Topic: IMPORTANT! Always check your Seed twice. - page 3. (Read 652 times)

You're correct on the seed phrases getting exposed to the internet later but it's dependent on the kind of camera with which is being used to capture the seed phrases because not all camera gives the phone access to store files deleted on cloud and if it doesn't involve a camera that stores trashes for some interval of time before it gets exposed to cloud how will it be exposed and besides not all phones automatically stores photos on cloud.



I've done more important things, even passwords by rephrasing them for so many years now and believe me my brain captures exactly how I manipulated everything and I've never gotten any mixed up in the course of me rephrasing some important things that I don't want anyone to understand except me though your advice is welcomed. I know the reason why you assume it to be a bad culture because of if it involves a long time that I might forget how I rearranged everything but trust me I'm very good at remembering how I manipulated anything that's of importance to me even in the long run.


Though I don't do screenshots but however, I concur to your advice of running an offline backup on electrum of which I use electrum wallet and extending it with passphrase in other to generate different keys and addresses is also a welcome idea and I must say thank you for the advice.

The seedphrase is as important just like the money you have in the wallet and it should be treated very well because if their is anything wrong with the seedphrase it is impossible to have access to the asset in the wallet.  It is good to cross check the seed phrase very well after copying it down. it is necessary to check if their was any error in spelling or wrong position of the 12 word of the seedphrase. Most of us are so fast in collecting our seed phrase without giving it much attention.

In my daily routine, I always check my account's security, updates, notifications etc. just to make sure all things are safe now, even small details that you can overlook will now risk your information or even the asset.


Those days we want to make sure our wallets are safe we think of shuffling the words but let's be true most of us don't have the full capability to remember the things we made after weeks or months so i guess this idea could ruin yourself. I guess not only the seed but also the device we are using even though we say it's safe its different if you have another layer of security on it to prevent getting compromised most likely with the hot wallets, but if you are in cold wallets, natural occurrence is most likely your enemy.

It's like you actually saw what happened to me  because I have faced this kind of situation and just like you stated it, I even wrote the phrase down but didn't do a back check to confirm if the words are correct enough although at the first import of the phrase, I actually was minimizing my phone and checking the phrase I wrote on keypad and inputting it to the space on the wallet and after the wallet was successful created I wrote it down but unknown to me that the words I wrote down were not in the same order(spelling) and later found this out when I actually changed my device to which my wallet was and in puting the phrase to this new device the error of wrong phrase keep popping and believe it was like a nightmare I wouldn't want to relive so I tried changing some of words and luckily for me, it was a misspelled word that was the case for my own.

so doing a double check on seed phrase is something that worth it, you never can tell what error you might have made #dontbelazy

I haven't faced such an issue, and I know many of you will say that you haven't had such an issue in your entire crypto life. There are some reasons behind it; maybe you were too careful with the seed phrase. There could be another reason, but it would be terrible to be true. Perhaps you have taken snapshots of your seed phrases or copied and pasted them digitally, which is not recommended.

I am saying this because I am the one who used to do these stupid things, and I believe I have a lot of friends like this who do the same thing. FYI, I stopped it doing it. Even though this is not any kind of guide, but it was a good reminder for everyone.

Very valuable instructions. In this way, I believe the risk of writing the wrong wallet phrase will be greatly avoided. So far I have only focused on writing wallet phrases, without checking whether the code is correct or not. Maybe most investors have the same habits as me.

However, after knowing this method, it seems that I and members who read this post will no longer hesitate to create a new wallet. Things that seem trivial and rarely done, but are actually very important to do.

Thank you  for this tips. If one have not had this experience, one would not be able to understand the value of this thread you have created. Many people have made this silly mistake and it cost them their assets and funds which they could not recover till today.

I almost made this mistake sometimes last year and lucky enough I noticed the error in  one word of my key which was very hidden so I had to effect the correction. Immediately that I don't lose my assets in the course of saving it.

Checking your seed phrase twice helps alot because you never can tell if you have wrongly spelt a word possibly you interchanged a particular as alphabet that could not be noticeable while in a haste to save and begin using the wallet. Thanks to OP for this awareness.

Most wallets I've used require you to retype the seed again before you can generate addresses,  if the wallet does not ask you to do that, it is better not to use it. errors in the seeds are unlikely as long as you write the words in the correct order, as the words used are common compared to keeping the private key, which requires that it be created and written digitally, but prevention is better than cure and checking the wallet several times is better than regretting not doing so in the future.

This isn't even enough: you should check if the seed creates the same address again.

I prefer to test the seed with a different application. So when I setup a hardware wallet, I import the seed into Ian Coleman's software (of course running offline, air-gapped, running a Live Linux DVD from RAM, with the curtains closed on a computer that I'll burn in holy fire afterwards), and see if I can reproduce the same address by different means. It's a lot of work, but being thorough gives peace of mind.

This turns a hot wallet into an even hotter wallet. You're basically doubling the malware risk.

Maybe if the seed phrase is generated by one self? New crypto wallets today will tell you to verify after writing down your recovery seed, you will instantly know that you have the wrong words when you are going through verification.

So your recovery seed can't be messed up unless you later change the words yourself, but why would you? If you are the type that still generates recovery seed using paper wallet style then you are the one that need to be extremely careful, not someone who generate a new wallet using Electrum or Trust wallet, because verification of those words is what will follow.

I can't imagine how you can paraphrase 12, or even 24 words, and carry it all in your head. Probably, this person should have a phenomenal memory and confidence that nothing will ever happen to him. Although, can we know what awaits us even in an hour?
How often do we meet people who invent ways to store their seed phrases that are so stupid, and they subsequently suffer from their inventions? Everything simple has already been invented a long time ago; there is no need to go crazy.

That is why I like wallet like Electrum. After the wallet has generated you the seed phrase, you still have to input it using the virtual keyboard that Electrum will display. That is enough to know that the seed phrase that you wrote down on a paper for backup is correct and not wrong. Some wallet do it in the lazy way. It is good to verify and make sure the seed phrase are correct. I have done the mistake on Electum but I was able to know after I was unable to fully setup the wallet

Zaguru12 has corrected this already. It is not good to take the screenshot of your seed phrase. Just use a good wallet like Electrum and make your backup offline. Do not also rephrase your seed phrase, you can just extend it with passphrase. With passphrase, the wallet will generate different keys and addresses. Anyone that will need to access the wallet needs the passphrase. Backup your seed phrase and passphrase differently in different locations. Having like two or three backups each.

That's the kind of trouble you don't think about until it happens to you. Not the same case, but I have had a few problems with wrong passwords that took me several days also to solve, which is also a very frustrating situation.

I always check twice (at least) the digits of the addresses before sending any amount to them, but it is true that I don't give it as much importance as the seed, which is even more important in reality because that's what all the funds in the wallet depend on.

Next time I create a new wallet I'll do it the way the OP suggests: note down the phrase and recover from it. If there is any problem with the recovery, then forget about the seed and create a new one. Much better to realise it before sending any funds, that's clear.

Firstly taking a shot of that seed phrase is a bad because it can get exposed to the internet later, yes you might be using the phone offline at that time and later delete it but do you know that the deleted file will be save in your trash and later the deleted image will be exposed to cloud where most phones automatically store your photos?

Also rephrasing your seed phrase or even arranging them in any other order can be a security risk because you trust your head to remember how you got them arranged or rephrased and this can be mixed up later as it is bad culture to rely on your head to always remember things like this. You can just simply add passphrase to that seed phrase and store the passphrase somewhere else, this way even if someone gets access to the seed phrase without the added passphrase they can restore or recover your exact wallet

There are innumerable ways to safekeeping our keys and making sure they are in their correct check. On every new wallet I create  I normally write down my seed phrase on a paper note I dedicate for just that purpose (seed phrases only) and I make sure to use a pen with an indelible inking so it doesn't fade off with time. While writing it down I do number each of the phrase in their order just to avoid mix up and confusion thereafter.

It is the closing and relaunching of the wallet using the seed phrase immediately after it's creation is what I know I have never consider doing but borrowing from the Op I will have to add this in my list of procedures in my wallet seed phrase compilation and confirmation to ensure its a genuinely working seeds.

Yes this is true but we ought to keep the previous keys with cautiousness of were its been stored to avoid others from signing signatures with it and using it maliciously

Though I have not been affected by this but I will stick to this because I recently created a new wallet which I later forgot the password to my amusement and then I just the wallet cleared data on my device and input my seed phrase and thankfully it was a password not passphrase and so I was able to access my wallet.
Then  I ask my self this question, imagine if it was a passphrase, then the wallet is gone. I guess others who also forgot their password or passphrase never expected to forget such password /passphrase.
My advice on this would be when you creating a password or passphrase on your wallet or anything relating to finance use something that is really secure and you have use before don't just randomly try something new on them

What I normally do whenever I create a new seed is to snap it with another phone because I don't like stories that touches the heart as most times I normally create new seeds for several purposes so am always very careful with it. After snapping it then I write it down in my diary book and check very very carefully before I delete it from the phone though what I normally do most times is to rephrase the whole words in case someone incidentally gets access to my diary book and sees it so that's the safe way I normally do in other to protect my seeds.

This is the practical solution, without need to worry if you mistakenly wrote the seed.

AFAIK most of wallets asking you to input the 12-24 words to confirm if you've save your seed phrase and they also give a warning message if seed phrase is really important and don't lose it. So I guess with a common sense, people nowadays won't lose their seeds.

What people need to pay attention is don't intentionally forget or delete your old wallet seeds, you or someone might unintentionally send coins to your old address.

This is a good reminder. Even me if I ever created a new wallet I always likr 3 to 5 times checked every details on it cause in case something happened and your wallet got compromise with the device and you wanted to transfer it to new, youll need those keys again and if only one got gone wrong then the funds are dead for good so always make sure its complete and secure. This is one thing many have not yet taken importance.

Seed phrase are more critical than the physical wallet. If you lose your seed phrase, lose access to your coins. Whether you are using options like stainless steel or titanium plates it is important that you check again when you write it down. In fact when doing this, it shouldn't be at a time when in the day when you are most distracted. It could be in the early hours of the morning or late hours of the night when your mind is more relaxed and your eyes are clear.