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Topic: In the beginning days when people were mining with CPU - page 2. (Read 1874 times)

sr. member
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CPUs were mining for approximately 2 years before GPU mining started. The first GPU miner was known to keep the mining software to himself and mined a lot of coin at the time before public GPU mining software became available. There was no great outrage about this at the time because bitcoin was only worth a few cents still until GPU mining became publicly available. After that GPU mining was generally quite available through simple GPU miners which I consolidated into the general purpose cgminer application to make it available everywhere. FPGA miners came out about  year later but were never popular because the initial cost of purchasing the FPGA miner never offset the savings in electricity they had over GPUs. They did not have significantly higher hashrate than the GPUs. When the first ASICs appeared the following year, their hashrate was so much higher than GPUs that it would have been impossible to hide their hashrate. The highest spec GPU at the time was 700MH and the first ASIC was 70GH. We all could see the sudden rise in network hashrate and difficulty followed it. We also knew who got the first ASIC miner itself and we were watching his hashrate...

damn, this sounds awesome., i like where this is going.

how can you tell network hashrate ?

and how can you find who owns much/maximum hashrate ?

CPUs were mining for approximately 2 years before GPU mining started. The first GPU miner was known to keep the mining software to himself and mined a lot of coin at the time before public GPU mining software became available.

GPU mining appeared roughly 1.5 years after the Bitcoin genesis block, in mid 2010. ArtForz was the first to use it (see ArtForz story here
http://www.ofnumbers.com/2014/04/20/how-artforz-changed-the-history-of-bitcoin-mining/) and indeed he did not go public but GPU public mining code appeared very shortly, see, eg.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/python-opencl-bitcoin-miner-1334. In late 2010/ early 2011 GPU mining was already dominating but CPU mining was still possible. First mining pools appeared in late 2010.
CPU mining stopped being profitable (although malware bots continued to mine it longer) roughly in Q2 2011.

26,650 bitcoins at today's rate , make more than 200 mil. fuck me, he is smart.

even though satoshi could have done same, but he wanted everyone to join/participate.
jr. member
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CPUs were mining for approximately 2 years before GPU mining started. The first GPU miner was known to keep the mining software to himself and mined a lot of coin at the time before public GPU mining software became available.

GPU mining appeared roughly 1.5 years after the Bitcoin genesis block, in mid 2010. ArtForz was the first to use it (see ArtForz story here
http://www.ofnumbers.com/2014/04/20/how-artforz-changed-the-history-of-bitcoin-mining/) and indeed he did not go public but GPU public mining code appeared very shortly, see, eg.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/python-opencl-bitcoin-miner-1334. In late 2010/ early 2011 GPU mining was already dominating but CPU mining was still possible. First mining pools appeared in late 2010.
CPU mining stopped being profitable (although malware bots continued to mine it longer) roughly in Q2 2011.
-ck
legendary
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Ruu \o/
CPUs were mining for approximately 2 years before GPU mining started. The first GPU miner was known to keep the mining software to himself and mined a lot of coin at the time before public GPU mining software became available. There was no great outrage about this at the time because bitcoin was only worth a few cents still until GPU mining became publicly available. After that GPU mining was generally quite available through simple GPU miners which I consolidated into the general purpose cgminer application to make it available everywhere. FPGA miners came out about  year later but were never popular because the initial cost of purchasing the FPGA miner never offset the savings in electricity they had over GPUs. They did not have significantly higher hashrate than the GPUs. When the first ASICs appeared the following year, their hashrate was so much higher than GPUs that it would have been impossible to hide their hashrate. The highest spec GPU at the time was 700MH and the first ASIC was 70GH. We all could see the sudden rise in network hashrate and difficulty followed it. We also knew who got the first ASIC miner itself and we were watching his hashrate...
hero member
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Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
what is stopping from people to mine even faster than ASIC, and not tell anybody ?
The GPUs that we are talking about people using already existed.

Since ASICs were developed specifically for BTC mining, it would stand to reason that they're the best existing method of mining BTC in the market, whereas people could already be aware of the existence of GPU mining during the earlier couple of years.

If a better ASIC was developed, it's most likely that the owner of them would want to sell the new ASIC as well as just using it themselves.

However, there was a scandal earlier this year about the possibility of ASICBoost, which could theoretically have allowed someone to increase their profits.  Some people believed that BITMAIN had been using this, although there was no strong evidence of that.
 
sr. member
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Mining with cpu lasted for like 2-3 years.
There was official letter from Satoshi asking people not to use GPU mining so that more people can participate.
Of course there were people who ignored this and mined with GPUs anyway but it was hard because there was no apps for this so you had to write the programs yourself.

You can't really mine faster than ASICs as they are the most optimized hardware currently available. By definition ASIC is optimized completely only for making bitcoins. There is no higher class of hardware above it. You can only make a faster ASIC.

dang, i knew it, if it can be run on CPU, it can be run on GPU. more GPU more power.

anyways., thanks., this is good start for me.

jr. member
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Mining with cpu lasted for like 2-3 years.
There was official letter from Satoshi asking people not to use GPU mining so that more people can participate.
Of course there were people who ignored this and mined with GPUs anyway but it was hard because there was no apps for this so you had to write the programs yourself.

You can't really mine faster than ASICs as they are the most optimized hardware currently available. By definition ASIC is optimized completely only for making bitcoins. There is no higher class of hardware above it. You can only make a faster ASIC.
sr. member
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did people started with only cpu ? and not with gpu ?

when did gpu mining started ? i mean how many months/years after initial cpu mining started

what i am trying to understand is,

when majority of people were mining with cpu., did some people started mining with gpu and didnt tell anybody just to mine as much as possible in short time., so that only they will benefit from it ?

did something like that happen ?

because gpu mining is just a piece of software and whoever made it public,only after that people came to know about gpu mining,
there is chance that people were already mining with gpu but secretly.

if thats the case.,

what is stopping from people to mine even faster than ASIC, and not tell anybody ? i mean keep it secret.,
or have we reached at the point, that its not easier for averrage joe to get more speed than ASIC ?


sorry for so many questions and bad english., this struck me while i was trying to find the fastest way to create bitcoin address from sha 256 private key .


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