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Topic: In-chain Games on Ethereum: Are They Still Relevant in 2023? (Read 329 times)

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building cities and attacking other cities, so is the concept like COC ?
I just want to remind you that crypto with a game concept is actually very interesting, but if you don't carry out continuous innovation and without adequate rewards the community will leave. besides that the cost on the ether network is also quite high.
legendary
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the thing with these blockchain game are that their economic model so bad it almost like meme coin.
the early birds get the most by consistently generating revenue, meanwhile the late ones are just not gonna get their money back, the economic model unsustaining because the early birds will have the chance of growing their source of income and rewards through compounding investment of getting the in game NFT item and thus raise their chance of earning meanwhile the newcomers will just become a newcomers forever.
that's the reason many people just realized that these blockchain games are massive waste of time, unless the quality is improved and the blockchain game free from its play to earn model, it will never grow.
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As others have said, Ethereum has high transaction fees. But it is not the only factor to determine whether it would be patronized by players. Profit potential and tokenomics would be also important. If we would go back with popularity of NFTs these are the common characteristics used on determining whether the game would be good for long term or not, so I think it is not only with the chain being used to run your game. If it would be free to play, I guess it won't be as catchy to the investors.

We saw how F2P games fell because of such trait since tokenomics is more likely to collapse because of abuse on players' end. But if you are that serious try running the game and be open for suggestions and imporvements afterward. People will have different preferences on the conceptualization phase, but start with Beta to see it for yourself.
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[.....]The higher number of free players will also flip the balance which might drop the value of the item that can be sold for Ethereum or other types of coins.
This is something that you should consider as well OP. I understand that the game you're trying to build does not require cash outflow to start but would still take time before players can create valuable items. Time is money as they say so maybe try looking at how you can balance the game. I mean would it still be worth spending an hour playing the game for a few cents? I get it that there will be those who would play it completely for fun but let's face the fact that financial incentives is what drives a lot of gamers.
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I played a free-to-play game before with some profits that were made. It's not entirely under Ethereum but some game developers did it under ERC20 and then just upgraded it to be used in another chain. I could say it was fun at first especially if the game is so amusing that it can take a load of time from their players to just keep on building.
But as it progress and many people are joining it, I saw how the value of the coin being traded declined too. What you earn for the whole day will not make sense anymore, the time and effort spent is not worth the profits. Now they changed it a bit by adding special items that can only be bought in their market in exchange for speeding up the progress of each player. Types of equipment that could be used specifically for each job that needs to be done.

The good part is that they can still enjoy it despite the value going down. I think the worst-case scenario for this type of project is the lack of investors who will buy those premium things or VIPs if it will be available. No money coming in means no money coming out, or lesser. The higher number of free players will also flip the balance which might drop the value of the item that can be sold for Ethereum or other types of coins.
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As we know the main problem in the ethereum network is gas costs which are considered expensive, I think it's still more normal with btc fees or even from other networks such as BNB or Polygon.

If you are a future player, it can cost you expensive gas and this could be the reason why they avoid playing your game over the network. I think that Crypto games still have a chance to shine in the next bull market, but you as a developer have to consider the problems that are happening in the market especially this issue regarding the cost of gas.

I think the best solution is to let the player choose the chain, I will build it on Solana and eth, then deploy the same contract on matic, BSC, etc...
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As we know the main problem in the ethereum network is gas costs which are considered expensive, I think it's still more normal with btc fees or even from other networks such as BNB or Polygon.

If you are a future player, it can cost you expensive gas and this could be the reason why they avoid playing your game over the network. I think that Crypto games still have a chance to shine in the next bull market, but you as a developer have to consider the problems that are happening in the market especially this issue regarding the cost of gas.
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I'm working on an in-chain game on ethereum, but before I spend more time on it, I would like to get some feedback first, so the game is about creating a town in a country, mining resources, building an army, and invading other towns, creating town shares, collecting taxes, sell it on the marketplace vs ETH, and more.

as a game designer, I can build it myself and I have friends in case I need it backers, in exchange I get loyalty for me and my backers from the marketplace when users exchange resources.
The question I'm asking is, is it worth building?
Do you play a free game on ethereum by paying only transaction fees knowing that you can sell town shares when you reach a certain level?

If i were you, i would switch the blockchain network from Ethereum to something else to be honest. The transaction costs of Ethereum are just way to high and the switch from PoW to PoS also did not change that sadly. At the moment the gas price is very low for Ethereum standards but still a normal transaction costs 1 - 2,5$ and a swap still costs around 8$. Those values can easily be 10x higher when the ETH network is heavily used again.
I would probably switch to BSC or Arbitrum if i were you. The transaction costs are way way lower and therefore you could attract way more people to try your game.
Absolutely, Ethereum has been acting like a rogue element in the digital financial arena, holding the reins when it comes to transaction costs. It parallels the image of a boisterous child insisting on your snack fund while giving zilch in return. It's certainly an argument worth considering, yet, I surmise it's not the single driving force here. Let's not forget - Ethereum's blockchain stands as one of the most seasoned and thoroughly vetted. It embodies an enticing mix of decentralization, ironclad security, and a congenial habitat for developers.

Moving towards BSC or Arbitrum though, it's akin to trading in a military-grade armored vehicle for a toy car due to its voracious fuel consumption. Indeed, BSC and Arbitrum promise lesser fees, but they can't really compete in the big leagues of security and decentralization. I'm not discrediting their virtues, but we ought to avoid being frugal at the expense of long-term gains.

Hence, prior to taking that bold step, balance the benefits and pitfalls. Ultimately, it's your move and your rulebook. However, bear in mind, low-cost doesn't always equate to superior quality.

Crypto started with BTC, then ETH came out with something new, and since then, I see only clones and complicated projects to use or build on like Solana.
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I'm working on an in-chain game on ethereum, but before I spend more time on it, I would like to get some feedback first, so the game is about creating a town in a country, mining resources, building an army, and invading other towns, creating town shares, collecting taxes, sell it on the marketplace vs ETH, and more.

as a game designer, I can build it myself and I have friends in case I need it backers, in exchange I get loyalty for me and my backers from the marketplace when users exchange resources.
The question I'm asking is, is it worth building?
Do you play a free game on ethereum by paying only transaction fees knowing that you can sell town shares when you reach a certain level?

If i were you, i would switch the blockchain network from Ethereum to something else to be honest. The transaction costs of Ethereum are just way to high and the switch from PoW to PoS also did not change that sadly. At the moment the gas price is very low for Ethereum standards but still a normal transaction costs 1 - 2,5$ and a swap still costs around 8$. Those values can easily be 10x higher when the ETH network is heavily used again.
I would probably switch to BSC or Arbitrum if i were you. The transaction costs are way way lower and therefore you could attract way more people to try your game.
Absolutely, Ethereum has been acting like a rogue element in the digital financial arena, holding the reins when it comes to transaction costs. It parallels the image of a boisterous child insisting on your snack fund while giving zilch in return. It's certainly an argument worth considering, yet, I surmise it's not the single driving force here. Let's not forget - Ethereum's blockchain stands as one of the most seasoned and thoroughly vetted. It embodies an enticing mix of decentralization, ironclad security, and a congenial habitat for developers.

Moving towards BSC or Arbitrum though, it's akin to trading in a military-grade armored vehicle for a toy car due to its voracious fuel consumption. Indeed, BSC and Arbitrum promise lesser fees, but they can't really compete in the big leagues of security and decentralization. I'm not discrediting their virtues, but we ought to avoid being frugal at the expense of long-term gains.

Hence, prior to taking that bold step, balance the benefits and pitfalls. Ultimately, it's your move and your rulebook. However, bear in mind, low-cost doesn't always equate to superior quality.
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As one can see, Ethereum-based games have become very popular in recent years and are seen as part of a revolution in dapps and the use of technology blockchain.

As Ethereum technology continues to evolve and improve, Ethereum-based games can continue to be relevant and evolving. However, there may be competition and growth of other platforms but Ethereum is considered the most popular dApp development platform, so Ethereum-based games will still be able to continue to grow in 2023. Investing in game projects developed on Ethereum can still be an option worth looking at for those interested in the field. While there are limitations we've seen in terms of transaction speeds and fees on the ETH network, in general, if a game is attractive enough, complaining about this issue will have many solutions.
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In the current market, there are many blockchain games being developed, so your game needs to be different to attract players. Your product can create value for players through gameplay, features, or other benefits. If you can come up with a good product for the players, the increase in value will come to you in time. The problem of producing an array on ETH will have to accept problems and fees as well as transaction speed, especially this problem becomes more serious when users come to the bull market. So it is not necessary to force yourself to join them, because now there are also many solutions across different ecosystems that save costs during development as well as improve usage.

I think Solana is the answer, the speed, the fees, and the community, and this is why most of the games are built on it, let's join them Smiley
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In the current market, there are many blockchain games being developed, so your game needs to be different to attract players. Your product can create value for players through gameplay, features, or other benefits. If you can come up with a good product for the players, the increase in value will come to you in time. The problem of producing an array on ETH will have to accept problems and fees as well as transaction speed, especially this problem becomes more serious when users come to the bull market. So it is not necessary to force yourself to join them, because now there are also many solutions across different ecosystems that save costs during development as well as improve usage.
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Were they even relevant at some point? I'm not playing any crypto-related games, I can't see the point. I mean, the game must be entertaining. If not all, most of the crypto-related games are not interesting. Yeah, you can make money, but I'd better do more work, sometimes it's even more fun than those games.
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I'm working on an in-chain game on ethereum, but before I spend more time on it, I would like to get some feedback first, so the game is about creating a town in a country, mining resources, building an army, and invading other towns, creating town shares, collecting taxes, sell it on the marketplace vs ETH, and more.
More like Clash of Clans, but in Ethereum blockchain.

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The question I'm asking is, is it worth building?
Do you play a free game on ethereum by paying only transaction fees knowing that you can sell town shares when you reach a certain level?

When NFT is starting to rise, there are many games that have been created on Ethereum at first, and I think that's also the reason why transaction fees of Ethereum went up at that time. Nowadays, in-chain games aren't that popular anymore, thus it doesn't affect the transaction fees of it.

Is it worth building? Maybe if you make a good marketing on your project, but with how NFT games ended, there's a high chance that your game might end up like what most of the games. Even the most popular NFT game which is Axie Infinity isn't been played by that much people anymore for some reasons, but the main is it's not worth their time anymore. Am I playing games base on Ethereum? No I didn't because most of the NFT games I played in the past either has their own blockchain (like Ronin for Axie Infinity), or they've been built in different blockchain (such as Binance Smart Chain, Polygon etc.).
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First of all, I would not recommend you to use the ethereum network, as my friends said. Because the network fees are very high, the number of players and your products will be very expensive. But on the other hand, the ethereum network is also seen as a reliable network for investors. This is because the investment fees are high and fraud is not possible. But if you are not going to start as a professional, I recommend you to start with alternative networks, namely bsc network. Or you can integrate the bsc network with the ethereum network.

What I want to create here is a silly basic game on blockchain, well-optimized, and secure, then we build a basic client that other developers can fork to build their own versions of the game.

As your friend said, the ethereum network is reliable, if you want to create a long-term project, ether is the answer, also the interaction with the contract can be optimized to pay less fees because the game has no ERC20/NFT or swaps, and since the resources can be sold, front-end developers can add a new contract to pay fees in exchange of resources, the possibilities are endless.

I think the real challenge is how the game contract is built, once the contract is in the testing phase, we can determine how the fees impact the game economics and how to deal with it.
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First of all, I would not recommend you to use the ethereum network, as my friends said. Because the network fees are very high, the number of players and your products will be very expensive. But on the other hand, the ethereum network is also seen as a reliable network for investors. This is because the investment fees are high and fraud is not possible. But if you are not going to start as a professional, I recommend you to start with alternative networks, namely bsc network. Or you can integrate the bsc network with the ethereum network.
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honestly I think it's not worth building anymore, so few actually looking at these blockchain based games because it's just not interesting anymore.
the reason being, the game itself mostly are just some not so good games and also the economy that it brings also isn't sustaining, more likely designed for just short term.
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The relevance and success of a particular in-chain game depends on a variety of factors, including target audience, gameplay mechanics, user experience and market conditions. In order to assess whether it is worth making such a game, it is recommended to consider the following points such as Market Demand, Gameplay and Interaction, Monetization and Sustainability and User Experience and Scalability which ultimately make it attractive and can be adopted by users later.
The main thing is that the game is the hype, and all other aspects are just an addition. And the main thing is on such games so that you can earn money. In addition, fee for transactions should be small, which cannot be said now about the Ethereum L1 network.
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I'm working on an in-chain game on ethereum, but before I spend more time on it, I would like to get some feedback first, so the game is about creating a town in a country, mining resources, building an army, and invading other towns, creating town shares, collecting taxes, sell it on the marketplace vs ETH, and more.

as a game designer, I can build it myself and I have friends in case I need it backers, in exchange I get loyalty for me and my backers from the marketplace when users exchange resources.
The question I'm asking is, is it worth building?
Do you play a free game on ethereum by paying only transaction fees knowing that you can sell town shares when you reach a certain level?
That's quite a huge blanket that would need to be relevant. Some will stay relevant, some will run out of developer interest or money.
I am guessing godsunchained stay relevant as they keep getting more funding with new card packs. They will get their peaks when they are trending just like pokemon trading cards. At some point everyone is interested, and most of the time it's just die hard fans.

They are however not going to get adopted in similar level that AAA+ games are with their own esports competitions. I wish they would but it would require whole new easier way to use cryptos.
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The relevance and success of a particular in-chain game depends on a variety of factors, including target audience, gameplay mechanics, user experience and market conditions. In order to assess whether it is worth making such a game, it is recommended to consider the following points such as Market Demand, Gameplay and Interaction, Monetization and Sustainability and User Experience and Scalability which ultimately make it attractive and can be adopted by users later.
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