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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on December 15, 2022, 07:30:50 AM

After all I won't be bothered by quote other users quoting posts of users I've ignored, I also won't bother reading posts of users I've ignored even if he's quoting mine. It's the way it should be.

Interesting point, if you have an ignored user, you will not be able to read a post from him that he quotes you and may even distort what you say.

You may not actually read this message, but other forum users will, even if he talks badly about you. You won't be able to answer - because you don't know.

But, it doesn't exist for you either, it's not really a problem. Now others don't know if you ignored them or not. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Lucius on December 15, 2022, 06:41:09 AM

Some people are bothered by rather unimportant things, and I think this is one of them. There are forum members who have hundreds or even thousands of members on ignore, and my advice to the OP is to add to ignore those members who quote members who are already on his ignore list Roll Eyes

LOL, I hope that's not the best advice for the OP, but if the users quoting them don't differ much from different users then it can't hurt to ignore both.

After all I won't be bothered by quote other users quoting posts of users I've ignored, I also won't bother reading posts of users I've ignored even if he's quoting mine. It's the way it should be.

Quote from: Lucius on December 15, 2022, 06:41:09 AM

What is certain is the fact that many abuse the quote option, and it would really be good if there were some rule about it.

Pyramid qoute, is that what you mean?

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Some people are bothered by rather unimportant things, and I think this is one of them. There are forum members who have hundreds or even thousands of members on ignore, and my advice to the OP is to add to ignore those members who quote members who are already on his ignore list Roll Eyes

What is certain is the fact that many abuse the quote option, and it would really be good if there were some rule about it.

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Quote from: RapTarX on December 14, 2022, 05:31:26 PM

I knew it from long ago but today realized that ignore option doesn't serve its purpose.

I think that's has met its intended purpose from the ignore user feature, meaning you've ignored user you should ignore but of course you wouldn't automatically ignore his/her posts cited by other users.

So far I haven't had a problem with this, but I don't know why you would be bothered by it. If you ignore the user, then you shouldn't be reading his post even if it's quoted by another user, it makes more sense to me. I would just wonder why you should read it even if it's quoted by someone else.

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Quote from: RapTarX on December 14, 2022, 05:31:26 PM

I knew it from long ago but today realized that ignore option doesn't serve its purpose. If we put someone on our ignore list, his/her post isn't visible. But when someone else quote the ignored user, it gets visible which I guess doesn't make any sense. Why don't we have the option to ignore someone permanently in such a way that we don't see their post without removing them from our ignore list?

Ignoring a user does not delete the user's memberships from the server. It just tells the system, so that user's posts do not appear when you are reading a topic.

In turn, everything that each user writes in their post is their responsibility, whether it is a quote from other users or not.

Speaking in a more technical way without being complex. We can say that for the site, the quote is not from the other user, it is from the user who posted it. For the site, qoute is just a function to highlight a text, and which allows you to create a link to another post or site.

Therefore, when I quoted your post, that content is mine, I can edit, change or replace it. Referring to its origin. But I have all the power to touch this content, not you, because this post is mine.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on December 14, 2022, 05:39:47 PM

It's visible because it's someone else's post.

You can't have all user posts getting hidden just because the quoted part of the text from someone whom you ignored

Quick question; why bother reading the posts or quotes if you already ignored the user?
It's like continuing to pip at someone and yet you did want anything to do with them Grin

Perhaps the user reads through every post in the thread and might happen to inadvertently stumble across someone that quotes the ignored.

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Ignoring someone is fine and cool but to make their post invisible when someone quote their post is somehow not helpful. The post of the one that quote your ignored user will be questionable and meaningless since you don't know what they responded to and you won't know where the conversation is heading to. Implementing this feature will cause confusion in the forum IMO.

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Quote from: RapTarX on December 14, 2022, 05:31:26 PM

But when someone else quote the ignored user, it gets visible which I guess doesn't make any sense.

Well, think it like this: you block person1 number in your phone. You talk with person2. And person2 tells you "you know, person1 said this and that".
We have the same situation here too.

Now, if person2 talks more about what person1 tells than anything else, then you can consider blocking/ignoring person2 too. Else, no biggie.
However, not a bug.

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I believe it will be difficult to implement and it is a non-issue. How many times do you browse through the forum and see an ignored users post visible through quote, i don't think it can happen frequently, except it's a member who ignores many good posters for reasons other that the quality of their post, then you may see a lot of their quoted posts because your ignored users are active in popular sections and many forum members interact with them.

But if you ignore only shitposters who are known to post very bad posts in the bounty section, off topic board or very far away from sections that good posters go to, you may never see their posts again, even through quotes.

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I don't see a problem with this. It's not often that you'll be shown a quote from someone you want to ignore. Mostly, these are trolls or bad posters, and I think that users pay minimal attention to their posts. On the other hand, as previously suggested, if you happen to see posts from a poster you dislike, you may have a chance to reconsider ignoring it. Well, or just put on dark glasses and pass by.

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Quote from: RapTarX on December 14, 2022, 05:31:26 PM

Why don't we have the option to ignore someone permanently in such a way that we don't see their post without removing them from our ignore list?

I believe it is limitation of SMF forum machine. Furthermore, if you click on 'Check post history of this user', even you ignored that user, you will still see all of his posts in post history page.

So the ignore on a specific user works differently than when you ignore a specific board by using 'Ignore Boards Preferences' which will hide all posts in that board.

If a display name of one user is changed, the old display name will still remain the same in quoted posts. It won't be changed to a new display name. If theymos does make it for display / username changes, it won't be applied for quoted posts
It perhaps because it was coded like it intentionally but I am more keen on a first theory.

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I will leave this reply from suchmoon the same case/concern related to ignored/quoted post, posted a year ago.

Quote from: suchmoon on August 13, 2021, 07:38:16 AM

Someone who quotes your ignored user might have an otherwise useful post. It would be nice to have the quote of the ignored user to be collapsed (and while we're at it, collapse/reduce wall-quotes and large images too) but hiding the whole post would be too harsh IMO.

I see this as most appropriate reason why theymos don't snip/hide the post who quote the post of the ignored user.

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I would not hold my breath for this feature, as it would be technically very difficult to implement. There is no easy way to hide all quotes from an ignored user. Quotes can be edited, split, merged, changed... so, there is no simple algorithm that could take all of that into account.

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It's visible because it's someone else's post.

You can't have all user posts getting hidden just because the quoted part of the text from someone whom you ignored

Quick question; why bother reading the posts or quotes if you already ignored the user?
It's like continuing to pip at someone and yet you did want anything to do with them Grin

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It is the quote that is visible (when some quoted the ignored person)? If it is like that, the person did not ignore the person that quoted the ignored user, why should it not be visible? That would be wrong if not visible. It is what the person is posting that makes you to ignore him, not because someone is quoting him.

Some poor posters can become a good poster, this may even lead to the user that ignored the user to think otherwise if what he is later posting is good. The awareness may start from the quote. But there are other reasons a user is included on ignore list.

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I knew it from long ago but today realized that ignore option doesn't serve its purpose. If we put someone on our ignore list, his/her post isn't visible. But when someone else quote the ignored user, it gets visible which I guess doesn't make any sense. Why don't we have the option to ignore someone permanently in such a way that we don't see their post without removing them from our ignore list?

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