Topic: [INITIATIVE] Stop all "altcoin wars" in one click - page 2. (Read 1869 times)

I would think, at least in theory that most of the trolls are trolling other alt coins because they want to destroy the competition. If they had to resort to using bots then they may do so. Although I admit this argument is somewhat weak.
There are very few non-scammy reasons to create a self moderated thread. The most responsible way to do so is to make your own post of what you delete, or otherwise preserve what is deleted for public view. this is an example of this.

There are other reasons to delete messages on self moderated threads that are legit but they are few and far between.
I would say if someone is truly breaking the rules then they should be dealt with by the mods (e.g. with a forum ban) as if they troll one thread they will likely troll other threads as well.

Just because someone spams a thread one time does not mean they will repeatedly do so. That person should have the right to add something to the conversation at a later time. If the mods will ban someone for actually breaking the rules then there is no legit reason for someone to ban someone from a specific thread.
Well it makes it more difficult for someone like tomatocage or Vod (or the altcoin equivalent) to warn others about a potential scam. If someone were to create an uncensored version of a scam coin then it may not get posted in as much so it would quickly get lost while the self moderated thread would remain active.

No it isn't. Trolls aren't really using bots to create their accounts; those tend to just be spambots and the user can just ban them as fast too, but that's their prerogative, but you could make the same argument about self-modded threads.


Again, no I'm not. Are you proposing there's no non-scammy reason to self-mod a thread? Trolls who repeatedly post in someones thread can be banned if they've been told not to and this would cut work out for the mods who don't have to deal with such petty instances. If we have self-modded threads then this isn't really much different and those who want to comment without censorship will just do so in a new thread just like they do with self-modded ones they want to freely comment on.

1) about email: majority of users don't care about their privacy
2) the rest can register an anon one at safe-mail.net for example or service like 10minutemail.com
UPD: anyway you need an email to register or recover password

email verification makes it more difficult for people to operate anon. The ability to be anon is very highly valued. A more difficult captcha is going to be more difficult for legit users.

If your altcoin has actual potential/value then over the long term people will see that and will ignore the trolls.

i'm not sure about someone being skeptical regarding moderated threads. there are tons of them (legit coins):

Counterparty  - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annxcp-counterparty-pioneering-peer-to-peer-finance-official-thread-395761
NODE  - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-thread-590421
NEM - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nem-xem-official-thread-100-new-code-easy-to-use-apis-654845
Monero - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xmr-monero-speculation-753252
Qora - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/qora-100-pos-assets-names-voting-open-source-881230

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Its in the unofficial rules that OPs have the right to create a set of rules, and to have those enforced. If the OP in an altcoin thread doesn't want some users to post in their thread, then they have that right to a peaceful discussion. Self moderated threads and deleting posts as an OP just makes the trolls madder and post more often, as soon as they get notifications that their previous posts were deleted.

there should also be email verification and non-breakable captcha (like https://www.keycaptcha.com/ - friendly for humans, deadly for bots). this would increase time for creating an account for sockpuppet masters. most of them will be gone. the whole altcoin section is going nowhere without things like that.

Your logic is invalid. As mentioned in other threads on here, some people are creating accounts via bots. They could probably create accounts and post faster then you can "ban" a user.

Additionally you are lacking a non-scam use of this proposed feature. If someone is actually breaking the rules then you can report the posts for a moderator to take action against them, or you can send a PM to a mod, or you can create a thread here about their activity.

But trolls also do the same. People are already sceptical of users who self-mod threads anyway and they will be even more so when they're banning legit users. You could also say banning doesn't work because they can just create a new account. They usually get bored of doing so pretty quick.

it tells you when a thread is moderated, so participating is your choice (or not), you are free to choose.

this really saves a lot of time. this would be good for all of us (except sockpuppet masters of course)

please re-read the topic before posting next time

When someone is deleting posts on a self moderated thread (and they are scamming) then people often are going to post their warnings a second time (and subsequent times as necessary).

This would really not work anyway because people could just create an additional account when they get banned from posting in it

It's been suggested before somewhere. It's not necessarily a bad idea, though I wouldn't use it, but I wouldn't ever self-moderate a thread either.


Not really much difference between self-modding a thread. Of course people would abuse it but people can just create their own thread anyway.

People dont want and need to be censored, you can start your own forum if you want that ;-)

You have self moderated threads which allows the OP to delete unwanted posts. However most self moderated threads that are active in deleting critical posts are scams, this would only make it easier for scams to be successful.

The most common legit reason why OP's of self moderated threads delete posts is because they are spam. It would be possible for the same person who spammed a thread to later make a legit post with good points.

All threads are moderated, just not self moderated

1) there are moderated threads where OPs remove all unwanted messages.
2) people can create own topic in the altcoin discussion section and discuss it without moderation

in brief, this is like moderated thread but saves more time because you don't need to watch your thread 24/7 and remove BS. you just need to ban fudders let's say once a day.

we have moderated threads = censorship

we have free speech.

I don't think this would work very well. It would prevent people from expressing legitimate concerns about your altcoin.

Problem
It's not a secret that there are a lot of battles in altcoin section. coins adepts attack each other and it creates spam, flood, fud, offtopic and noncence. creating a moderated thread doesn't solve the problem. mods remove all these useless posts but spamers create new ones. and mods can't work nonstop. what to do?
 
Solution
i suggest to code a feature like "ban a user from own topic so he/she couldn't post in the topic any longer (read-only in this topic)"
something like this:
https://i.imgur.com/96ZO85U.jpg

this will work because creating a spam account takes let's say 5 minutes. to "ban" this account it takes less than 5 seconds. majority of fudders/flooders/spamers will be gone.

Results
- saving mods' time
- no more fud
- no more flood
- no more other noncence
- civil discussions
- reincarnates the section