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Topic: I'm terrified, I lost all my savings in mtgox. (Read 5053 times)

member
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Hello,

We see that your transfer has been processed.  If you do not receive it by next week, please feel free to contact us again.  Our apologies for the delay and thank you for your patience.

I confirm that today I received my money.

I placed the withdrawal order on June 1, but I'm happy and can do BTC bussiness again.

Panda Mouse.

I'm glad it all worked out. But then again, mtgox shouldn't take so long time. Ugh.
sr. member
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If someone wants to cash out their coins with an express wire to arrive in your bank account same-day, just them to me. Make me an offer, lower rate then trading prices on MtGox, but same day in your bank account guaranteed. I do not want any MtGox codes, just Bitcoin transactions!
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Gliding...
Hello,

We see that your transfer has been processed.  If you do not receive it by next week, please feel free to contact us again.  Our apologies for the delay and thank you for your patience.

I confirm that today I received my money.

I placed the withdrawal order on June 1, but I'm happy and can do BTC bussiness again.

Panda Mouse.
member
Activity: 88
Merit: 10
Gliding...
Hello,

We see that your transfer has been processed.  If you do not receive it by next week, please feel free to contact us again.  Our apologies for the delay and thank you for your patience.

Thank you, I check the account daily Smiley
I will write immediately upon receipt of payment.

Panda Mouse.

donator
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see: https://mtgox.com/press_release_20120418.html
also note that you have to register your Dwolla account if you wish to use it for withdrawals, even if it's already linked for deposits.
member
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Hello,

We see that your transfer has been processed.  If you do not receive it by next week, please feel free to contact us again.  Our apologies for the delay and thank you for your patience.
newbie
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I hate it when companies just fog you off by saying "we're dealing with it", that means nothing to the customer. I hope this works out as thats scary, but sometimes wired can take a couple weeks :s
donator
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It's not good enough for Gox to say that they're working on it, they need to say what the problem is & when they expect to have it solved by & if they haven't yet done so to place a notification on their withdrawals page stating how long Wires & Dwolla are taking atm.
legendary
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Use Bitfloor. ACH withdrawals FTW
legendary
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full member
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Web Dev, Db Admin, Computer Technician
Why dont you use intersango?
That's offtopic.
legendary
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Why dont you use intersango?
full member
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Here's my logic:

What reveals a lot, is that wire transfers are lagging same as DWOLLA. If DWOLLA was the problem, but nothing else was, and the funds we gave to MtGox were [safely] stored in the bank, the wire withdrawals would be very fast. But since the wires are lagging, it is not unreasonable to say that there is a FRN shortage.

Under which circumstances could the FRN shortage occur? Exchanges are supposed to accept currency from actor A and bitcoin from actor B and match them up with each other, and take % from a trade. Not spend deposits, keep them as-is, even when at times it seems a good idea to use them, because they DO NOT BELONG TO EXCHANGE, exchange is holding on to them for their own safety and that is the only reason and purpose. If that was the way exchanges worked, there would be no circumstance under which either bitcoin or FRN shortage would possibly happen.

Then, how could FRN shortage occur? a) if funds were embezzled in some speculation. Or, b) if some sizable amount of FRNs was sized/frozen.

If there was a seizure, I would see no reason why exchange would not publicly say so. It's not their fault - bank or government took the money. Personally I would be screaming about it on every corner. Do we hear that? I don't. And the reason why is likely because it never happened.

That's my chain of thoughts on the situation, take it or leave it.

They got caught with their pants on the ground...
It was obvious, though they have tried to hide it now, they were paying only the withdraws that matched the income. The only reason to do this is so they could speculate in their own market with the pooled funds to managing the price or for profit. A few large withdraws are making this speculation, closer to fact.

If they are in fact operating that way, it isn't sustainable when income drops. The shortage becomes apparent when large withdraws appear. What's worse is they can't move Bitcoins they bought if it means selling them for a loss. This effectively locks those coins with a negative value, only giving them access to the break even and positive inventory. The more large withdraws that come in will subdue them until they get choked out.

Right now for Mt. Gox the best strategy is to ignore detractors, respond only to valid claims and focus on righting the listing ship.
sr. member
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Good luck... I am still missing $10,000 and it's coming up on a month now.  There's very strong evidence that MTGox does not have much in the way of USD and those with large withdrawals deposits are actually funding the smaller withdrawals.. the large withdrawers are going to end up shafted.



FTFY
that sounds pretty ponzi-like..

If true, yes.  However nobody has any real evidence, it's all just hearsay.

Here's my logic:

What reveals a lot, is that wire transfers are lagging same as DWOLLA. If DWOLLA was the problem, but nothing else was, and the funds we gave to MtGox were [safely] stored in the bank, the wire withdrawals would be very fast. But since the wires are lagging, it is not unreasonable to say that there is a FRN shortage.

Under which circumstances could the FRN shortage occur? Exchanges are supposed to accept currency from actor A and bitcoin from actor B and match them up with each other, and take % from a trade. Not spend deposits, keep them as-is, even when at times it seems a good idea to use them, because they DO NOT BELONG TO EXCHANGE, exchange is holding on to them for their own safety and that is the only reason and purpose. If that was the way exchanges worked, there would be no circumstance under which either bitcoin or FRN shortage would possibly happen.

Then, how could FRN shortage occur? a) if funds were embezzled in some speculation. Or, b) if some sizable amount of FRNs was sized/frozen.

If there was a seizure, I would see no reason why exchange would not publicly say so. It's not their fault - bank or government took the money. Personally I would be screaming about it on every corner. Do we hear that? I don't. And the reason why is likely because it never happened.

That's my chain of thoughts on the situation, take it or leave it.

Agree completely. I would never advise anyone to sell their btc on mtgox at this point in the game. I have never even tried to withdraw usd from mtgox, I have only bought btc. But just by reading the various threads about this issue on this forum, it really blows my mind that people are still returning to this exchange site to withdraw.
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www.btcbuy.info
Just have to mention that yesterday I received Dwolla funds from Mt. Gox. It took about 9 days but I have never not had my money show up.

Same here, but it's important to understand, it proves nothing. And it was 6 days a few days ago. And it was immediate a few months ago.

Seriously, I do root for MtGox. They are the great guys. They did for bitcoin a lot, much more than most of us know, they are one of the reasons bitcoin became what it is right now. But the signs are not good. I moved significant amount with them over last year, even at the time of crises, but with what's happening, I am wary to deal with them now.
member
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Just have to mention that yesterday I received Dwolla funds from Mt. Gox. It took about 9 days but I have never not had my money show up.
full member
Activity: 222
Merit: 100
www.btcbuy.info
Good luck... I am still missing $10,000 and it's coming up on a month now.  There's very strong evidence that MTGox does not have much in the way of USD and those with large withdrawals deposits are actually funding the smaller withdrawals.. the large withdrawers are going to end up shafted.



FTFY
that sounds pretty ponzi-like..

If true, yes.  However nobody has any real evidence, it's all just hearsay.

Here's my logic:

What reveals a lot, is that wire transfers are lagging same as DWOLLA. If DWOLLA was the problem, but nothing else was, and the funds we gave to MtGox were [safely] stored in the bank, the wire withdrawals would be very fast. But since the wires are lagging, it is not unreasonable to say that there is a FRN shortage.

Under which circumstances could the FRN shortage occur? Exchanges are supposed to accept currency from actor A and bitcoin from actor B and match them up with each other, and take % from a trade. Not spend deposits, keep them as-is, even when at times it seems a good idea to use them, because they DO NOT BELONG TO EXCHANGE, exchange is holding on to them for their own safety and that is the only reason and purpose. If that was the way exchanges worked, there would be no circumstance under which either bitcoin or FRN shortage would possibly happen.

Then, how could FRN shortage occur? a) if funds were embezzled in some speculation. Or, b) if some sizable amount of FRNs was sized/frozen.

If there was a seizure, I would see no reason why exchange would not publicly say so. It's not their fault - bank or government took the money. Personally I would be screaming about it on every corner. Do we hear that? I don't. And the reason why is likely because it never happened.

That's my chain of thoughts on the situation, take it or leave it.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
June 1 made a withdraw (international wire transfer) amount to nearly $ 9000.
So far, not received this amount at all, nor any response from mtgox on my query.

I am a teacher, I invested all my legal savings + a small% mined BTC on mtgox exchange.
Why I have no information when I get my last transfer?
Is it so hard to at least answer the simple question?

I do not know what to do. Mtgox not respond to my letters.

Panda Mouse.

Didn't anyone ever teach you not to place all your eggs in one basket??

even my measly $340 can't be paid by mtgox, so i think your fucked.

They got a cheap 8.5 grams of cocaine with that money, you aren't getting it back.

Ignore these idiots.  C'mon guys, there's no need to keep him from sleeping at night.

Dwolla is a PITA and has screwed over MtGox again.  You'll get your funds eventually, but they are really backed up.

Yes, you will get your funds it is just a matter of time, WE ARE WORKING ON IT!

By working on it, that means keeping the ponzi scheme going?
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1016
Strength in numbers
Yes, you will get your funds it is just a matter of time, WE ARE WORKING ON IT!

 Smiley

Thank you for your response and keep my fingers crossed for you - mtgox.

Panda Mouse.

Lol, capitals plus exclamation mark, I think you are going to be fine. Now if they had used 4 or more exlaimers it would be a lock.

member
Activity: 88
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Gliding...
Yes, you will get your funds it is just a matter of time, WE ARE WORKING ON IT!

 Smiley

Thank you for your response and keep my fingers crossed for you - mtgox.

Panda Mouse.
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