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Quote from: Lieldoryn on June 06, 2017, 05:07:47 AM

Have become aware of some details of this conflict. Qatar paid terrorists about $1 billion to free the 26 members of the Royal family, kidnapped in Iraq during a falconry. The money went to the liberation of about 50 soldiers, captured by the extremists in Syria. Another $200 - $300 million received Islamist groups in Syria, in particular, "Tahrir al-sham". Qatar of course denies everything, but the smoke without fire does not happen. It's probably true. One can only imagine how many lives will take this billion dollars.

Do you have dementia? Or do you selectively and so conveniently dismiss US funding of "rebels" in the Middle East for about seven decades? Even today, they continue to fund terrorism. This has to stop! #Notwithmymoney

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 05, 2017, 08:32:02 PM

Qatar has been one of the main sponsors of the Wahhabi ideology for the past many years. Before the LNG boom, it used to be Saudi Arabia. But it is ironic that now the old sponsors are ganging up against the new sponsor.

Yes, thank you for clearing that up.

Qutar has been leading sponsor of Al-Qada and ISIS for many years. trying to pity "poor guy" now is akin to pathological disease. Linking up Qutar with either democracy or Iran (which is shiite) also doesnt have any basis in reality.

Quote from: awesome31312 on June 06, 2017, 05:00:04 AM

This is absolutely unbelievable! Qatar withdraws from the military industrial complex, so now they are being labeled as terrorists! This is exactly what they did to Iran that caused the hostage crises. No wonder Iran is supporting Qatar by sending them resources. We simply cannot afford more blowback. The US needs to get its nose out of there right now! It's real easy for politicians to talk tough to other countries when it is not them that are going to be the ones suffering the consequences of such trash talking!

Why not? Jihadi sponsors are ready to start to kill each other, so where is the problem? The rift among arab sunni theocracies will be without doubt used by Iran to strenghten its position in the middle East. Iran is far superior as far as keeping promises go, so I dont see problem from western point of view.

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Have become aware of some details of this conflict. Qatar paid terrorists about $1 billion to free the 26 members of the Royal family, kidnapped in Iraq during a falconry. The money went to the liberation of about 50 soldiers, captured by the extremists in Syria. Another $200 - $300 million received Islamist groups in Syria, in particular, "Tahrir al-sham". Qatar of course denies everything, but the smoke without fire does not happen. It's probably true. One can only imagine how many lives will take this billion dollars.

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This is absolutely unbelievable! Qatar withdraws from the military industrial complex, so now they are being labeled as terrorists! This is exactly what they did to Iran that caused the hostage crises. No wonder Iran is supporting Qatar by sending them resources. We simply cannot afford more blowback. The US needs to get its nose out of there right now! It's real easy for politicians to talk tough to other countries when it is not them that are going to be the ones suffering the consequences of such trash talking!

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Quote from: merchantofzeny on June 06, 2017, 02:40:40 AM

Weird was that they tried to drag Bahrain into this and now Bahrain joined them against Qatar. I wonder how Qatar will survive this ganging they're receiving.

Bahrain is one of the poorest nations in the Gulf region, as they don't have any deposits of oil and gas. Their economy depends on trade with the Saudis. Many things which are prohibited in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait are readily available in Bahrain (especially liquor and women). So they will do whatever the Saudis ask them to do. No surprise there.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 05, 2017, 08:32:02 PM

Qatar has been one of the main sponsors of the Wahhabi ideology for the past many years. Before the LNG boom, it used to be Saudi Arabia. But it is ironic that now the old sponsors are ganging up against the new sponsor.

Weird was that they tried to drag Bahrain into this and now Bahrain joined them against Qatar. I wonder how Qatar will survive this ganging they're receiving.

Do anyone have links to the mentioned hacked emails? From what I'm hearing, it says UAE was behind this shaming campaign. I also read somewhere that prior to the announcement from the Gulf neighbors, Qatar's news agency's (not al Jazeera) website and Twitter was hacked and used to release several articles against Qatar.

This is some high-level backstabbing we're seeing now.

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Qatar has been one of the main sponsors of the Wahhabi ideology for the past many years. Before the LNG boom, it used to be Saudi Arabia. But it is ironic that now the old sponsors are ganging up against the new sponsor.

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Quote from: joebrook on June 05, 2017, 01:59:01 PM

... to explain how these terrorist organisations get all the money ...

There are two separate things

1) Individuals who were raised in rough houses with poor education, so they throw rocks or bombs or gasoline cocktails

2) Organizations that try to provide a structure to those individuals, like a surrogate family.

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When somebody says terrorist in place of criminal, or criminal in place of childish, they are on the road to terror or crime.

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It all looks like a campaign of misinformation by both sides, and this big war between major factions in the middle east is gonna be an economic one rather than a military one. Will be interesting to see how it develops and whether it will spill over to global markets.

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Quote from: Basmic on June 05, 2017, 06:47:38 AM

Saudi Arabia, Egypt, United Arab Emirates and Bahrain, followed by Yemen and Libya said on Monday morning about the break of diplomatic relations with neighboring Qatar, which they accused of supporting terrorists and extremists. The reason for this was the scandal with the publication by the Qatari news Agency statements, on behalf of the Emir on the need to establish relations with Iran. Later the official representative the Ministry of foreign Affairs of Qatar said the hacking of the website of the Agency, in connection with which this message is untrue. However, UAE, Bahrain and Saudi Arabia did not believe the explanation of a diplomat, and UAE Minister for foreign Affairs Anwar Gargash called on Qatar to change its policy and not to repeat past mistakes, to restore relations with neighbors. What is the policy or attempt to provoke a rise in oil prices?

I dont understand why there Arabs are fighting between themselves, Without a doubt, one or more of the countries mentioned do support terrorism, There is no better reason to explain how these terrorist organisations get all the money to fund their heinous crimes, they must have a very wealthy donor somewhere.

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Quote from: Mometaskers on June 05, 2017, 11:23:56 AM

Wasn't it a few days ago that hackers released emails from UAE's ambassador to the US? Apparently there's a conspiracy to link Qatar and Bahrain with terrorism. Looks like everyone's ganging up on Qatar. A pity that those two countries mentioned were actually the more progressive among the Gulf States.

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Al Jazeera, also known as JSC, is a Doha-based state-funded broadcaster owned by the Al Jazeera Media Network, which is partly funded by the House of Thani, the ruling family of Qatar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera

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this will bring iran and qatar together against these six arabic countries. very risky act...

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Wasn't it a few days ago that hackers released emails from UAE's ambassador to the US? Apparently there's a conspiracy to link Qatar and Bahrain with terrorism. Looks like everyone's ganging up on Qatar. A pity that those two countries mentioned were actually the more progressive among the Gulf States.

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About 40 years ago the Arabs tried to form an economic and political bloc to have more power as an ethnic group. They were easily stymied.

Now they have been driven to a situation in which there are two strong emotional camps, basically Saudi Arabia vs Iran. Both camps are similar in basic ways, they are both "traditional" but the political difference lets them develop in such a way that they can integrate Western ideas as well, though the cost is high.

There is a high price to be paid by people who don't have money i.e., they are called terrorists until they get money, and outsiders profit from the division like vultures, but smart people should not be baffled by the bullshit. At the end of the day there are killers who will be killed and peaceful people who will have peace and the spoils of conflict.

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It looks as if the share price in Sainsburys ( the UK supermarket chain ) went down by 1% as well. Qatar is the effective owner of Sainsburys.

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The share index of Qatar dropped in the first hour of the auction by 8% after Saudi Arabia, Egypt, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain and Yemen declared severance of diplomatic relations and closure of boundaries with Qatar.
Actions of one of leading companies of Vodafone Qatar lost 10% of cost – a trade limit in a day. This number included the stocks Qatar National Bank, the largest bank of the country which depreciated for 6,4%. According to issuing, Qatar Airways as won't be able to fly to one of the most expensive countries of the world can suffer most.
We will mark that the markets of the countries of the region also fell, but it is insignificant: the exchange in Dubai loses 0,8%, Saudi Arabia - 0,2%.
It is supposed that Qatar will be able to endure this political crisis as the country has national welfare fund on 335 billion dollars, the balance of trade balance reaches 2,7 billion dollars Qatar also possesses powerful ports which can use instead of the closed overland boundary with Saudi Arabia.

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Saudi Arabia, Egypt, United Arab Emirates and Bahrain, followed by Yemen and Libya said on Monday morning about the break of diplomatic relations with neighboring Qatar, which they accused of supporting terrorists and extremists. The reason for this was the scandal with the publication by the Qatari news Agency statements, on behalf of the Emir on the need to establish relations with Iran. Later the official representative the Ministry of foreign Affairs of Qatar said the hacking of the website of the Agency, in connection with which this message is untrue. However, UAE, Bahrain and Saudi Arabia did not believe the explanation of a diplomat, and UAE Minister for foreign Affairs Anwar Gargash called on Qatar to change its policy and not to repeat past mistakes, to restore relations with neighbors. What is the policy or attempt to provoke a rise in oil prices?

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