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Topic: Insane sig spam in gambling section? (Read 2147 times)

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November 04, 2015, 03:42:31 PM
#26
I didnt want to open another thread but i also noticed a lot of spam in the lending section, like if you are not going to give a loan you shouldn't be posting anything at all in the first place. Everytime a newbie asks for a loan, 10 posts appear within seconds telling him he needs to use collateral, im not saying it's bad but with 1 person saying it, it's more than enough and it's obvious the ones that are posting there are doing it for their signature campaign, pretty sad.
it's a lot more wide spread than you think, there's similar stuff going on in the digital goods section too. plenty of "vouch please," "do you have a signed message available," "pm me the account so I can look at post history," etc you get the idea. again, it's not bad that a person asks these things, but is apparent people are spamming these questions when 10 or so people ask the same question within minutes. it's probably just as bad in several other sections too.

I dont usually go to those sections but then again im not sure if reporting them would do anything but reck my report accuracy since it's not real spam, i guess? There should be a new rule for that, although i understand it's hard since some people are probably doing it because they want to help or they want to buy something, i guess i could take a look at each profile and see if he is doing it more than once but it's really not my job.
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November 04, 2015, 03:12:30 PM
#25
I didnt want to open another thread but i also noticed a lot of spam in the lending section, like if you are not going to give a loan you shouldn't be posting anything at all in the first place. Everytime a newbie asks for a loan, 10 posts appear within seconds telling him he needs to use collateral, im not saying it's bad but with 1 person saying it, it's more than enough and it's obvious the ones that are posting there are doing it for their signature campaign, pretty sad.
it's a lot more wide spread than you think, there's similar stuff going on in the digital goods section too. plenty of "vouch please," "do you have a signed message available," "pm me the account so I can look at post history," etc you get the idea. again, it's not bad that a person asks these things, but is apparent people are spamming these questions when 10 or so people ask the same question within minutes. it's probably just as bad in several other sections too.

edit: currency exchange section: "no reversible payment," "bla bla bla paypal bla bla 180 days reversible," etc. beginners and help section is the same; a question is asked and a near-identical answer is plastered all over the thread at least 40 times.
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November 04, 2015, 02:40:27 PM
#24
I didnt want to open another thread but i also noticed a lot of spam in the lending section, like if you are not going to give a loan you shouldn't be posting anything at all in the first place. Everytime a newbie asks for a loan, 10 posts appear within seconds telling him he needs to use collateral, im not saying it's bad but with 1 person saying it, it's more than enough and it's obvious the ones that are posting there are doing it for their signature campaign, pretty sad.
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November 03, 2015, 08:59:50 AM
#23
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You do know that in the event of a ban the posts do not get removed most of the time, right? Whether or not a post was removed is not a valid indicator of BadBear taking actions against spammers. If you see a spammy post, check the users post history. Is it an exception? Let it be. Is it the norm, report it to the mods and let them know about the users overal posting behaviour. I dont think this would result in bad reports.

But even if its an exception it's still spam, on the strategy for dice thread there are literally over 100 users spamming the same thing, even if it's only their only spammy post, something has to be done. Wasn't there a rule that you couldn't post more than 1 post of the same casino unless you had something new to add? That rule should apply to ''dice strategies'' aswell and lock all the other threads and just leave one.

Yes, spammers get banned. Spam is rarely cleaned up.
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November 03, 2015, 08:20:44 AM
#22
Hmm.. watching a cycle in which the shame posts are quoted and replied and quoted and replied is really annoying . I do very less quote replies. I think if you think that so @xinxan why dont you report to moderator then ?

Because i tried that already and they don't get deleted 99% of the times because they are not considered off-topic. Of course they are not off-topic but they are just repetitive and useless so i dont bother anymore to report them because the only thing i get in return is bad accuracy on my reports

You do know that in the event of a ban the posts do not get removed most of the time, right? Whether or not a post was removed is not a valid indicator of BadBear taking actions against spammers. If you see a spammy post, check the users post history. Is it an exception? Let it be. Is it the norm, report it to the mods and let them know about the users overal posting behaviour. I dont think this would result in bad reports.

But even if its an exception it's still spam, on the strategy for dice thread there are literally over 100 users spamming the same thing, even if it's only their only spammy post, something has to be done. Wasn't there a rule that you couldn't post more than 1 post of the same casino unless you had something new to add? That rule should apply to ''dice strategies'' aswell and lock all the other threads and just leave one.
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November 03, 2015, 04:05:06 AM
#21
Hmm.. watching a cycle in which the shame posts are quoted and replied and quoted and replied is really annoying . I do very less quote replies. I think if you think that so @xinxan why dont you report to moderator then ?

Because i tried that already and they don't get deleted 99% of the times because they are not considered off-topic. Of course they are not off-topic but they are just repetitive and useless so i dont bother anymore to report them because the only thing i get in return is bad accuracy on my reports

You do know that in the event of a ban the posts do not get removed most of the time, right? Whether or not a post was removed is not a valid indicator of BadBear taking actions against spammers. If you see a spammy post, check the users post history. Is it an exception? Let it be. Is it the norm, report it to the mods and let them know about the users overal posting behaviour. I dont think this would result in bad reports.
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November 03, 2015, 04:02:38 AM
#20
Hmm.. watching a cycle in which the shame posts are quoted and replied and quoted and replied is really annoying . I do very less quote replies. I think if you think that so @xinxan why dont you report to moderator then ?

Because i tried that already and they don't get deleted 99% of the times because they are not considered off-topic. Of course they are not off-topic but they are just repetitive and useless so i dont bother anymore to report them because the only thing i get in return is bad accuracy on my reports
I've have already suggested the rules to be changed so that duplicate posts are not allowed, but nothing happened. I would love to just ban everyone that posts shit with a paid signature or just ban signature campaigns in general. It generates so much crap (which is why I stopped wearing a paid signature).
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November 03, 2015, 03:59:51 AM
#19
Hmm.. watching a cycle in which the shame posts are quoted and replied and quoted and replied is really annoying . I do very less quote replies. I think if you think that so @xinxan why dont you report to moderator then ?

Because i tried that already and they don't get deleted 99% of the times because they are not considered off-topic. Of course they are not off-topic but they are just repetitive and useless so i dont bother anymore to report them because the only thing i get in return is bad accuracy on my reports
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November 03, 2015, 03:05:36 AM
#18
Hmm.. watching a cycle in which the shame posts are quoted and replied and quoted and replied is really annoying . I do very less quote replies. I think if you think that so @xinxan why dont you report to moderator then ?
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November 03, 2015, 02:43:19 AM
#17
We can argue all we want but at the end of the day the mods will take no action, i think we need some new rules around here
You have to convince them that a specific post deserve to be deleted. (report it and give a clear description)

I can open a post in the off topic section for example: how many hair do you have in your head/body? Then you will find hundred posts with random numbers or people saying impossible to count which is repeated many times. So basically, i don't see why mods should delete this ''stupid'' topic nor its silly responses which remains on topic...

Making new rules? For example: do not open an off topic topic in the off topic section? Or do not reply to an answered topic?
Well, when someone opened a topic and asked a specific question, he will get a first reply, a second guy will come and he thinks that the answer isn't complete so he will add another thing, the 3rd one will correct an already posted answer, the OP still didn't say anything so people will continue posting... He just need to lock the topic when he get the helpful answer...

Do Not understood me wrong, i am pissed off of many topics, replies... but asking mods to delete thousands of posts isn't a solution.

Spammers will continue spamming even if they are not enrolled in signature compaign.
Limiting posts on specific section(s) for signature compaign will lead to an intelligent way of spam on this section(s) . For example in the gambling section, i found many times a ~whole page in which the replies come from boys in the same sign comp..

@OP, if you think that your message is transmitted please lock this topic.

As i said the solution it's pretty easy, get mods to lock the thread. Im pretty sure people wouldn't spam if they weren't participating in a sig campaign because what would be the point? The only people that spammed were the ones who were trying to ''level up'' their accounts but it's nothing compared to sig spammers.
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November 03, 2015, 01:04:11 AM
#16
yes sig spam is always on every post. i think it needs to stop soon.
legendary
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November 02, 2015, 08:21:59 PM
#15
We can argue all we want but at the end of the day the mods will take no action, i think we need some new rules around here
You have to convince them that a specific post deserve to be deleted. (report it and give a clear description)

I can open a post in the off topic section for example: how many hair do you have in your head/body? Then you will find hundred posts with random numbers or people saying impossible to count which is repeated many times. So basically, i don't see why mods should delete this ''stupid'' topic nor its silly responses which remains on topic...

Making new rules? For example: do not open an off topic topic in the off topic section? Or do not reply to an answered topic?
Well, when someone opened a topic and asked a specific question, he will get a first reply, a second guy will come and he thinks that the answer isn't complete so he will add another thing, the 3rd one will correct an already posted answer, the OP still didn't say anything so people will continue posting... He just need to lock the topic when he get the helpful answer...

Do Not understood me wrong, i am pissed off of many topics, replies... but asking mods to delete thousands of posts isn't a solution.

Spammers will continue spamming even if they are not enrolled in signature compaign.
Limiting posts on specific section(s) for signature compaign will lead to an intelligent way of spam on this section(s) . For example in the gambling section, i found many times a ~whole page in which the replies come from boys in the same sign comp..

@OP, if you think that your message is transmitted please lock this topic.
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November 02, 2015, 08:02:10 PM
#14
We can argue all we want but at the end of the day the mods will take no action, i think we need some new rules around here

i think so coz almost everyweek we can see 2 or 3 new threads asking the same thing over and over again but i wonder why those kinds of thread doesnt get deleted or locked and some threads are created by high ranking members which obviously a spam coz they didnt even spend a time searching the gambling section for the same kind of thread
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November 02, 2015, 07:44:23 PM
#13
We can argue all we want but at the end of the day the mods will take no action, i think we need some new rules around here
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November 02, 2015, 01:57:47 PM
#12
The current state of the Gambling forum is absolutely pathetic. I could give literally thousands of examples but a clear one is the topic "Can gambling be profitable in long term?". It has 31 pages of replies - currently 614 (!!) replies. There should be literally 1 reply:


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No, gambling is generally not profitable in the long term. There are a few exemptions:
1) The casino gives you a positive edge (very unlikely since casino gives away free money this way - so only possible with short term bonus/promo.)
2) You cheat, like counting cards at blackjack.
3) It is a game where actual skill is involved (generally a game against other players), for example poker. Since there is still luck involved you need proper bankroll management to be still profitable against any variance in the long term.


I don't see how there can be any need of any other reply after an answer like that. There are simply no more answers, that is THE answer. The answer is not an opinion, it is a fact. Still the signature campaign spammers manage to make 614 replies (and counting.) That is just really, really insane. Basically all replies in there are the same, formulated in a slightly different way. That is 100% spam. But yeh... I wouldn't even know how to start reporting those? Would I need to report all ~600 "duplicate" replies? Equally I think it would be very difficult for moderators to start removing those replies without some clear rules about it.



I do not know what the best solution is. Banning everyone who makes a "repeating reply"? Well it can happen by mistake sometimes. Banning all signature campaigns? I don't know, in theory I like the way of earning some bits while posting. But it is really a problem that seems to be getting worse and worse.


PS, to at least get a high quality overview of topics again, I like to link to "Is it possible to separate businesses and gambling discussion". That is slightly related, although it would not solve this problem (would "solve" the topics, not the replies.)

PS2, the fact that other forums are "worse" does not mean that this isn't a problem in "Gambling" too. The difference would actually be that "Gambling" used to be fairly high quality posts and "Games and Rounds" replies were always shit. Also people don't really look at the replies in "Games and Rounds" forum so I personally don't mind the spam there that much compared to "Gambling" forum.

Yes exactly and there are way too many posts with basically the same topic like the one you linked.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-their-any-safe-methods-to-gamble-1232896

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-much-can-you-earn-with-gambling-1193738

Those two are basically the same and they both have a lot of posts it's ridiculous.

The only solution i can think of is to lock the threads instead of banning everyone and lock any other duplicate thread.
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November 02, 2015, 12:47:02 PM
#11
The current state of the Gambling forum is absolutely pathetic. I could give literally thousands of examples but a clear one is the topic "Can gambling be profitable in long term?". It has 31 pages of replies - currently 614 (!!) replies. There should be literally 1 reply:


Quote
No, gambling is generally not profitable in the long term. There are a few exemptions:
1) The casino gives you a positive edge (very unlikely since casino gives away free money this way - so only possible with short term bonus/promo.)
2) You cheat, like counting cards at blackjack.
3) It is a game where actual skill is involved (generally a game against other players), for example poker. Since there is still luck involved you need proper bankroll management to be still profitable against any variance in the long term.


I don't see how there can be any need of any other reply after an answer like that. There are simply no more answers, that is THE answer. The answer is not an opinion, it is a fact. Still the signature campaign spammers manage to make 614 replies (and counting.) That is just really, really insane. Basically all replies in there are the same, formulated in a slightly different way. That is 100% spam. But yeh... I wouldn't even know how to start reporting those? Would I need to report all ~600 "duplicate" replies? Equally I think it would be very difficult for moderators to start removing those replies without some clear rules about it.



I do not know what the best solution is. Banning everyone who makes a "repeating reply"? Well it can happen by mistake sometimes. Banning all signature campaigns? I don't know, in theory I like the way of earning some bits while posting. But it is really a problem that seems to be getting worse and worse.


PS, to at least get a high quality overview of topics again, I like to link to "Is it possible to separate businesses and gambling discussion". That is slightly related, although it would not solve this problem (would "solve" the topics, not the replies.)

PS2, the fact that other forums are "worse" does not mean that this isn't a problem in "Gambling" too. The difference would actually be that "Gambling" used to be fairly high quality posts and "Games and Rounds" replies were always shit. Also people don't really look at the replies in "Games and Rounds" forum so I personally don't mind the spam there that much compared to "Gambling" forum.
legendary
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November 02, 2015, 06:55:48 AM
#10
I noticed this throughout the marketplace child boards for awhile now. By now, it must be getting annoying when active and useful threads are being bumped down by repeated, slightly reworded responses.
legendary
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November 02, 2015, 06:52:05 AM
#9
I just reported this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-is-it-that-we-cant-see-trust-ratings-of-users-on-thier-posts-1234784. I know that my report will be ignored as the posts aren't off topic but still I mentioned my complaint in the report as 7 people are recommending yobit campaign after the first person already recommending the same. It should be considered as spam or atleast MODs should lock such threads to avoid similar replies to the topics. It doesn't matter if the user has/doesn't have a signature as even those who aren't enrolled in campaigns also tend to reply to such threads just to increase their rank.
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November 02, 2015, 04:07:45 AM
#8
What you guys are failing to see here is most users whom create theose threads are in sig campaigns and theyll make a thread like that to reply over n over again to get their posts counts. Also they use their alt accounts to answer the same questions as well

Yes i know and thats why they wont bother locking the thread but some posts are really just copies of others. Like dice game strategies, there are like 3 of those with 20+ pages of posts in each. That shouldn't be allowed.
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November 01, 2015, 08:39:07 PM
#7
What you guys are failing to see here is most users whom create theose threads are in sig campaigns and theyll make a thread like that to reply over n over again to get their posts counts. Also they use their alt accounts to answer the same questions as well
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