Topic: I'm done? Far from it! - page 4. (Read 12223 times)

Nah, it's ,sadly, just common within the furry community for some reason. Don't know why it attracts those types, but there are a lot of somewhat lazy nerds without degrees, shit jobs, and no drive in there, who blame their life outcomes and awkard personalities on everyone else. It's not the majority, by far, but "furries" with actual degrees and professional level jobs (tech support is not a professional level job) are rather rare.

Heh, furries... Drama, blame others first, and total lack of drive/fighting spirit. You're being an embarasement to sleazy business finance foxes everywhere (weird, but true, almost all finance/business types in the furry random I've met were foxes). When shit hits the fan, don't say "fuck you, I'm leaving," say "fuck you, I'm busting through and will keep going despite you." Also, sorry to see you go. Guess we'll see you in a month or two.

LMAO that made me laugh.

But yes I'm not going to repeat the advice I gave you, OP, in another post of mine but I'd like to say this:
You need to stop blaming others and stop feeling sorry for yourself. Todays world is incredibly competitive and you get NOTHING for free in this life. You complain about only having a part-time job.... well get yourself back into school and learn some practical skills that will get you a well paying job.
I see many people in the UK whining about having no jobs or money... and generally thats because they haven't bothered trying to get one or failed all their GCSEs (of course some are just unlucky). I HATE this attitude that other people or the state should babysit people throughout their lives. Some people actually need help but others just can't be arsed. So as I said: get off your ass, get into school/college, get some GOOD qualifications with job prospects. Sitting and moaning about how shitty your life is isn't going to get you anywhere. Grabbing your life by the horns and doing something about it, on the other hand, will get you far in this world.

Frankly I blame consumerism for this attitude.... I want this car, I want these shoes, I want this laptop.

Sorry for my harsh response but I'm fed up of this type of attitude and I've never seen a lazy whiner who earns himself a good living.

loganrysche, to be 100% honest here, you deserve to fail. You cannot take criticism or advice, lack basic common sense, and then blame the community for your failures.

People complain about your prices being higher and you bitch at them. They complain about your site not keeping up with exchange rate fluctuations and you get all defensive, saying that you don't know how to code  a script and can't pay someone to do it, and can't be expected to do it manually. Well, yes, if you can't write a script or hire someone to do it, you SHOULD be doing it manually, or not operating the site in the first place. It's not the community's fault they don't want to overpay for a gift card when they already have the inconvenience of waiting a week for it to be mailed. You even complained about the *hassle* of setting up a .com domain for your online store after someone complained fei.x10.mx didn't look professional. You bitch that you can't afford a .com domain name. What the hell are you doing running a store in the first place?

You blame the community "hoarding bitcoins" as the reason your site was not successful. Hell, people complain about your inability to see that 10% of ($5, $10, $15) is not a flat $2 and you blame the school system.

I mean, look at this:


Now you're just delusional. When you launched your sorry excuse for a 'site' you were given plenty of criticism. And you then had the audacity to sell your services, saying "I can build such sites. Not everyone knows how to build these sites and/or set them up to run correctly. My rates are reasonable and my work is professional.", demonstrate exactly how unprofessional and incompetent you are, and you expect people to flock to your site?

Take some fucking responsibility, get your life in order, and stop trying to turn Bitcoin into a business when you have zero business sense and no startup capital and blaming everyone but yourself for your failures. If you need a car, work and save up for a car. Instead of bitching that the community 'doesn't trust you or is hoarding coins' and caused you not to get that '94 Explorer you wanted, how about recognizing that you shouldn't have sunk hundreds/thousands of dollars buying inventory for a site you don't know how to run or operate that isn't even initially hosted on a proper domain, and take on a shift or two at Quiznos.

I really hope the OP cools down abit and reads the REALLY useful advice offered in the majority of replies.

Sorry to hear it didn't work out.

If one thing, this thread has given me some hope. Not because of your failure but because of how much positive response there was to it. How many serious threads have you seen lately where the replies outweighs the trolling? Even more, understand and empathetic replies with valid feedback.

And with regards to your site, there's so many things to take into consideration. The hoarding might not help things but cards are a small market, bitcoin is a small market, repeat buyers who will keep you afloat by themselves is probably even smaller. The more precise you get within an already relatively small market, the smaller your share of it will be. I don't see how it would have even been possible for that store to be a success based on how specific it it is, unless you had access to some really rare stuff, had competitive prices within that limited market, were able to advertise to a broad enough audience and stay open long enough for the word to get around...

Every failure is a lesson which will get you closer to success. You don't just "succeed". You learn to succeed. Every failure is just a sign that you're getting closer, as long as you're willing to learn from it and accept some criticism.

I hope for you that you're able to take a step back, look at the big picture and extract what you needed to learn from this. Leave the bitterness behind and translate that to enthusiasm thinking that next time around, you'll do X and Y differently and can't wait to see what the results will be, hopefully better than the first and lead to an even more successful third attempt.

I'm currently working on a site to help promote bitcoin and merchants that accept coins. Hopefully it wont be a total failure but regardless of how much it cost me and how much dev time I spend on it, I'm learning while doing it and knowledge is priceless.

It was just an off the cuff example after I wrote the beginning of that post. I'm now onto rocks. Try to stay up with me. 

Thats mostly because its funny I think. It has potential to become a short lived hype, which is great if they pull it off, but it has no long term future IMO.  Or not more than alpaca socks sold in dollar; perhaps Im underestimating that market I got no clue lol.

Yea, it is!



Proof-of-work: No two stones alike or weigh exactly the same. They never lose their value.

Hedge your Bitcoin! Wait! That's what I'll call it: StoneHedge

Ha thats an awesome idea

Sorry man but I don't want to get involved in the trading Magic and Pokemon cards business because it's not now or ever going to generate a good cashflow. It's fun as a side business or a hobby, but don't expect you'll be able to live off of selling cards. Very few people are lucky enough to pull that off. How are you planning to make a profit? Website hosting costs money, buy new stock, you must sell your merchandise, you must ship it (postage fees), shipping materials... I don't see the big breadwinner hog in all this. Sorry!

Brain Fart II: http://www.ehow.com/how_5566363_engrave-rock.html  How hard could it be to engrave the Bitcoin symbol on a rock? I can sit here all day (but not today, for I'm putting myself in position to fail) and come up a 1,000 ideas like this one. That is not an exaggeration!

No offence to you but its called business. This type of thing happens all the time so you cant be mad at the consumer for going for the cheaper product.
Plus your site wasn't professional looking despite what you say. You left default Zen cart messages in and never create a nice design. I realise you said you are not a PHP coder but you could have atleast put that you also accepted bitcoins on the homepage. From what you have described it seems the ONLY way to know that that site accepted bitcoins was to actually get to the checkout which is just simply awful design. I expect if you had asked someone here they could have set it all up for you for free.

Secondly it sounds like you put everything you had into making bitcoins your main source of income... for starters that was kind of a stupid idea... Bitcoins are a rather big gamble in the business side at the moment so you should never put in more than you can afford when gambling.

Also you don't sound like a stupid person... why don't you go to college and get some good qualifications to get a good job instead of your minimum wage one. You can't whine your way through life, you have to improve yourself... you can't expect everything to be spoon fed to you. I feel like this is the problem with society these days; everyone thinks they deserve a huge house and loads of money just because they exist. So go to college and do a good course with actual job prospects at the end of it... not some stupid mickey mouse one. It looks like you have to take a good look in the mirror and stop blaming other people for your misfortunes.

Don't get me wrong I do feel bad for you, but it looks like you have just had a crash course in business and failed miserably lol. As someone else said, people were probably under cutting you because they bought in bulk... thats how business is done. Cards are also a very niche market... and I doubt most of the bitcoin users would want to buy them. And no one in their right mind is going to buy a voucher for more than than its worth... or atleast at the price you were selling them for.


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Thats why you buy in bulk. Selling stuff on the internet generally has fine profit margins, especially for cheap products, because the postage is so expensive. Your business model was totally screwed from the outset I'm afraid because it wasn't sustainable.


Just because people say they like the idea of your site it doesn't mean they'll actually BUY anything off it.

You should do like every other successful American company and buy Chinese goods and sell them at a mark-up.

I have done a small amount of selling of chinese gadgets dipping my toes in the water through drop shipping. Drop shipping allows you to offer products at a marked up price without even buying the product or needing to store them.

Here is one item I used to sell:
http://www.chinavasion.com/product_info.php/pName/spy-pen-pinhole-video-camera-motion-detection-micro-sd/

A Spy Pen with a video camera. The thing costs $28 wholesale, plus probably around $12 shipping from China. You charge $45 for it and get a $5 profit. The work you put into it is putting it on your page and then when the purchase comes through you fill out the form and address of where it is shipped.

Here is someone selling this thing on ebay for $46:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Spy-Pen-Pinhole-Video-Camera-Motion-Detection-Micro-Sd-/180534553293?pt=Camcorders_Professional_Video_Cameras&hash=item2a08b2aacd#ht_5167wt_1396

The downside to it is that the products are Chinese made which makes them fairly susceptible to being dead on arrival or of low quality. Plus the shipping can take up to a month, you need to let people know that the product will take 3-4 weeks to arrive. Also, you are in competition with many other people who have access to the same product (if they are more successful, buying a lot of product the wholesaler gives them a lower price and they can offer the product cheaper).

The upside is you make money with little overhead and no upfront cost.

There's even a business model of selling every day stuff for Bitcoin, provided the model is sound. A sound model only needs a tad marketing, whereas a poor business model can not be helped with any  marketing.

Brain fart alert: Used Alpaca Socks ~ With a tad bit of marketing coupled with a decent price point (or versa visa), this idea can has legs.

See! A somewhat snide remark. The nugget: Pokemon and Yu-gi-oh cards are no longer in vogue. Question: What cards are a fad now? Jump on that bandwagon. Be the first to offer new cards when they come out before others do. http://www.tradecardsonline.com/

Look, I dont know you, or your history here, I dont even understand this gift card business (thats a US thing I assume), but its pretty clear you got it wrong when you thought any business would fly just because you take bitcoins. Asking people on a bitcoin forum if some sort of bitcoin business is a good idea, is by itself a bad idea. Of course most people will say "yes", they want bitcoins to take off. Thats no substitute for market research or common sense.

A business concept thats gonna fail in dollar is gonna fail in bitcoin. Exceptions might be specific bitcoin related services (exchange, bitcoin banking etc), but any real world trade in bitcoin is going to have to compete with the very same real world trade done in dollars. You might get small bonus from people here who are sympathetic to the idea and want to support bitcoin, if they are going to buy something they would buy anyway, they might prefer buying it with bitcoins so you might get away with tiny higher margins, but do you really think your store could possibly have worked if you sold in dollars? If not, you could have predicted the outcome.

Most everyone that has commented on this thread, has done so in a helpful manner related to your current situation. Even the snide posts offer up a nugget of valuable information.

That said, I'm offering you this link (and there's many more like it), for I feel that your problem may lie here: http://www.healthguidance.org/entry/5501/1/Learn-How-You-Can-Beat-The-quotDefeatismquot-Attitude.html

I, too, have failed in the past--many times. Each time I did, I blame no one but myself. Why? Because a wise man once told me... Hell! Allow me to express it with an image. If you don't get it, then I feel your problem is much deeper.



Today, I'm making a 10K gamble/decision that may not pay off. I'm not 100% certain that it will pan out, but I do know 100% that I will learn from it if it doesn't. I'm excited to see the results either way--success or failure. The worse part of this endeavor is that if it does fail, I'll have to cancel my beloved fishing trip. But I'm prepared for that also. The resort will keep the deposit, if I cancel. No bitterness on my part what-so-ever.

I hope this post helps you in some way.

Your friend, Bruno.

You're a few years late to the Pokemon and Yu-gi-oh party, who cares about those cards?

... you still thought people were going to buy items for more than they were worth.

Why would I buy from your site, when I can just go to Walmart and buy those cards and have them instantly in my hand for the same price you bought them for? People keep saying these things and other helpful things, but you're still pissed and you're still not listening. I mean hell, it's not even like you were trying to do a BitCoin laundering type deal, as I've said and others have said, there is nothing on your site that says anything about BitCoins. The entire site is in USD.

Everyone makes mistakes in life. But, if you can't learn from your mistakes, take advice on how to do it better, then use that to help prevail in your next adventures, then your life is really nothing more than one mistake after another.


For every troll, there have been 3 people who feel sorry for you and have offered advice. Good luck finding that in many places in life.