To avoid these poster team has designed a good System where there are many watchers to track these shit posters to clean the forum and in this way forum environment stays good, those posts which are found as good merit sources appreciate them with the using merit system so the good posters get the motivation of doing more good/quality post on the forum.
In my opinion, one of the system is reporting those who plagiarized because plagiarism is the same as shit posting since the poster didn't even post his/her own work in the forum. Merit system is also one of it and I am sure you know it why it is implemented because of those forum members shit posting and there's also newbies who post and then leave it without checking again to see the replies from other forum members. 
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In conclusion:
Perhaps there might not be a final solution to every discussion but, your not in a discussion if all you do is create a topic or just drop a comment and your off. While in a discussion, you should discuss!
Therefore, I would add that every member of the forum who opens a topic should take care of it, and when the topic no longer makes sense, simply lock it. In conclusion:
Perhaps there might not be a final solution to every discussion but, your not in a discussion if all you do is create a topic or just drop a comment and your off. While in a discussion, you should discuss!
So, mate, you say it absolutely right that when the topic is opened, it should be taken care of properly, it should not be left empty, and moreover, it should be replayed to people so that it seems that there has been a discussion, because everyone follows the OP's context. Yes, it answers his question, but the OP should also not leave his Topic empty.
This attitude is mostly common among newbies and some few ranked users
Yes, this is usually found in Newbies, they just open the topic and don't check it out, i.e., don't discuss it. While behavior likewise falls into the category of spam. In my opinion, those people used to behave in the same way just to get merit. So I will kindly request that the newbie stop acting like that way, it is unethical behavior. 
This forum would be useless if not use for it's purpose and that is discussions about crypto kr anything cryptocurrency related however, there is a system that we all should follow to make this forum the best forum there is is to make forum members understand what to do like the post quality and many more. I am sure no one wants the forum to be like that where it is flooded with spam posts that's why merit system is created. So we should use this forum to share ideas, information and other things that we forum member needed.
hmm, you have raised a good point if there will be no quality posts good posters will get the frustration of the shit posting, and the interaction will get low I mean the quantity of the post has high quality will get low and good posters will not reply to these shit post and in this way, interaction will reduce that is why it is very important to maintain the good quality posting so that we can enjoy the forum. In my personal point of view, if the number of the shit posters will increase good users will lose interest in being active on the forum.
To avoid these poster team has designed a good System where there are many watchers to track these shit posters to clean the forum and in this way forum environment stays good, those posts which are found as good merit sources appreciate them with the using merit system so the good posters get the motivation of doing more good/quality post on the forum.
This attitude is mostly common among newbies and some few ranked users
Yeah, it's most found in us the newbies but perhaps I believe it's as a result of not having enough knowledge in the forum yet, and if observed very well, we then to change as soon as they attain a better height in the forum. So it's not bad if eventually they can change this behaviour but it's bad if it remains so even when ranked up or even they have spent a lot of years in environment yet not know the necessary thing. Having to be really involved in a discussion is really interesting you know. Your met with a lot of feeling, humor, sad, being irritated at some statement, inconclusive and not properly built ideas, ideas that you wouldn’t have thought of yourself, different perspectives to a case and many other attributes that could develop in a discussion, it’s fun and teaching.
I have also noticed a trend amongst newcomers, they take comments to heart and are very emotional when others do not agree with their opinion. They tell you not to comment in their thread if you don’t have anything good to say, which is dumb because only a fool will think he is always right. These set of users do not want a discussion in the real sense of the word. They just want supporters and responses that feed their ego.
We should buckled our shoes if we're keen on making good use of the forum because as time passes by, so it advances to key phases. As for the newcomers, they have their different patterns when it comes to making or requesting suggestions. The newbies have no knowledge about the forum, they're jeopardizing more chances I though could be handled by them. Though not all of them have intelligence when it comes to crypto and healthy talk, I've seen several that are making zero contributions, only typing and fighting for merits.
Your observations are very correct, I think I was a part of the people who do not communicate (discuss) in a discussion but at some point I began to discuss with some members of the forum and I saw the fun in having this conversation. So it took it upon myself to always discuss extensively in discussions. Perhaps it's about to agree and disagree in other to reach a solution hence I do not necessarily agree to some points especially when I think it's not too right hence it puts me in the edge to make research and make good arguments.
It got to a time where I couldn't discuss very well in the forum because I didn't have the notification bot but after I got it, it became much easier to communicate very well. I have also read the previous comments and I found them as good points too.
It got to a time where I couldn't discuss very well in the forum because I didn't have the notification bot but after I got it, it became much easier to communicate very well. I have also read the previous comments and I found them as good points too.
This attitude is mostly common among newbies and some few ranked users
Yeah, it's most found in us the newbies but perhaps I believe it's as a result of not having enough knowledge in the forum yet, and if observed very well, we then to change as soon as they attain a better height in the forum. So it's not bad if eventually they can change this behaviour but it's bad if it remains so even when ranked up or even they have spent a lot of years in environment yet not know the necessary thing. 
When I was new to the forum, it was difficult for me to keep track of my topics and replies except I clicked on "notify me of replies" and this usually floods my emails I didn't like that so I didn't use it. But as I spent more time on the forum, I discovered the BitcoinTalk telegram superNotifier bot. This has helped me keep track of my topics and replies to other posts by other forum members.
So I want to assume a lot of forum members, mostly lower-ranked members don't know about that software.
I think every active member on the forum should use the superNotifier bot, it makes keeping track of your post way easier and it can also notify you of new topics in boards you track.
I try my best to read every comment on my post, especially the topics I created. What's the point of making a post if you don't read the replies? I even read the replies to my post in the gambling section and most times, if it warrants a reply I do. It would be very difficult for me to do that with the telegram bot because I can't think of any other way I'll be able to keep track of all those replies.
I like the fact that you called people's attention to this because there won't be a discussion if everybody just posts what's on their minds and walks away without discussing it.
So I want to assume a lot of forum members, mostly lower-ranked members don't know about that software.
I think every active member on the forum should use the superNotifier bot, it makes keeping track of your post way easier and it can also notify you of new topics in boards you track.
I try my best to read every comment on my post, especially the topics I created. What's the point of making a post if you don't read the replies? I even read the replies to my post in the gambling section and most times, if it warrants a reply I do. It would be very difficult for me to do that with the telegram bot because I can't think of any other way I'll be able to keep track of all those replies.
I like the fact that you called people's attention to this because there won't be a discussion if everybody just posts what's on their minds and walks away without discussing it.
In conclusion:
Perhaps there might not be a final solution to every discussion but, your not in a discussion if all you do is create a topic or just drop a comment and your off. While in a discussion, you should discuss!
Perhaps there might not be a final solution to every discussion but, your not in a discussion if all you do is create a topic or just drop a comment and your off. While in a discussion, you should discuss!
This attitude is mostly common among newbies and some few ranked users. It's weird to see someone who created a thread seeking for advice or solution abandoned the thread for others to engage without following up or giving feedback where necessary. By standard, how it should be is what you said in your conclusion. However, in as far as Forum is like other discussion platforms, things are being done differently here. Some feedback to some responses on thread might just be a word like OK, noted, thanks, etc. Responding to comments with just a word or one line will definitely qualify you as a spammer. Truth remains that feedback is important to show that you achieve the purpose you create the thread for but in some cases, it's totally unnecessary to avoid spamming.
Again, I still don't understand how this thread is related to signature participants. What brought about campaign and signature discussion here?
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In conclusion:
Perhaps there might not be a final solution to every discussion but, your not in a discussion if all you do is create a topic or just drop a comment and your off. While in a discussion, you should discuss!
In conclusion:
Perhaps there might not be a final solution to every discussion but, your not in a discussion if all you do is create a topic or just drop a comment and your off. While in a discussion, you should discuss!
You have noticed well that some of the users of the forum do not behave in a manner that would be polite and that we can often see that they open a topic and never come back to comment on anything. The problem here is not only in the fact that such behavior is not polite, but also in the fact that such topics become (mostly) spam megathreads.
Therefore, I would add that every member of the forum who opens a topic should take care of it, and when the topic no longer makes sense, simply lock it.
Well got a point but we cant deny that there are some users whom comment for the sake of signature or just have a single opinion about the topic itself. Usually youll find them on some gambling discussion whereas some are forced to post there due to requirement of a manager in a gambling signature. Thats why I dont join such campaign with the requirement to post there cause what could I say more if I am not active on those gambling site. It would look like you are really there for the payment. Id love to discuss some of my prefered topic and join other or give some commentary on their thoughts as well.
You are not wrong and yes, I've noticed this behavior and who knows I may even be guilty of this. I just think that since this is a social space, there are different peeps with their behavioural patterns that don't really see it as much of a necessity to do something out side the box. This attitude is because they don't bother to read what the person before them said just as you keenly observed. This matter of users making repetitive words just to meet post count is something so many people have complained about, proffered solution for yet it still happens and this often occurs in the gambling section and I'm wondering if there will ever be lasting solution for it or will just have to make do?
There are solutions. The easiest one is to use text comparator. But if you want to go a step further, you can also read the whole discussion and use it to judge whether a post deserves to get paid or whether it doesn't.
However, this solution is not possible, because the most reputable campaign managers, manage a bunch of campaigns each. And each campaign has several members, so reading all the posts is a very time consuming task.
What I would do, if I were a campaign manager, would be to pay differently depending on if the post is merited or not. And to avoid merit exchanging I would put a requirement of being merited by at least 3 different members.
Imagine something like this:
Each post will be paid with X dollars.
Each post merited by at least 3 different accounts will be paid with Y dollars.
Each post merited by more than 10 people will be paid Z dollars.
Or option two, these participants may decides to exchange merits within themselves but without your knowledge and that doesn't solve the problem at all, it only gives you the illusion that it's being solved, but rather it's just there, operating on a low key.
Like I said earlier, we've had countless solutions offered but this issue still remains like a stubborn acne. For me, I think its best left to the mods or CMs to detect and rate a post that is worthy of being counted as quality posts...
In just imagining a situation where a sub board dedicated to spam gets created, shit! It will be the most active after the WO
This forum would be useless if not use for it's purpose and that is discussions about crypto kr anything cryptocurrency related however, there is a system that we all should follow to make this forum the best forum there is is to make forum members understand what to do like the post quality and many more. I am sure no one wants the forum to be like that where it is flooded with spam posts that's why merit system is created. So we should use this forum to share ideas, information and other things that we forum member needed.
I have also noticed a trend amongst newcomers, they take comments to heart and are very emotional when others do not agree with their opinion. They tell you not to comment in their thread if you don’t have anything good to say, which is dumb because only a fool will think he is always right. These set of users do not want a discussion in the real sense of the word. They just want supporters and responses that feed their ego.
I have noticed both sides of the story wherein either newcomers acting like they know everything and they can never go wrong and also how some new comers were bullied and they were questioned in a rude manner for their posts. It should be mutual wherein newcomers need to learn the basics and no one is expert they have to understand this fact and should be ready to accept feedbacks and shortcomings, at the same time the tenured users should be more tolerant unless a scan is spread by newbie.
I have also noticed a trend amongst newcomers, they take comments to heart and are very emotional when others do not agree with their opinion. They tell you not to comment in their thread if you don’t have anything good to say, which is dumb because only a fool will think he is always right. These set of users do not want a discussion in the real sense of the word. They just want supporters and responses that feed their ego.
I was editing my last reply, but you were quicker to quote it, so I'll just add what I wanted to say here.
Many campaigns now already have something similar to what you suggested, where they give xx (a fixed number) amount of members a fixed reward as the best posters for the week. This has a definite approach and the campaign project can easily follow through.
Suggesting to the project that what they pay each week is not definite and changes based on who gets what amount of merit will be a hurdle.
Yes true. The only problem is that this leaves a narrow space for new members to join campaigns.
It's also not a true test of quality and will drive some members to post outside their comfort zone if it doesn't get regular merits and can reduce the actual exposure the project is getting as everyone will be posting in the exact same boards.
But that's why I suggested different payments. So that a user can be paid upon unmerited posts as they used to, but they also have a chance to educate themselves more and to write more constructive posts to earn the extra merit and therefore, the extra bucks.
Why time frame will it be calculated on? Merits are earned weeks after a post is made.
That's indeed an issue... But I guess it good work on a monthly basis. So, if a user had posted X posts in a month, then they could get paid monthly using the scheme I suggested above. I know it's not a great pattern, based on the argument you have mentioned. It needs some tweaking but we could find a way.
Anyway... Just a thought.
What I would do, if I were a campaign manager, would be to pay differently depending on if the post is merited or not. And to avoid merit exchanging I would put a requirement of being merited by at least 3 different members.
This will not stop merit exchange. I'm sure there are farms out there with more than ten members who can easily engineer merits on posts around the forum. It's also not a true test of quality and will drive some members to post outside their comfort zone if it doesn't get regular merits and can reduce the actual exposure the project is getting as everyone will be posting in the exact same boards.Each post will be paid with X dollars.
Each post merited by at least 3 different accounts will be paid with Y dollars.
Each post merited by more than 10 people will be paid Z dollars.
Which time frame will it be calculated on? Merits are earned weeks after a post is made. Each post merited by at least 3 different accounts will be paid with Y dollars.
Each post merited by more than 10 people will be paid Z dollars.
You are not wrong and yes, I've noticed this behavior and who knows I may even be guilty of this. I just think that since this is a social space, there are different peeps with their behavioural patterns that don't really see it as much of a necessity to do something out side the box. This attitude is because they don't bother to read what the person before them said just as you keenly observed. This matter of users making repetitive words just to meet post count is something so many people have complained about, proffered solution for yet it still happens and this often occurs in the gambling section and I'm wondering if there will ever be lasting solution for it or will just have to make do?
There are solutions. The easiest one is to use text comparator. But if you want to go a step further, you can also read the whole discussion and use it to judge whether a post deserves to get paid or whether it doesn't.
However, this solution is not possible, because the most reputable campaign managers, manage a bunch of campaigns each. And each campaign has several members, so reading all the posts is a very time consuming task.
What I would do, if I were a campaign manager, would be to pay differently depending on if the post is merited or not. And to avoid merit exchanging I would put a requirement of being merited by at least 3 different members.
Imagine something like this:
Each post will be paid with X dollars.
Each post merited by at least 3 different accounts will be paid with Y dollars.
Each post merited by more than 10 people will be paid Z dollars.
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