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sr. member
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Avalon ASIC Team
September 09, 2013, 03:48:14 PM
And no info about shipping of the 400,000 chips they just got...nice

 Why can't I shake this sick feeling in my stomach that the line about 400,000 chips was just another steaming pile of bullshit ?

We did mention in the last email they were already in hand, are being sent out. this email is just to address those people who still wish to get refunds even if their order is "prepare-shipping" which is the 400k+ chips.
sr. member
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Official sponsor of Microsoft Corp.
September 09, 2013, 03:44:28 PM
Alright guys, got some good news, here's the two big ones.

1. chips from wednesday arrived just fine, they are being split/packaged for shipment.
2. we are going to open refund for all orders, not just june 1st/15th or what not.

expect more detailed update via newsletter later tonight.

Newsletter update was supposed to go out?  Did it?

I think it is being held in customs.
Customs just released the News Update Smiley
http://us5.campaign-archive2.com/?u=238a9ecd2e5192e3cd3ace26d&id=1a696dd59b
legendary
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Merit: 1067
Christian Antkow
September 09, 2013, 03:42:54 PM
And no info about shipping of the 400,000 chips they just got...nice

 Why can't I shake this sick feeling in my stomach that the line about 400,000 chips was just another steaming pile of bullshit ?
member
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September 09, 2013, 03:40:05 PM
I think he is planning on them being refunded.
full member
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Merit: 100
September 09, 2013, 03:35:56 PM
And no info about shipping of the 400,000 chips they just got...nice
hero member
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September 09, 2013, 03:25:41 PM
Lol I just got it 3 minutes ago. Smiley
hero member
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September 09, 2013, 03:23:30 PM
Here it is, make of it what you will. I know what I think, it generally involves people doing business with Bitsyncom ever again being furry creatures created by Jim Henson;

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Avalon ASIC
Now accepting refunds from any and all order dates
Due to delays we are now offering full refund in bitcoin for all the Avalon Generation One orders made on any date, It is advise for people to request refunds due to the delay and raise of bitcoin difficulty.

The update refund form can be found on the main store site, linked here.
Due to phishing attempts and spam, any refund request not made containing the original order email and phone number will be automatically rejected by the system and marked as spam, so please bear this in mind.

Avalon Generation Two Chips 55nm
Those who have invested in time and money on Avalon Generation One based devices and clones can rejoice in the fact we had the foresight to make Avalon Generation Two chips completely backward compatible in every way with 110nm generation one chips, which can be expect to go on sale Late October 2013 for immediate shipping. Avalon will no longer participate in any kind of pre-ordering.

Developers and Hobbyists should keep an close eye on our github account as we will be releasing the 55nm chip specification and reference design soon!

Copyright © 2013 BitSyncom LLC, All rights reserved.
You are receiving this email because you have expressed interests in the Avalon ASIC Bitcoin Miner

Our mailing address is:
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187 Wolf Road, Suite 101Albany, NY 12205

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sr. member
Activity: 457
Merit: 250
September 09, 2013, 01:58:58 PM
Alright guys, got some good news, here's the two big ones.

1. chips from wednesday arrived just fine, they are being split/packaged for shipment.
2. we are going to open refund for all orders, not just june 1st/15th or what not.

expect more detailed update via newsletter later tonight.

Newsletter update was supposed to go out?  Did it?

I think it is being held in customs.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
September 09, 2013, 01:54:43 PM
Alright guys, got some good news, here's the two big ones.

1. chips from wednesday arrived just fine, they are being split/packaged for shipment.
2. we are going to open refund for all orders, not just june 1st/15th or what not.

expect more detailed update via newsletter later tonight.

Newsletter update was supposed to go out?  Did it?
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
September 09, 2013, 01:29:44 PM
Alright guys, got some good news, here's the two big ones.

1. chips from wednesday arrived just fine, they are being split/packaged for shipment.
2. we are going to open refund for all orders, not just june 1st/15th or what not.

expect more detailed update via newsletter later tonight.

Yifu, When are you going to finish adding trade-ins to store accounts and invoicing and shipping?   ~5 months later...still nothing.
I've opened over 17 tickets, texted, called, emailed you, pm'd you and posted on forum. No direct answers for months now.


Sir Trade-Ins Missing from Store Account #1541
Created on Thu, Sep 5 at 10:48 AM
BEING PROCESSED
TRADE-IN NOT IN STORE YET #1540
Created on Thu, Sep 5 at 10:48 AM
BEING PROCESSED
Trade-ins Signed by Mr. Chen Still not in store account. #1530
Created on Sat, Aug 31 at 2:14 PM
BEING PROCESSED
TRADE-IN NOT IN STORE YET #1508
Created on Mon, Aug 26 at 12:20 PM
BEING PROCESSED
TRADE-INS SIGNED BY MR. CHEN; NOT POSTED IN AVALON STORE ACCOUNT #1495
Created on Wed, Aug 21 at 4:09 AM
BEING PROCESSED
Order is still not in Store Account #1487
Created on Sun, Aug 18 at 10:42 PM
BEING PROCESSED
Trade-ins Please Sir ADD to Store Account #1476
Created on Tue, Aug 13 at 10:15 AM
BEING PROCESSED
Sir Please Add Trade-In to Store #1454
Created on Tue, Aug 6 at 12:21 PM
BEING PROCESSED
TRADE-IN NOT IN STORE YET #1453
Created on Tue, Aug 6 at 12:20 PM
BEING PROCESSED
TRADE-IN NOT IN STORE YET #1452
Created on Tue, Aug 6 at 12:20 PM
TRADE-IN NOT IN STORE YET #1451
Created on Tue, Aug 6 at 12:19 PM
BEING PROCESSED
TRADE-IN NOT IN STORE YET #1450
Created on Tue, Aug 6 at 12:18 PM
BEING PROCESSED
Sir Please Add Trade-In to Store #1424
Created on Tue, Jul 30 at 2:50 PM
BEING PROCESSED
TRADE-IN NOT IN STORE YET #1409
Created on Wed, Jul 24 at 11:53 AM
BEING PROCESSED
TRADE-IN NOT IN STORE YET #1408
Created on Wed, Jul 24 at 11:51 AM
BEING PROCESSED
Hello Sir, Please add my trade-in to my store account. #1351
Created on Mon, Jul 15 at 11:01 AM
BEING PROCESSED
Sir Please help with Avalon Trade-In #1235
Created on Tue, Jul 2 at 11:29 AM

9/9/2013  Yifu has still not added Trade-ins to our store accounts.  Will try emailing, etc. again.
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September 09, 2013, 01:13:33 PM
A full member PMed me this:
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IME, anything to do with china/chinese is toxic in 1 way or another. i am disgusted (but not in the least surprised) with the lack of integrity, not to mention delays on everything and little to no explanation other than 'someone else' is at fault...

 I, for one, am absolutely in awe of China/The Chinese for how they've jumped all over building Bitcoin technologies ahead of most other countries.

 Xenophobia like that really has no place in these forums IMO, and credit should be given where it's due.

 Being a bad apple with low integrity and lacking scruples can happen to any individual, irrespective of race or color.

Yes! I can't wait for a world devoid of these worthless thoughts.  They are hurtful not only to the target, but to the one who harbors the feeling to begin with.  Not that racist bastards deserve a lot of sympathy on this point, but it's just not a logical form of thought. 

One species people!  Race does not exist! 
legendary
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Christian Antkow
September 09, 2013, 12:49:52 PM
A full member PMed me this:
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IME, anything to do with china/chinese is toxic in 1 way or another. i am disgusted (but not in the least surprised) with the lack of integrity, not to mention delays on everything and little to no explanation other than 'someone else' is at fault...

 I, for one, am absolutely in awe of China/The Chinese for how they've jumped all over building Bitcoin technologies ahead of most other countries.

 Xenophobia like that really has no place in these forums IMO, and credit should be given where it's due.

 Being a bad apple with low integrity and lacking scruples can happen to any individual, irrespective of race or color.
full member
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September 09, 2013, 12:32:20 PM
400000 chips were there last week..
sr. member
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Merit: 250
September 09, 2013, 12:03:36 PM
How long does it take to count to 10k and ship the damn chips!!!

First, one must be in possession of said chips.
full member
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September 09, 2013, 11:59:57 AM
How long does it take to count to 10k and ship the damn chips!!!
hero member
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Merit: 1000
September 08, 2013, 04:03:00 AM
When Ngzhang started to sell his Batch #3 in China, a Chinese buyer want to visit him and sign a contract on paper. However, Ngzhang refused. They hide their ass, refuse to communicate and respond. I think that's why the buyer started to look for their parents. Their parents may have the access to contact them.




A full member PMed me this:

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so he might have us believe....

If any of you had been through such a scary scenario, would you be at all comfortable handing out private information of your buyers to god-knows-who in a weak attempt to negate responsibility of your own errors?

we have all lost considerably due to pure dishonesty, arrogance & incompetence.(mostly dishonesty)

all except the 2 that are hopefully wallowing in the 'chi' that they deserve. (where i am, chi means piss)

IME, anything to do with china/chinese is toxic in 1 way or another. i am disgusted (but not in the least surprised) with the lack of integrity, not to mention delays on everything and little to no explanation other than 'someone else' is at fault...



China / Chinese not really the only people on this planet cornering the market on toxicity, crime and all around unethical business practices given the BFL example we can plainly see humanity in any cultural form is rife with inexcusable behavior. My experience doesn't extend to every Chinese person nor every American or European or African etc. If there is plain evidence of wrong doing from these "businessmen" let us see how well they get on with the FBI or local authorities in China. Given what we have seen paying everyone back is a lot further along continuum than what BFL has wrought but both companies are woefully inadequate models for good corporate governance. Steer clear of both.
donator
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September 08, 2013, 02:55:25 AM
When Ngzhang started to sell his Batch #3 in China, a Chinese buyer want to visit him and sign a contract on paper. However, Ngzhang refused. They hide their ass, refuse to communicate and respond. I think that's why the buyer started to look for their parents. Their parents may have the access to contact them.




A full member PMed me this:

Quote
so he might have us believe....

If any of you had been through such a scary scenario, would you be at all comfortable handing out private information of your buyers to god-knows-who in a weak attempt to negate responsibility of your own errors?

we have all lost considerably due to pure dishonesty, arrogance & incompetence.(mostly dishonesty)

all except the 2 that are hopefully wallowing in the 'chi' that they deserve. (where i am, chi means piss)

IME, anything to do with china/chinese is toxic in 1 way or another. i am disgusted (but not in the least surprised) with the lack of integrity, not to mention delays on everything and little to no explanation other than 'someone else' is at fault...

donator
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1001
September 08, 2013, 02:54:19 AM
When Ngzhang started to sell his Batch #3 in China, a Chinese buyer want to visit him and sign a contract on paper. However, Ngzhang refused. They hide their ass, refuse to communicate and respond. I think that's why the buyer started to look for their parents. Their parents may have the access to contact them.

I can understand frustration, but going after someone's parents in order to track down someone seems well over the line. I'd prefer that people who make promises either deliver or explain why they can't in a meaningful time frame and to the satisfaction of their customers. Warning signs that he wouldn't sign anything right? Guess we have take serious notes on that and the current inability to communicate and shop elsewhere. Makes perfect sense not to trust these people ever again. The only way at this point to change that opinion is to change their pattern and communicate effectively and provide refunds immediately to all that ask. Let us see how they resolve the remaining issues. There is some positive progress but until there is a complete resolution to all grievances this company can not be trusted.

It's actually a cultural thing. If you can't get obligations fulfilled by a child, you speak with their parents.

I'm ex law enforcement, and I am talking with FBI white collar division friends about what has been taking place. I know Bitsyncom has a US address, and contacts here. We'll see what can be found out as to the true destination of the original chips that were ordered. So far it's looking almost like a ponzi scam variant. If they are interested in what comes up, they may take further action. 

Yes is 100% a scam. Yifu Guo is a scammer. He sells a time sensitive product, and delaying them for 2 month, steal most of the value of the product from his customer.
hero member
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Whale Watchers and Pinnacle Brilliance founder
September 08, 2013, 02:46:35 AM
When Ngzhang started to sell his Batch #3 in China, a Chinese buyer want to visit him and sign a contract on paper. However, Ngzhang refused. They hide their ass, refuse to communicate and respond. I think that's why the buyer started to look for their parents. Their parents may have the access to contact them.

I can understand frustration, but going after someone's parents in order to track down someone seems well over the line. I'd prefer that people who make promises either deliver or explain why they can't in a meaningful time frame and to the satisfaction of their customers. Warning signs that he wouldn't sign anything right? Guess we have take serious notes on that and the current inability to communicate and shop elsewhere. Makes perfect sense not to trust these people ever again. The only way at this point to change that opinion is to change their pattern and communicate effectively and provide refunds immediately to all that ask. Let us see how they resolve the remaining issues. There is some positive progress but until there is a complete resolution to all grievances this company can not be trusted.

It's actually a cultural thing. If you can't get obligations fulfilled by a child, you speak with their parents.

I'm ex law enforcement, and I am talking with FBI white collar division friends about what has been taking place. I know Bitsyncom has a US address, and contacts here. We'll see what can be found out as to the true destination of the original chips that were ordered. So far it's looking almost like a ponzi scam variant. If they are interested in what comes up, they may take further action. 
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
September 08, 2013, 12:51:46 AM
When Ngzhang started to sell his Batch #3 in China, a Chinese buyer want to visit him and sign a contract on paper. However, Ngzhang refused. They hide their ass, refuse to communicate and respond. I think that's why the buyer started to look for their parents. Their parents may have the access to contact them.

I can understand frustration, but going after someone's parents in order to track down someone seems well over the line. I'd prefer that people who make promises either deliver or explain why they can't in a meaningful time frame and to the satisfaction of their customers. Warning signs that he wouldn't sign anything right? Guess we have take serious notes on that and the current inability to communicate and shop elsewhere. Makes perfect sense not to trust these people ever again. The only way at this point to change that opinion is to change their pattern and communicate effectively and provide refunds immediately to all that ask. Let us see how they resolve the remaining issues. There is some positive progress but until there is a complete resolution to all grievances this company can not be trusted.
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