Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again - page 2.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on May 18, 2018, 11:33:34 AM

However, remember that the merit system is still only about 4 months old. That's pretty young in the grand scheme of things. Maybe after a year or so, it'll become common knowledge that you won't be earning merits from shitty posts. Maybe. Hopefully.

I want to discuss that a bit on blab if you get a chance to look in. I think we could tune the awarding of merits for everybody's benefit, and improve board quality at the same time. I think that Theymos is keen for good posters to improve their ranking, and maybe we can help in this. Hence this series of threads by me.

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I've always heard it was Einstein who coined that phrase--and we use it a LOT in the recovery community, because it's exactly what drug addicts experience when they've learned that they can't use substances safely and yet keep trying to do just that.

As far as merits go, yep there's a little bit of this going on. Some people have figured it out, but the ones who are apparently incapable of learning keep trying the same thing, and they're the ones who keep complaining that they're not earning merits. I suspect they'll eventually either try to make better posts or give up trying to earn merits. Nobody can go on forever and not learn that kind of lesson. But another problem is the newcomer to bitcointalk who's not familiar with the merit system--they're going to have to learn this from scratch, and there's no way of really telling who's new here and who's an alt account.

However, remember that the merit system is still only about 4 months old. That's pretty young in the grand scheme of things. Maybe after a year or so, it'll become common knowledge that you won't be earning merits from shitty posts. Maybe. Hopefully.

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Quote from: Steamtyme on May 18, 2018, 11:06:50 AM

Did we really need another Merit thread?

I get that you have sound advice for those out there still trying and caring; but could you not have posted this in 1 even 2 of the more active Merit or Merit guidance threads?

I reflected on that before starting the thread, and I decided that this topic is not directly about merit. It is about the clogging of threads and boards, and the obfuscation of decent posts. Today's mission is to try to reduce the worthless spam posts by making the posters aware of the damage that they do to their own prospects, and the prospects of their peers.

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Quote from: sham100899 on May 18, 2018, 11:01:02 AM

I see. People have different point of views. The reason why I suggest that is because I saw TMAN doing that. Merit is very valuable nowadays that is why many users do the best they can to receive some.

I don't want to compete with TMAN, we all have to approach merit awarding in a responsible, but individualistic fashion, that ensures that we can maintain the richness in the variety of good posting.

I try to avoid the merit hunters, and I often put them on ignore. Merit is an award for the immersion and support of the forum, and not for self-gratification as a result of sycophantic posting.

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While I enjoy the quote and have had it be relevant, enough times in my life for it to hold truth with me.

Did we really need another Merit thread?

I get that you have sound advice for those out there still trying and caring; but could you not have posted this in 1 even 2 of the more active Merit or Merit guidance threads? I can also understand wanting people to see that advice, but after the first page, the only people who will read that are going to quote it and write something that isn't relevant.

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Quote from: Jet Cash on May 18, 2018, 10:52:06 AM

Quote from: sham100899 on May 18, 2018, 10:26:18 AM

I saw your thread that you need help to award merit, I suggest what if you create something like "Trivia Questions" the one who can answer the question correctly and satisfy you will be rewarded by merit. By doing that they will do research and read to answer your question.

That's really against my merit policy. I don't want people to suggest meritable posts to me, and I don't want to start using merits for competition rewards. I think merits should be given as part of the normal flow of the boards.

I see. People have different point of views. The reason why I suggest that is because I saw TMAN doing that. Merit is very valuable nowadays that is why many users do the best they can to receive some.

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Quote from: sham100899 on May 18, 2018, 10:26:18 AM

The reason why many members (including myself) do same thing over and over again is because of :
1. Laziness - One of the greatest enemy of success. Simply because some members are so lazy to research, to read, to acquire knowledge. One of the reasons why they tend to do things over and over again.

And yet those members are the ones complaining about the merit system, ranting about how hard and complicated it is to earn a single merit where in fact they know what they should be doing right now to earn themselves enough merit to rank up.
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Quote from: sham100899 on May 18, 2018, 10:26:18 AM

I saw your thread that you need help to award merit, I suggest what if you create something like "Trivia Questions" the one who can answer the question correctly and satisfy you will be rewarded by merit. By doing that they will do research and read to answer your question.

That's really against my merit policy. I don't want people to suggest meritable posts to me, and I don't want to start using merits for competition rewards. I think merits should be given as part of the normal flow of the boards.

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The reason why many members (including myself) do same thing over and over again is because of :
1. Laziness - One of the greatest enemy of success. Simply because some members are so lazy to research, to read, to acquire knowledge. One of the reasons why they tend to do things over and over again.

I saw your thread that you need help to award merit, I suggest what if you create something like "Trivia Questions" the one who can answer the question correctly and satisfy you will be rewarded by merit. By doing that they will do research and read to answer your question.

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The problem is that many members have a negative look or view on the Merit system, that's why they do not get some points , and always complain, unfortunately, this issue is pervasive in many of them.

You must adapt to all situations, and the most essential thing is how to accept the truth and try to deal with it in a smart way, and if you will achieve that , then it is certain that you will get what you want.

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Quote from: Jet Cash on May 18, 2018, 08:53:21 AM

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Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

I still have not found who actually said this LOL

update:
In quora I see there are some healthy discussions but not satisfactory conclusion though.

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Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

This quote is often attributed to Albert Einstein, but Business Insider seems to think that it is a misattribution -
http://www.businessinsider.com/misattributed-quotes-2013-10?IR=T

Whoever said it was correct to a certain extent, and it is true of the quest for merits. If your posting habits are largely repetitive, and after 100+ posts, you still haven't received any merit, then reflect on that quotation. It really is time to learn and research so that you can change the direction of your posting.

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