[INFO] PCGS now grading Kialara and 1Hodlclub bars

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Quote from: BitLeafClover on August 10, 2024, 01:40:16 AM

I'm confused. I don't see an MSxx grading for Kialara. Are they not actually giving them a grade? Or am I missing something?

Based on the items above, they're being graded as "Genuine (80)" (PCGS tacks on the grade code to the end of the population).

You can verify this by looking up the certificate, for example https://www.pcgs.com/cert/49423411 for a Kialara.

That does seem to imply they're unwilling to grade them for value, but will still slab them and do a cursory authentication check.

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I'm confused. I don't see an MSxx grading for Kialara. Are they not actually giving them a grade? Or am I missing something?

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Quote from: minerjones on August 05, 2024, 10:02:35 AM

Quote from: CARIBBEAN_TREASURES on August 05, 2024, 09:41:34 AM

Quote from: minerjones on August 05, 2024, 07:26:09 AM

Update:

PCGS will NOT grade Casascius 2FA 1000 BTC gold coins

What was the reasoning?

That is a great question.
They have graded 2 other Cas 1000 BTC coins, but they were the loaded ones with address that was verifiable
Possibly due to them being 2FA coins? Huh

Interesting since they have graded some of the 2FA bars

The reasoning is they are clowns and have no true path to jack shit for any of our collectibles. Send something in one day they won’t grade but the next they likely will. They are clearly poorly managed, I mean how hard is it to have a 5mn meeting to discuss how grading is to work in “this” space. Or print a “crypto grading guideline “ and hand it out to all graders. I did go to business school in college, but learned this stuff in 3rd grade.

If anyone has a relationship w PCGS that extends enough to be able to get a reply from them (my success rate has been like 50/50) can you please ask who authenticates for them? My guess Elias, which is laughable, but maybe I’m wrong. They need to understand that their authenticator is not named MinerJones or Tweetious and is almost assuredly unqualified, which will lead to bad things down the road (my guess is they stop grading our coins in under 2 years).

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Quote from: CARIBBEAN_TREASURES on August 05, 2024, 09:41:34 AM

Quote from: minerjones on August 05, 2024, 07:26:09 AM

Update:

PCGS will NOT grade Casascius 2FA 1000 BTC gold coins

What was the reasoning?

That is a great question.
They have graded 2 other Cas 1000 BTC coins, but they were the loaded ones with address that was verifiable
Possibly due to them being 2FA coins? Huh

Interesting since they have graded some of the 2FA bars

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Quote from: minerjones on August 05, 2024, 07:26:09 AM

Update:

PCGS will NOT grade Casascius 2FA 1000 BTC gold coins

What was the reasoning?

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Update:

PCGS will NOT grade Casascius 2FA 1000 BTC gold coins

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Quote from: Spokanistan51 on July 16, 2024, 08:17:44 AM

I wonder what's up with the Kialara Artist series? They aren't bigger in size etc?

If I had to guess, it is because they are not keyed/assembled and/or do not have a hologram attached
The 3 examples I listed above along with the Cas Bowl Coin would indicate this is their reasoning

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I wonder what's up with the Kialara Artist series? They aren't bigger in size etc?

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OP has been updated with some new information on what PCGS will and won't grade.

New Additions:

PCGS YES: 1Hodl Halving Blocks

PCGS NO: Alitin Mint Adam Smith 2oz
Coin Bull
Kialara Artist Series

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Quote from: minerjones on March 27, 2024, 08:39:14 AM

Finally back in hand this morning...

The new slabs for the larger Kialara and 1Holdclub 5oz are HUUUUUGGGEEE :O

They will also slab the CaribbeanTreasures copper bars.

Regular sized slab with MyBits Lion in the middle shown for comparison

2nd picture shows a better size comparison of all the slabs

Wowzers these are some real lookers MJ! That is what I would call an Arsenal of BARS! Loving this! I wonder what the label would look like for buyer funded pieces? Will they accept them and authenticate even if they are note funded as well?

Also that silver mybits lion is so sick!!! Congrats to whoever got that high grade, even though it was just shown for comparison. The times piece is definitely quite a showcase piece! That slab looks like it could really stick a wedge in something haha. As for your comment on how the Alpen bars are not fixated properly within the slab, I wonder why they did that? Did the guy whose job that was to put them in just get lazy or something and not want to build a new mold I suspect? It still looks incredible in the slab either way. Just little details like that maybe we could give them some feedback or even question it.

Also, on this note I want to give a quick shout out to you MJ for being the best liaison for completely exceptional escrow/grading service turn around & being an anchor in this community. Keep up the great work m8!

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Quote from: minerjones on May 24, 2024, 12:56:11 PM

Just received back a newly slabbed 60mm Squirrelbits coin Cheesy

Although it is limited since most of the 60mm coins produced have profanity on them, which PCGS will not grade.

NIce , super nice, would love to grade most of my coin.

Good one profanity. ajaj .

I love that coin. time machine , if am correct its a set of 3 60mm coin . Cheesy

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Just received back a newly slabbed 60mm Squirrelbits coin Cheesy

Although it is limited since most of the 60mm coins produced have profanity on them, which PCGS will not grade.

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Quote from: minerjones on March 27, 2024, 08:39:14 AM

Finally back in hand this morning...

The new slabs for the larger Kialara and 1Holdclub 5oz are HUUUUUGGGEEE :O

They will also slab the CaribbeanTreasures copper bars.

Regular sized slab with MyBits Lion in the middle shown for comparison

2nd picture shows a better size comparison of all the slabs

Freaking awsome, makes me want to buy a hodlclub times now just for this...

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That HODL Club "The Times" bar is nuts! I've never seen that before! Shocked

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Finally back in hand this morning...

The new slabs for the larger Kialara and 1Holdclub 5oz are HUUUUUGGGEEE :O

They will also slab the CaribbeanTreasures copper bars.

Regular sized slab with MyBits Lion in the middle shown for comparison

2nd picture shows a better size comparison of all the slabs

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Quote from: Cryptogreatdane on March 25, 2024, 04:11:51 PM

Quote from: 2stout on March 25, 2024, 02:33:34 PM

One thing I would like to add is that PCGS won't grade or slab if the item contains profanity. Just don't want anyone wasting their time unless they want to chance it. My MYBITS Pennywise bits had this happen because of the word shit followed by coins, though still an excellent, great coin with a prominent, relevant message. I have no regrets!

seems kind of silly that profanity is the cutoff. I guess that rules out Squirrel bits being graded by them.

Maybe a lot of them but there are also some SquirrelBits without profanity. Perhaps this will change with PCGS but I wouldn't hold my breath as this apparently is a longstanding thing with them, even though I believe you would almost have to go down the rabbit hole to explicitly find where this is published.

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Quote from: 2stout on March 25, 2024, 02:33:34 PM

One thing I would like to add is that PCGS won't grade or slab if the item contains profanity. Just don't want anyone wasting their time unless they want to chance it. My MYBITS Pennywise bits had this happen because of the word shit followed by coins, though still an excellent, great coin with a prominent, relevant message. I have no regrets!

seems kind of silly that profanity is the cutoff. I guess that rules out Squirrel bits being graded by them.

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One thing I would like to add is that PCGS won't grade or slab if the item contains profanity. Just don't want anyone wasting their time unless they want to chance it. My MYBITS Pennywise bits had this happen because of the word shit followed by coins, though still an excellent, great coin with a prominent, relevant message. I have no regrets!

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I have updated the list in the OP.
Have added a few more that PCGS does now grade and also added a list of items that they will not currently grade.
Weird that they will not grade a Cas Bowl coin being that it is just a token... but maybe they will only grade physical cryptos if they have a hologram Huh

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Quote from: minerjones on March 13, 2024, 07:27:57 AM

Quote from: slimzak on March 12, 2024, 11:06:05 PM

Prices are pretty steep. I wonder if one could use the economy service for crypto coins

I would think yes, but have not used that level of service. I imagine the turn around time to be quite long....
And there are not too many coins left that fall under $300 evaluation... even unloaded coins are fetching above this on Stacks

For unloaded and low loads, might be able to use econonmy if the coins haven't been sold at an auction before, ex Stack's Bowers. Once sold at an auction, typically it's linked to the PCGS# in the pop report and the selling price(s) can be seen.

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