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So my question is, what has been the impact of Bitcoin market speculation on your Bitcoin/DCA approach on the Bitcoin accumulation journey?

If you're trading on Bitcoin speculation, you don't need to trade with DCA because speculation has zero impact on DCA. If you're trading with DCA, you shouldn't be affected by speculation and manipulation in the market. If your investment in the market is affected by them, then there is no point in trading with the DCA method. For this reason i do not understand your question. Because DCA requires buying Bitcoin on a regular basis, regardless of the price, regardless of the news.  Either you invest using the DCA method or you make an investment plan based on market speculation.
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The only impact bitcoin speculation can do is that we have to understand exactly when we are supposed to invest and when not invest in cryptocurrency because what i understand in cryptocurrency investment is that whenever you are holding your coin do not allow someone to deceive you to sell your coin and do not allow the speculation of people to make you to sell your coin when you have not make up your mind to sell your coin, and having target in any coin we purchase will have another good impact in Bitcoin if I'm not mistaken in Bitcoin investment.
I think there are also people who do a DCA strategy but at the same time speculating the market. Maybe it can help them decide if they will now sell or wait a little longer to gain more benefits. Before we start to invest, it's important to already know when to buy and sell. But the basic rule of investing is to buy low and sell high.

Speculating might still help us eventually. The one that you are talkin, about being deceived is I think the same as to FOMO on the FUDs. Indeed this should be avoided but there are always people who fall for it. They are often called as weak hands. If you are not confident enough about your speculating ability and you think someone is trusted and are good at it, maybe it's not wrong to follow them.

If you know how to be patient, you can easily apply one of the most basic rules of the market. That is, buy when the price is low and sell when the price is high. If you believe speculation and every news, even patience cannot save you from losing money.

I use my own judgment when investing. I follow the news about market events from people I follow. Usually the people I follow don't write about which coins to buy. If they wrote such an article, I wouldn't follow them because no one knows what will happen in the crypto market. Stay away from people who say "I told you so" when one of them is right after hundreds of predictions.
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The only impact bitcoin speculation can do is that we have to understand exactly when we are supposed to invest and when not invest in cryptocurrency because what i understand in cryptocurrency investment is that whenever you are holding your coin do not allow someone to deceive you to sell your coin and do not allow the speculation of people to make you to sell your coin when you have not make up your mind to sell your coin, and having target in any coin we purchase will have another good impact in Bitcoin if I'm not mistaken in Bitcoin investment.
I think there are also people who do a DCA strategy but at the same time speculating the market. Maybe it can help them decide if they will now sell or wait a little longer to gain more benefits. Before we start to invest, it's important to already know when to buy and sell. But the basic rule of investing is to buy low and sell high.

Speculating might still help us eventually. The one that you are talkin, about being deceived is I think the same as to FOMO on the FUDs. Indeed this should be avoided but there are always people who fall for it. They are often called as weak hands. If you are not confident enough about your speculating ability and you think someone is trusted and are good at it, maybe it's not wrong to follow them.
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In DCA, you do the buying regardless of the price. So whether the price is rising or falling, it doesn't matter. You don't analyze whether to take profit or to buy. That's not DCA. That's speculating and trading already. DCA is buying Bitcoin regularly regardless of the price movement.

I don't think we have to follow the way others DCA on their acquisition of coin. DCA is better when price is dropping so that when it rises you begin to see the difference in profit. Some people could still DCA when the price is increasing but I think that could be if they have seen the price is rising and probably going into bull while they don't want to stay outside the rally. Whichever way it is, DCA is for profit.
Both points are very on point as regards to individuals' DCA  movement,  also concure to the part were you also mentioned that DCA is best on the way down so that you can cash out the profits when the price increase this approach certainly placed you at an advantage of profits merging on the long run.


Moreover DCA works in both ways since in buying the dip you are taking the first step in DCA and when you sell all the way up you also practising DCA all the way up At that you make use of both market behaviour to your own advantage.
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So my question is, what has been the impact of Bitcoin market speculation on your Bitcoin/DCA approach on the Bitcoin accumulation journey?
I do not DCA. I mean buying every week. I only prefer to buy at low price for now. I am still expecting bitcoin price to fall to $20000 once again. But if bitcoin price did not fall below $20000 and it is getting close to halving, that would be a good time to buy.  

DCA can not pay for now for those that bought at $30000, but those that continue to DCA and wait till 2025 will make enough gain from bitcoin holding. Bitcoin has stayed above $30000 for a long time before falling, people that DCA around that price are losing now, but not loss if they do not sell their coins, they should continue to DCA which will bring the price for profit making down below $30000.

In this regard, I think it's feasible that Bitcoin's market value would fall by 20k$ to 22k$ dollars before gradually turning bullish again. This is the conclusion I've reached based on my examination of the price-value destination chart graph; this is the current prediction.

Now, the DCA is still a useful tool to utilize for those who just want to make a long-term investment or who want to preserve bitcoin until the bull season arrives. These tools, in my opinion, are still useful. And when its price decreases by $20,000, all the biggest cryptocurrencies will undoubtedly also decline, therefore there's a potential I'll raise another major cryptocurrency in this.
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In DCA, you do the buying regardless of the price. So whether the price is rising or falling, it doesn't matter. You don't analyze whether to take profit or to buy. That's not DCA. That's speculating and trading already. DCA is buying Bitcoin regularly regardless of the price movement.

I don't think we have to follow the way others DCA on their acquisition of coin. DCA is better when price is dropping so that when it rises you begin to see the difference in profit. Some people could still DCA when the price is increasing but I think that could be if they have seen the price is rising and probably going into bull while they don't want to stay outside the rally. Whichever way it is, DCA is for profit.
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The only impact bitcoin speculation can do is that we have to understand exactly when we are supposed to invest and when not invest in cryptocurrency because what i understand in cryptocurrency investment is that whenever you are holding your coin do not allow someone to deceive you to sell your coin and do not allow the speculation of people to make you to sell your coin when you have not make up your mind to sell your coin, and having target in any coin we purchase will have another good impact in Bitcoin if I'm not mistaken in Bitcoin investment.
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Is there any way to truly know the top? When people make comments about selling at the top and buying  at the bottom for a trending market, it always sound like complex to me because market can give several supposed tops within a short period. 

No there's no way any individual can predict the top of the market for the price of Bitcoin and also there's no way to know the bottom of Bitcoin. My approach to buying Bitcoin is like how most individual buy which is to DCA but I don't let any information that doesn't correspond with what the charts are saying affect my decision to buy more Bitcoin or to sell. Any individual allowing what others are saying about the price of bitcoin affect them isn't ready to buy Bitcoin.

Alot of things are always said about bitcoin but they don't know what they're saying because they don't have any real backing. People always make predictions based on how they're feeling about the market but that doesn't mean that's how the market is going to move.
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Yes, you can also sell using the DCA approach, but the same rules apply. You will do the selling regularly or in regular intervals regardless of the price.
Selling with a DCA approach will not seem much different from routine selling of the same asset, but I only use DCA when buying because it can help me a little in terms of getting Bitcoin at the price I really want. As for selling, I usually do it in two sessions or I divide it into two parts if I don't want to release everything into the market at the same time.

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I'm reacting to how DCA is done as if it is like trading, like when you think the price will go down further, then you will put off the buying and when the price looks like it will rise, then you will buy. I think this isn't DCA anymore. If you buy and sell depending on your analysis and predictions, how can this strategy be DCA?
The DCA strategy is a strategy that is currently very commonly used because it is known by many people, while what deviates from this strategy is a personal strategy that may not be included in DCA. So this is where we can see the difference and as long as each strategy used can be very profitable and there are no difficulties in implementing it, I don't think there is anything wrong with either of those things.
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I don't understand. If you are to DCA, then you don't speculate. To DCA is to buy Bitcoin in relatively small amounts in regular intervals, say, daily, weekly, every two weeks, bi-monthly, monthly, etc. as opposed to a lump sum purchase or an irregular buying pattern.
DCA is not only in the buying position alone because we can also DCA all the way up by selling our Bitcoin all the way up,  this formula work in both ways and can work for each it all depend on how you propelay take advantage of the market by your market analysis.

So I believe that you may have missed some of the fundamental understanding of the approach.
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In DCA, you do the buying regardless of the price. So whether the price is rising or falling, it doesn't matter. You don't analyze whether to taka e profit or to buy. That's not DCA. That's speculating and trading already. DCA is buying Bitcoin regularly regardless of the price movement.
Not only buying one can also DCA by selling all the way since DCA is just taking the dollar value of bitcoi,  the timing also is most important in DCA but more also to DCA, it requires a lot of market data to arrive at a good analysis of the market that can place you at advantage.

Yes, you can also sell using the DCA approach, but the same rules apply. You will do the selling regularly or in regular intervals regardless of the price.

I'm reacting to how DCA is done as if it is like trading, like when you think the price will go down further, then you will put off the buying and when the price looks like it will rise, then you will buy. I think this isn't DCA anymore. If you buy and sell depending on your analysis and predictions, how can this strategy be DCA?
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I don't understand. If you are to DCA, then you don't speculate. To DCA is to buy Bitcoin in relatively small amounts in regular intervals, say, daily, weekly, every two weeks, bi-monthly, monthly, etc. as opposed to a lump sum purchase or an irregular buying pattern.
DCA is not only in the buying position alone because we can also DCA all the way up by selling our Bitcoin all the way up,  this formula work in both ways and can work for each it all depend on how you propelay take advantage of the market by your market analysis.


So I believe that you may have missed some of the fundamental understanding of the approach.
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In DCA, you do the buying regardless of the price. So whether the price is rising or falling, it doesn't matter. You don't analyze whether to taka e profit or to buy. That's not DCA. That's speculating and trading already. DCA is buying Bitcoin regularly regardless of the price movement.
Not only buying one can also DCA by selling all the way since DCA is just taking the dollar value of bitcoi,  the timing also is most important in DCA but more also to DCA, it requires a lot of market data to arrive at a good analysis of the market that can place you at advantage.
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I don't understand. If you are to DCA, then you don't speculate. To DCA is to buy Bitcoin in relatively small amounts in regular intervals, say, daily, weekly, every two weeks, bi-monthly, monthly, etc. as opposed to a lump sum purchase or an irregular buying pattern.

In DCA, you do the buying regardless of the price. So whether the price is rising or falling, it doesn't matter. You don't analyze whether to take profit or to buy. That's not DCA. That's speculating and trading already. DCA is buying Bitcoin regularly regardless of the price movement.
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So my question is, what has been the impact of Bitcoin market speculation on your Bitcoin/DCA approach on the Bitcoin accumulation journey?
The big impact is when they stop buying because they run out of money and If they have a reserve level or USDT savings in their portfolio of course they can make purchases when prices fall. BTC has been below $30k this week so many of them are expecting a bigger drop to buy bitcoin but for those of us who buy every week of course we don't care if Bitcoin goes down again or goes up because we will still buy every week.

But some of those who are really geniuses in analyzing market movements will certainly be able to enter the buying stage instantly when they have found a decision to buy at that price. But I think the BTC price in September will experience a big strengthening of the increase because we are also tired of seeing this sideway condition.
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One thing that is certain that so far, buying routine is the best strategy for Bitcoin's ownership according to my version.
Although the statement of buying is cheap and selling high is an easy thing to say, it becomes the most difficult thing in its application.

I don't fully understand what you mean by regular purchases, but buying consistently for accumulation purposes is certainly recommended. Apart from that, you also need to pay attention to the market to know when it's time to buy, of course many people recommend that you buy on the dip. Accumulate as much as you can, but make sure that you really do the analysis before doing it.

Speculation doesn't make me change much about how I buy or accumulate, but market conditions are something I can take advantage of. Almost every correction can be used for accumulation, but I never force the desire to be close to consistent.
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Speculation has a clear impact on Bitcoin/DCA in my experience, often there is a temptation when the price of Bitcoin rises that I would sell to make some profits, but later I regret it when the price continues to rise.

Other times, when the trend is down, I sell to buy from the bottom, but unexpected behavior occurs and the price of Bitcoin rises, and I regret it again.

So I finally decided to stay away from indicators and continue with the Bitcoin/DCA strategy for the long term regardless of speculation and market volatility.
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Price speculation is not 100% correct but it can give one an insight on how to plan on his bitcoin journey and which strategy that he can use to accumulate more bitcoin. I prefer the DCA method,either when the price is high or at dip,because as a long term holder that doesn't want to make profit for short term, DCA will always give you the best benefit. This is because when you buy in any of the market,you steady DCA will balance up your loss when the price goes below when you bought. Although, buying at the dip is a way to accumulate at a discount price but you wouldn't see this coming.
That is true, if we do speculation then we could also make a trade or investment. Without speculation there is no investment or trade. If we think it will go up, we buy, we could buy it for short term or long term depending on our speculation but we still buy due to speculating the fact that we think it will go up, and if we think it will go down the same happens but this time about selling bitcoin, either for short term or long term.

In both cases, we speculated the future price of bitcoin and that is why it's very important to keep doing that in order to keep on buying or selling. Without speculation, there is no bitcoin, it would have no volume at all and it would not be liked by anyone and wouldn't be here.
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Price speculation is not 100% correct but it can give one an insight on how to plan on his bitcoin journey and which strategy that he can use to accumulate more bitcoin. I prefer the DCA method,either when the price is high or at dip,because as a long term holder that doesn't want to make profit for short term, DCA will always give you the best benefit. This is because when you buy in any of the market,you steady DCA will balance up your loss when the price goes below when you bought. Although, buying at the dip is a way to accumulate at a discount price but you wouldn't see this coming.
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For sure the market price is just full of speculation and its actually why the market price skyrocket because investors are speculating that the market price is going to reach like for example 100k$ if that specualtion circulate online that could easily trigger the market especially if there are a lot of evidence that it might be throught something like the Bitcoin halving.
DCA becomes a method of asset ownership activities because it is considered to reach the situation or reach the financial capabilities of investors both in weekly or monthly.
Speculation for most of the investors is an interesting effort to do. Although all can speculate on market prices, but not all dare to provide speculation. It means that only certain circles have a dare to speculate even though the increase and price decline cannot be ascertained.

One thing that is certain that so far, buying routine is the best strategy for Bitcoin's ownership according to my version.
Although the statement of buying is cheap and selling high is an easy thing to say, it becomes the most difficult thing in its application.
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So my question is, what has been the impact of Bitcoin market speculation on your Bitcoin/DCA approach on the Bitcoin accumulation journey?

I have never let myself get carried away too much by speculation, because my thing is long-term investment, which, strictly speaking is also speculation, because I speculate that investing in bitcoin in the long term will give me more profits and less headaches than doing it in the short term, and that in the long term the price will continue to rise.

What happens is that we tend to understand speculation as something short term, to buy or sell depending on whether you think it is going to go up or down, and I don't get carried away by that.

Bitcoin price speculation does not have any effect or impact on my dollar cost averaging pattern of investing in Bitcoin. This is because I do not pay attention to the price of Bitcoin while doing my weekly dollar cost averaging investment. It does not matter to me the price of Bitcoin whenever I want to buy because it is a consistent DCA.

I will continue to buy with the dollar cost averaging method until when the Bitcoin price is 50,000 dollars. That is when I will stop buying, in as much as the price is below 50000 dollars, I will continue the dollar cost averaging investment until after bull run or during the bull run. Knowing the the ATH of bitcoin is 69k, should give us the conviction to continue DCA even at $50k.
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When you have chosen the DCA approach to accumulate Bitcoin, that means you choose to regularly invest in Bitcoin, regardless of what the price is on the market, assuming the price of Bitcoin is still at a price that makes sense for you to buy. For example, the current Bitcoin price is in the $20k-$30k range, so that is the price you can buy.
The best DCA approach os to buy at the lower level and sell at the top of the price, it not good to buy at the top because doing so will affect your overall DCA strategy since you will eventually be at lose in the shot while when the price of bitcoin will nose dive to correct the market at that point.

And more also DCA approach is a parallel market approach and doesn't face one direction of buying Bitcoin alon but also you need to do both ways to get the best out of the approach which is buying and selling gaving DCA as you tool at every moment of action.
Indeed, it is the best DCA approach. But no one knows when the price will be at the bottom level. But if you refer to buying at the lower level and selling at the upper price, that's not a DCA strategy. That is trading.

Whereas DCA, as far as I know, is investing for a certain period, for example, 1 year, and you set to buy every week or month with the same amount of money for 1 year. So whatever Bitcoin price is when you buy, that is the price you get. If you average it, your average purchase price will probably be smaller. The goal of investing in Bitcoin is to collect as much Bitcoin as possible and not to sell it again soon.

As long as the price is still in that price range, you will still be doing DCA every week or month. But when the price goes to $ 30k- $ 40k, you have to rearrange the strategy but you may still do DCA every week. At least that's what I did with a small capital to collect Bitcoin.
Yea using smaller amount to DCA when price is relatively high is a good approach, at least you will nkt be left behind when if the price of Bitcoin continues to rise and also you will not be in too much lose if the price correct back suddenly.
DCA's approach is not to chase price increases but we routinely buy Bitcoin using the same amount of money every week or every month. And it also has nothing to do with changing market prices because you only focus on collecting Bitcoins.

And because your selling target is long-term, you don't need to worry about price movements. If it's still within that price range, you can continue the DCA until you feel you have enough Bitcoin or it's time to hold on and wait for the Bitcoin price to increase. But DCA strategy varies from one person to another and there are differences in the use of capital too. So as long as you still feel capable of doing DCA, just do it. But if you start feeling inadequate, it's better to stop doing DCA and look for other ways.
DCA approach is best for the long term only if you are approaching the market from the Bitcoin accumulation journey, This is long-term based and the approach will help you in collecting enough bitcoin in the long run.

But also we have some bitcoin speculators, a trader who uses the DCA approach to analyse and deal on the market price at each point by buying low and selling high.
You are not depending on Bitcoin speculators if you take the DCA approach. Your target lies not in price changes but in Bitcoin accumulation. By accumulating Bitcoin by buying Bitcoin every week or month, you can have more Bitcoin and not be selling it anytime soon. That's distinctly different from trading, where you buy low and sell high.
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