Topic: [INFO] PCGS now grading Kialara and 1Hodlclub bars (Read 738 times)
Wow!
Hello grading family! 
News from PCGS today:
I received a phone call today about one of my submissions...
Seems like they will no longer accept any crypto/bitcoin submissions under the "Regular" tier grading level
All grading now need to be either "Express" or "Special Issue", both which have a base cost of $70 per the representative.
So now that means for a single crypto item to now be graded with PCGS, it will be at a minimum $117 ($70 grading, $10 PCGS handling fee, $27 return ship (based on value), and $10 ship to PCGS)
News from PCGS today:
I received a phone call today about one of my submissions...
Seems like they will no longer accept any crypto/bitcoin submissions under the "Regular" tier grading level
All grading now need to be either "Express" or "Special Issue", both which have a base cost of $70 per the representative.
So now that means for a single crypto item to now be graded with PCGS, it will be at a minimum $117 ($70 grading, $10 PCGS handling fee, $27 return ship (based on value), and $10 ship to PCGS)
I'm confused. I don't see an MSxx grading for Kialara. Are they not actually giving them a grade? Or am I missing something?
Based on the items above, they're being graded as "Genuine (80)" (PCGS tacks on the grade code to the end of the population).
You can verify this by looking up the certificate, for example https://www.pcgs.com/cert/49423411 for a Kialara.
That does seem to imply they're unwilling to grade them for value, but will still slab them and do a cursory authentication check.
I'm confused. I don't see an MSxx grading for Kialara. Are they not actually giving them a grade? Or am I missing something?
Update:
PCGS will NOT grade Casascius 2FA 1000 BTC gold coins
PCGS will NOT grade Casascius 2FA 1000 BTC gold coins
What was the reasoning?
That is a great question.
They have graded 2 other Cas 1000 BTC coins, but they were the loaded ones with address that was verifiable
Possibly due to them being 2FA coins?
Interesting since they have graded some of the 2FA bars
The reasoning is they are clowns and have no true path to jack shit for any of our collectibles. Send something in one day they won’t grade but the next they likely will. They are clearly poorly managed, I mean how hard is it to have a 5mn meeting to discuss how grading is to work in “this” space. Or print a “crypto grading guideline “ and hand it out to all graders. I did go to business school in college, but learned this stuff in 3rd grade.
If anyone has a relationship w PCGS that extends enough to be able to get a reply from them (my success rate has been like 50/50) can you please ask who authenticates for them? My guess Elias, which is laughable, but maybe I’m wrong. They need to understand that their authenticator is not named MinerJones or Tweetious and is almost assuredly unqualified, which will lead to bad things down the road (my guess is they stop grading our coins in under 2 years).
Update:
PCGS will NOT grade Casascius 2FA 1000 BTC gold coins
PCGS will NOT grade Casascius 2FA 1000 BTC gold coins
What was the reasoning?
That is a great question.
They have graded 2 other Cas 1000 BTC coins, but they were the loaded ones with address that was verifiable
Possibly due to them being 2FA coins?
Interesting since they have graded some of the 2FA bars
Update:
PCGS will NOT grade Casascius 2FA 1000 BTC gold coins
PCGS will NOT grade Casascius 2FA 1000 BTC gold coins
What was the reasoning?
Update:
PCGS will NOT grade Casascius 2FA 1000 BTC gold coins
PCGS will NOT grade Casascius 2FA 1000 BTC gold coins
I wonder what's up with the Kialara Artist series? They aren't bigger in size etc?
If I had to guess, it is because they are not keyed/assembled and/or do not have a hologram attached
The 3 examples I listed above along with the Cas Bowl Coin would indicate this is their reasoning
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I wonder what's up with the Kialara Artist series? They aren't bigger in size etc?
OP has been updated with some new information on what PCGS will and won't grade.
New Additions:
PCGS YES: 1Hodl Halving Blocks
PCGS NO: Alitin Mint Adam Smith 2oz
Coin Bull
Kialara Artist Series
New Additions:
PCGS YES: 1Hodl Halving Blocks
PCGS NO: Alitin Mint Adam Smith 2oz
Coin Bull
Kialara Artist Series
Finally back in hand this morning...
The new slabs for the larger Kialara and 1Holdclub 5oz are HUUUUUGGGEEE :O
They will also slab the CaribbeanTreasures copper bars.
Regular sized slab with MyBits Lion in the middle shown for comparison
2nd picture shows a better size comparison of all the slabs
The new slabs for the larger Kialara and 1Holdclub 5oz are HUUUUUGGGEEE :O
They will also slab the CaribbeanTreasures copper bars.
Regular sized slab with MyBits Lion in the middle shown for comparison
2nd picture shows a better size comparison of all the slabs
Wowzers these are some real lookers MJ! That is what I would call an Arsenal of BARS! Loving this! I wonder what the label would look like for buyer funded pieces? Will they accept them and authenticate even if they are note funded as well?
Also that silver mybits lion is so sick!!! Congrats to whoever got that high grade, even though it was just shown for comparison. The times piece is definitely quite a showcase piece! That slab looks like it could really stick a wedge in something haha. As for your comment on how the Alpen bars are not fixated properly within the slab, I wonder why they did that? Did the guy whose job that was to put them in just get lazy or something and not want to build a new mold I suspect? It still looks incredible in the slab either way. Just little details like that maybe we could give them some feedback or even question it.
Also, on this note I want to give a quick shout out to you MJ for being the best liaison for completely exceptional escrow/grading service turn around & being an anchor in this community. Keep up the great work m8!
Just received back a newly slabbed 60mm Squirrelbits coin 
Although it is limited since most of the 60mm coins produced have profanity on them, which PCGS will not grade.
Although it is limited since most of the 60mm coins produced have profanity on them, which PCGS will not grade.
NIce , super nice, would love to grade most of my coin.
Good one profanity. ajaj .
I love that coin. time machine , if am correct its a set of 3 60mm coin .
Just received back a newly slabbed 60mm Squirrelbits coin
Although it is limited since most of the 60mm coins produced have profanity on them, which PCGS will not grade.
Although it is limited since most of the 60mm coins produced have profanity on them, which PCGS will not grade.
Finally back in hand this morning...
The new slabs for the larger Kialara and 1Holdclub 5oz are HUUUUUGGGEEE :O
They will also slab the CaribbeanTreasures copper bars.
Regular sized slab with MyBits Lion in the middle shown for comparison
2nd picture shows a better size comparison of all the slabs
The new slabs for the larger Kialara and 1Holdclub 5oz are HUUUUUGGGEEE :O
They will also slab the CaribbeanTreasures copper bars.
Regular sized slab with MyBits Lion in the middle shown for comparison
2nd picture shows a better size comparison of all the slabs
Freaking awsome, makes me want to buy a hodlclub times now just for this...
That HODL Club "The Times" bar is nuts! I've never seen that before! 
Finally back in hand this morning...
The new slabs for the larger Kialara and 1Holdclub 5oz are HUUUUUGGGEEE :O
They will also slab the CaribbeanTreasures copper bars.
Regular sized slab with MyBits Lion in the middle shown for comparison
2nd picture shows a better size comparison of all the slabs
The new slabs for the larger Kialara and 1Holdclub 5oz are HUUUUUGGGEEE :O
They will also slab the CaribbeanTreasures copper bars.
Regular sized slab with MyBits Lion in the middle shown for comparison
2nd picture shows a better size comparison of all the slabs
One thing I would like to add is that PCGS won't grade or slab if the item contains profanity. Just don't want anyone wasting their time unless they want to chance it. My MYBITS Pennywise bits had this happen because of the word shit followed by coins, though still an excellent, great coin with a prominent, relevant message. I have no regrets!
seems kind of silly that profanity is the cutoff. I guess that rules out Squirrel bits being graded by them.
Maybe a lot of them but there are also some SquirrelBits without profanity. Perhaps this will change with PCGS but I wouldn't hold my breath as this apparently is a longstanding thing with them, even though I believe you would almost have to go down the rabbit hole to explicitly find where this is published.
One thing I would like to add is that PCGS won't grade or slab if the item contains profanity. Just don't want anyone wasting their time unless they want to chance it. My MYBITS Pennywise bits had this happen because of the word shit followed by coins, though still an excellent, great coin with a prominent, relevant message. I have no regrets!
seems kind of silly that profanity is the cutoff. I guess that rules out Squirrel bits being graded by them.
One thing I would like to add is that PCGS won't grade or slab if the item contains profanity. Just don't want anyone wasting their time unless they want to chance it. My MYBITS Pennywise bits had this happen because of the word shit followed by coins, though still an excellent, great coin with a prominent, relevant message. I have no regrets!
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