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legendary
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September 27, 2012, 12:37:37 PM
#17
I did some rough calculations based on our sales figures and at least for the case of BFL, we will not cause a 10x increase.  I can't speak for the other manufacturers numbers, of course.

sr. member
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September 27, 2012, 12:09:37 PM
#16
I think difficulty will sky rocket.  10 fold minimum, just in the next few months

Very much likely. In my analysis last month I predicted 7x increase minimum, but 10-12 is more likely.
Reference: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L8hKZinune9Cc7tWY9Pmx8J17BOxor7QNQAV03xROOc/edit


It will. Closer to 30x based on my calculations.

And where can we find these calculations?
I would like to know too, I have been seeing the 10X quote allot but the 30x is new.
legendary
Activity: 1064
Merit: 1001
September 27, 2012, 09:20:42 AM
#15
I think difficulty will sky rocket.  10 fold minimum, just in the next few months

Very much likely. In my analysis last month I predicted 7x increase minimum, but 10-12 is more likely.
Reference: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L8hKZinune9Cc7tWY9Pmx8J17BOxor7QNQAV03xROOc/edit


It will. Closer to 30x based on my calculations.

And where can we find these calculations?
legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1000
September 24, 2012, 12:31:09 PM
#14
I'm assuming you're just plugging those numbers into here: http://bitcoinx.com/profit/index.php

Now remember that the difficulty is expected to more than just double. Try sticking another 1 in front of that difficulty, or lowering the profitability decline down to 0.20.

They are great little units by today's standards! But you wont make $1000USD over 18 months..
I'm hoping that the difficulty doesn't go too much further than doubling.  I know the ASCI will cause a spike, but it will settle after a little.  As in every market, new technology will cause surge but the market will come to a balance again. 
Why would the difficulty ever decrease after a spike, unless you expect people to turn off their miners?
By "settle" I don't think he meant "decrease". I read that as when the difficulty will jump up, eventually it has to level out somewhere. It might take 6 months, but eventually the difficulty will stabilize.
legendary
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September 24, 2012, 09:54:39 AM
#13
I'm assuming you're just plugging those numbers into here: http://bitcoinx.com/profit/index.php

Now remember that the difficulty is expected to more than just double. Try sticking another 1 in front of that difficulty, or lowering the profitability decline down to 0.20.

They are great little units by today's standards! But you wont make $1000USD over 18 months..

I'm hoping that the difficulty doesn't go too much further than doubling.  I know the ASCI will cause a spike, but it will settle after a little.  As in every market, new technology will cause surge but the market will come to a balance again. 
Why would the difficulty ever decrease after a spike, unless you expect people to turn off their miners?
hero member
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September 19, 2012, 09:21:12 PM
#12
It will. Closer to 30x based on my calculations.
legendary
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Merit: 1008
If you want to walk on water, get out of the boat
September 19, 2012, 04:44:52 PM
#11
I think difficulty will sky rocket.  10 fold minimum, just in the next few months
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member
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September 19, 2012, 09:17:20 AM
#10
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus#USB_3.0

Possibly 7.5W for a jalapeno. Maximum current on the bus is 25W at 5V.
legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1000
September 17, 2012, 11:58:49 PM
#9
The 80W draw quoted is for the Single. The 3.5GH you've used is for the Jalapeno, which is USB powered (assuming USB3, that's less than 4.5W).

You'll probably see difficulty increase at minimum tenfold within 3 months of first product shipping.

Damn idk why I didn't catch that! Tongue That bumps his profit numbers up another 150. Again, I think that's too optimistic, but w/e.
sr. member
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Per aspera ad astra!
September 17, 2012, 11:28:00 PM
#8
All we know is that it won't be more than their current products, so < 80W for the SC Single, and < 1250W for the SC MR.

Keeping the 80W draw in mind, 

Bitcoin difficulty : 5388095.905910 (Once it doubles)
Drop is reward : 25

Keeping in mind that the Conversion rate doesn't change ( Which it probably will) 11.84 per bitcoin

Mining at 3.5Ghash/s

Power Consumption : 80w
Electricity rate: .15kWh

Time Frame: 18 months

Cost of mining hardware : 168 USD

That will return you close to 1,000 dollars. 

Not a bad investment.  With a 18month turn around. 

The 80W draw quoted is for the Single. The 3.5GH you've used is for the Jalapeno, which is USB powered (assuming USB3, that's less than 4.5W).

You'll probably see difficulty increase at minimum tenfold within 3 months of first product shipping.
legendary
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Merit: 1001
September 17, 2012, 11:23:34 PM
#7
I'm assuming you're just plugging those numbers into here: http://bitcoinx.com/profit/index.php

Now remember that the difficulty is expected to more than just double. Try sticking another 1 in front of that difficulty, or lowering the profitability decline down to 0.20.

They are great little units by today's standards! But you wont make $1000USD over 18 months..

I'm hoping that the difficulty doesn't go too much further than doubling.  I know the ASCI will cause a spike, but it will settle after a little.  As in every market, new technology will cause surge but the market will come to a balance again. 

When doing my own calcs, I've been counting on a 10x increase. I'd rather it be lower and get more than I expected than to get my hopes up and be disappointed.

I've been thinking around 10,000,000 difficulty at least= 120 TH network total by late Nov early Dec  Grin

Until Jan/Feb/March,then maybe 300 TH network total=40,000,000 difficulty  Shocked
legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1000
September 17, 2012, 11:00:18 PM
#6
I'm assuming you're just plugging those numbers into here: http://bitcoinx.com/profit/index.php

Now remember that the difficulty is expected to more than just double. Try sticking another 1 in front of that difficulty, or lowering the profitability decline down to 0.20.

They are great little units by today's standards! But you wont make $1000USD over 18 months..

I'm hoping that the difficulty doesn't go too much further than doubling.  I know the ASCI will cause a spike, but it will settle after a little.  As in every market, new technology will cause surge but the market will come to a balance again. 

When doing my own calcs, I've been counting on a 10x increase. I'd rather it be lower and get more than I expected than to get my hopes up and be disappointed.
full member
Activity: 170
Merit: 100
September 17, 2012, 10:46:46 PM
#5
I'm assuming you're just plugging those numbers into here: http://bitcoinx.com/profit/index.php

Now remember that the difficulty is expected to more than just double. Try sticking another 1 in front of that difficulty, or lowering the profitability decline down to 0.20.

They are great little units by today's standards! But you wont make $1000USD over 18 months..

I'm hoping that the difficulty doesn't go too much further than doubling.  I know the ASCI will cause a spike, but it will settle after a little.  As in every market, new technology will cause surge but the market will come to a balance again. 
legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1000
September 17, 2012, 01:28:15 PM
#4
I'm assuming you're just plugging those numbers into here: http://bitcoinx.com/profit/index.php

Now remember that the difficulty is expected to more than just double. Try sticking another 1 in front of that difficulty, or lowering the profitability decline down to 0.20.

They are great little units by today's standards! But you wont make $1000USD over 18 months..
full member
Activity: 170
Merit: 100
September 17, 2012, 01:16:04 PM
#3
All we know is that it won't be more than their current products, so < 80W for the SC Single, and < 1250W for the SC MR.

Keeping the 80W draw in mind, 

Bitcoin difficulty : 5388095.905910 (Once it doubles)
Drop is reward : 25

Keeping in mind that the Conversion rate doesn't change ( Which it probably will) 11.84 per bitcoin

Mining at 3.5Ghash/s

Power Consumption : 80w
Electricity rate: .15kWh

Time Frame: 18 months

Cost of mining hardware : 168 USD

That will return you close to 1,000 dollars. 

Not a bad investment.  With a 18month turn around. 
legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1000
September 17, 2012, 10:45:10 AM
#2
All we know is that it won't be more than their current products, so < 80W for the SC Single, and < 1250W for the SC MR.
full member
Activity: 170
Merit: 100
September 17, 2012, 10:43:07 AM
#1
Does anyone have any information about predicted power draw of the SC's?  Huh
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