game...

partially agree with this..
however its the accounts of spending that should be made public for the public funded 'servants/contractors'. this does not mean everything they do in life should be made public. EG no laws prohibiting public servants from using window curtains. i know some people want to know what public servants genitals look like or how many hip thrusts it takes for a public servant to ejaculate. but this is not anything to do with the use of public funds

no one should have their personal lives made public..

the thing i find completely sad about modern democracy in politics.. a public servant can be made/forced to resign over petty things like cheating on a spouse or making an inappropriate joke. but if that same public servant lied about something political or caused harm to citizens by using his role to make something jokable/harmful as official policy. he is not made to leave office.

EG trump was not put on trial for telling people to drink bleach or eat lightbulbs..(affects and harms general public)
yet other politicians lost their positions for having extra marital affairs(nothing to do with general public)

make a comment about jewish people where no jews are physically harmed . resignable offence
make a comment about wanting to bomb another country(N.korea/middle east) because of their religion/culture. no action

I think in my own world, liberal democracy would have been practiced. And will be no bride price but they must be approval by the parents.

'Open'.  FULL transparency.  Society is what it looks like, and it looks like what it is.

 - People who make the choice to live off other people's 'taxes' either as 'public servants' or contractors have VERY limited privacy.  The systems developed for tracking the plebs can be turned around and re-purposed.

 - People who make their own living by supplying what other people want voluntarily have vastly more privacy protections than they enjoy in most current societies.

2000 years ago there were many civil wars. italy pretty much created the romans to fight against the many religions in neighbouring lands(egypt, africa, europe, middle east). the emperors and their scholars(later named priests and bishops) began making new laws. that lawbook became 'christian bible' by telling a different camp fire story about how the middle easts laws should be taught in story form at camp fires.

before christianity. rome was a republic, with a senate and a leader..  and even they had laws about what people should wear, though most of the laws were word of mouth not written scripture.
but when finally written down, even in christianity. they had female dress code too


christianity had 2 factions. the 'god fearing' and the 'peaceful god' groups. the god fearing were the extremists that would punish shave womens hair if they didnt cover it. it took hundreds of years to calm those extremists. many civil wars. and lots of fighting.

so christianity has had its extremists too. even today in modern times there are still sexist idiots using the bible to popularise that men are better then woman, thinking a christian womans place is in the kitchen

Sharia law is the most authoritarian form of religious governance. Protecting women by beating them if they disobey their spouse, or forcing them to wear head garments, sounds very democratic. Unsurprisingly, every Islamic theocracy there's been has turned into a hell hole.

For starters no politician, they are nothing but parasites making a good living form others hard work.
It is nothing but crazy paying somebody who then tells you what you can and can not do. There is no law but creator laws and thats it.

I will prefer small Society because it will be easy to handle and control, you can easily set law. I will prefer Sharia law because it give comfort to everyone in the society and no one is Above the Law, Muslim Christian Jewish etc. Anyone who live in a society where there is Sharia law, and they will be safe from any harm. Women will be respected, children will be discipline, marketplace will be conducted well, transaction will move smoothly no corruption, no harassment etc.
Note: Sharia law cover all aspect of life from the beginning to the end.

I like this question and your ideas.
I'm American  and  grew up watching Star Trek so the ideal and example of equality and respect for differences was something I took for granted (and mistook for truth).
The idea of non-conquering exploration, science as a way of life, merit of skill and experience combined with the individual as being part of a larger "whole"...
because no matter how remote you are the choices of the rest of the world (and universe) affects you.
For now we can only strive to rise to those ideals.

My imaginary society would be structured like Star Trek Discovery but in a time without need for political structure (or wars to fight) and love for or non belief in God would never be used as weapon against each other.


In reality, if we little people held our governments accountable to us and created laws slanting towards people instead corporate interests: collectively, we might thrive more quickly
but here we are in the age our ancestors will look back on and... wonder why we didn't do better or with the forgiveness of knowing we simply hadn't evolved past our egos yet
and did the best we could with the mental capacity we were working with? ;-)

the way the big guys do it. they break the area into regions and have a representative for each region that control the region.. the question then becomes. does this representative represent the communities wishes. or the leaders wishes.

the corruption is when the representatives represent the leader not the populous, to over control the community to the point of corruption. or when the representatives represent the populous too lax that they look away from law breaking and despirado's

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so its not a matter of how big a community is. but about its representation/leader.. is the representation too controlling or too lax

I will rather create a small society that can be controllable by me because there is no point in having a large community that you cannot control.
Leading a large number of people is always very difficult,and hard to do,therefore a small society of reasonable people is accepted by me.

Corruption in the society today is not coming from a small society,because a small society has rules and guildlines that people live under,but a large society is full of law breakers and despirado's.So a small society is much preferable by me.

If I should  create my own society it will be the society of small one so that I'll be able to regulate the society to my own taste. It will be a society of good conduct and everyone will exhibit good lifestyle.

careful what you wish for NRA will translate that to be:
'we love guns so show us your compassion and let us shoot where we please'


equal rights for all man..
                ..for all man..
                         ..man..
i think your missing something

Awesome, love this!