Topic: Illuminati End Game Started --- effects on BTC - page 8. (Read 16072 times)

Its an interesting website, the logo looks like a brain in a box, which seems very apt to me. From what I've looked at so far you can conclude that yes, every conspiracy theory is wrong (and a bit ridiculous).

Do you even know how crazy that sounds? How can bitcoin give a shit? Are you talking about the  bitcoin community? For all we know bitcoin is part of illuminati's propagenda

Nobody really knows

As for the bitcoin market, it's been like a week and bitcoin is still around $300

Yeah, I like that website.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Holocaust_deniers

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/New_World_Order

No, but seriously. You're going to come out with a claim the Paris shooting was clearly fake and those who believe it wasn't must be brainwashed, and when confronted about that with personal experience on the matter, all you can say is "WHY U SO BUTTHURT"? Really? What is this about for you - truth or trolling?

Because one would hope he might not end up having to take daily neuroleptics for the rest of his life.

Why even bother. When your delusional the truth is of no help. His grand conspiracy will accommodate any facts that enter the picture. If he can't get the round peg into the square hole then the hole must be part of the secret plot to get him.

The guys was calling for help. Retard.

I still haven't got a smartphone. It's starting to ruin my game lately. 2 hot babes have already pointed out that I need a new cellphone (smartphone) because apparently I couldn't accept their friend request on facebook right away . One even laughed when she saw my Nokia 6600i slide. I have promised myself that I will get myself a smartphone when it comes as open source (software and hardware) and I could run Linux on it and SSH from my PC to my smartphone.

Smartphones are bad. People are more socially isolated than ever before, and this is one reason among many for the sub-replacement fertility rates. We have no community.

Thanks for the reasoned response. My post was 'strong' as I did not think you would be very open to it. I am glad to be proven wrong . I don't belive I am suffering from too much perception bias here, as I have already been questioning the official story from the moment I heard there was a Syrian connected passport showing entrace thru Greece next to one of the suicide bombers ... an odd thing to take with you if you do not intend to come back. Maybe it was planted afterwards, maybe it was meant to be found. Apparently it was a fake anyway ... the plot thickens ...
I have read somewhere ISIS are allegeldy not too keen on Muslims fleeing to Europe, so perhaps closed borders is something both sides actually want here. Not enough (reliable) information to know.
I would have questioned things even without that, but it was one of the first things I read ...


To me the attacks are without doubt being used to further nationalist agendas, such as closing borders and (at least in the UK) justify futher surveillance measures. That comes as no surprise - it's politics and spin, and perhaps (some of it) even a justifiable response, but it's not enough on its own for me to question negate the narrative.
At the moment, my opinion is that the attacks are the inevitable result of events set in motion by Western policies after 9/11, and immigration and other policies predating that by decades. You keep poking the bear, its gonna attack (might sound simplistic, might even have been intentional, who knows?)

As for the deeper veins running through this, who funded whom and when, unintented and intended consequences ,the religious aspects  etc that have been running for centuries, I find it impossible to untangle the situation and form a firm opinion. All I can say is that I think we are arriving at a pretty ugly crossroads now and that it is very hard to see a simple way back or a peaceful way forwards.

All pretty depressing to be honest.

In a way, the people who manipulate narratives are no different to those who manipulate markets. The seedy underbelly of the financial markets is a form of violence in itself, with abuse of power, and manipulation of emotions and information the weapons. They have always existed and always will, on both sides. It's just one aspect of human nature and the lust for power and the lure of ideologies. Has there ever been a was fought by two sides who did not think they were absolutely in the right ?
As you say, almost everything has the element of subjectivity. I am just trying to stand back and keep a reasonable perspective in order to stay sane, and not get caught up in the sabre-rattling of those who would like to control my thoughts for their own benefit

Its the play of life unfolding before our eyes, shaped by the energy of everything that has come before and probably leading to an almost predetermined place. Oh to be able to step outside of it all, and look down from far above to see the direction of these many forces that are guiding us and where they will likely lead. Life has 'inertia'. To me this is more interesting to look at than to point fingers, as mostly I don't see the significance of the individual actors so much. They are just the ones that picked up on the nuances of the existing time and rode the wave to great power and/or destruction. If it was not them, it would have been someone else. A confluence of time and place and circumstances that inevitably  leads people to gladly give away their power/join a particular cause. History rhyming again and again at different orders of magnitude. Subconscious energies playing out in relatively predictable ways. Those energies are more important to understand (to the degree that that is possible) than the words that are spoken and the minutae of the events they precipitate. People are always very eager to point to finger of blame outside of themselves, thereby admonishing themselves of responsibility, ignoring the real demons that lie within, which are the root cause of most of their own problems, and the problems in the outside world IMO. Until that changes, well, nothing much is going to change ...


TLDR: Until we sort our own shit out, nothing much is gonna change  

The only thing the nazis did wrong was lose. Because the winner is ALWAYS right and the loser is ALWAYS a monster. Find me one major counterexample from history if you think you can.

If the nazis had won then they would have been in the right and we (you) would have been the evil ones.

If we want to evaluate right and wrong (and you clearly don't) then we need to look at what actually happened from an outside perspective. But that would be pointless on this board.

Thanks for getting my point about being critical and actually considering the "evidence" instead of starting yelling insults right away. As for the perception bias, same thing could have affected you. It's easy to criticize just about any theory if you want to. My agenda is not to convince you that something I say is the ultimate truth. My agenda is to make you question the official story. You have to admit that there is something fishy about all this ISIS and migrant crisis. How we find out the truth? We poke holes into each other's theories and eventually come to an objective understanding. Without your criticism I would only have my subjective understanding of this situation. Now, thanks to you, I have pros and cons for both stories. Take the role of the devil's advocate to truly understand something.

Not sure how this will effect bitcoins

I haven't watched the links yet, I'll check it out in a bit

I don't even think Bitcoin actually fits the NWO agenda. Besides the fact that it's essentially a central bank killing application, among other things, it came out as open source.  Only a suicidal banker would give out the keys to the kingdom.  Whoever created Bitcoin essentially viewed it as ultimate transaction freedom whether we're talking about money or data.  The idea that NWO came up with Bitcoin probably came straight out of the NWO.  It's a red herring.  Complete Fallacy in reasoning.

Like I said, unless the Bankers all just decided to give up all their power, it doesn't make any sense

To be honest, at the very begin I was thinking, David Icke is somehow crazy. But as more information I gather here I’m getting scared…

So, you want us all to do critical thinking. Well, I watched that first video you posted and I have these probelms with it, amongst many others :

Commentator claims that scene is 'floodlit' ... - look closely and you will see that those lights are at exactly the same height as the the one next to the window at the front of the scene (which happens to be broken/switched off. Make a stroy out of that if you wish) . They are street lights attached, erm, unsurprisingly, to the side of a buillding on a narrow street

The most intersting part of the video was from about 3:50 to 4:15 where it is looks very much like the lady has her feet on bars on the windows below and that is how she is able to 'hang' there and why here body it at the angle it is.
As soon as she is pulled up you can clearly see her feet move from the level of one of the crossrails on the security grate of the window below. There is no way to rule this out from that video.
As for what she is holding on to - it is totally impossible to rule out that there was a lip on the ledge above that helped here hold on, or even a hook of some sort. You simply can't see this or rule it out. But if she indeed has her feet on a rail, the 'lie' is that she was 'hanging' as technically she was not, and remaining in that position would not have been easy, but possible, more so if your life depended on it.

As the for the alleged 'selife', who are you to say and know what he is doing on his phone? Clearly he is not a 'DEAD MAN' as you state. Who, other than you even claimed he was dead? Injured and calling for help perhaps ...attempted dying call to a loved one perhaps. Calling it a selfie is well, pretty narrow-minded IMO. And why no flash if Selife?

Your capitalized points above, that are supposed to persuade us of your 'case' read like second rate tabloid headlines. Designed for impact, but with very little substance behind them. And according to you we are all 'morons' if we don't believe them  . More sensationalism ...

Nothing in this video provides the conclusive proof required for your extremely bold claims, as anyone who is prepared to actually look closely and not listen to your narrative or the commentators can see.

As for the smoking a cigarette, clearly they are getting ready to enter the scene - one is just putting his gloves on, and they are standing next to their van. Que surprise, someone having a last minute smoke b4 putting on gloves and mask and getting to work. Really not sure how this suports your theory in any way whatsoever. Man smoking before working ... Wow, who'd have thunk it. Unprofessional for a Forensic Analyst, maybe. Smoking gun ... not at all.

So, go back and watch the video, with your eyes, not your ears and with a mind free of what you want to see in it and actually look at the details. After that come back and say it is cannot be so if you wish. (HINT: just in case you have not done so, try watching it on a monitor rather than a phone or tablet - nothing is discernible on a small screen. Use that microscope )

Like you, the commentator has already made up his mind before watching the video and does not evn entertain that possibility or propose what are without doubt, realistic alternatives. He, like you, is simply trying to fit the events into his predetermined view of what has happened. He maybe be so blinded by paranoia that he is unaware that this is what he is doing, but that is how it comes across. It's called 'perception bias' - only looking for evidence that supports your pre-determined ideas and ignoring the rest. Can be happening at a conscious or subconscious level.

FWIW I would never deny that TPTB spin events to suit their agendas - I am not that naive, and its pretty damn obvious to anyone who is half awake, so pleae don't smear me as another sheep that blindly believes the mainstream narrative of every world event. I also don't blindly believe 'conspircay theorists' either. There is certainly good evidence to support some theories, but in this case, you are gonna have to do a much to better job to convince me.

Kind of ironic that you started this thread with talk of an Illuminati agenda and have then proceeded to push your own agenda as hard as possible.

Me too. It's deceptive. Truth seeker is a much more appropriate term for the people who --- amongst other things --- investigate conspiracy theories.

Is internet good or bad?  What about smartphones - good or bad?

Bitcoin?

Btw, for the conspiracy theories, which sometimes later prove to be conspiracy fact, I'm with Hyena, though I dislike the word conspiracy as it's not really the appropriate word.

Yes, most of the people in here are able (and they already did it with alt-currencies) to recreate bitcoin.

Agreed.

And you point out something extremely important: all the major technologies we have come from warfare research. Shall we discard them today? OF course not. This is how technology goes: we can't stop it as it is now. But, for God's sake, let's use it for the better.