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yodog
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Re: instawallet has fallen new owner stealing
March 17, 2013, 05:31:40 AM
#121
Quote from: yodog on March 16, 2013, 06:27:49 AM
My 52.39 btc is also 'missing' sent from one instawallet to another address and the coins are not showing up in the block chain, and the new address isn't showing up either cause its never been used.....

and yet on the address where the 52.39 btc were sent from shows unspent coins but they are no longer in the instawallet Sad

http://blockchain.info/unspent?active=17iQhdkNpoxYcNNcXodPjTWUqSuTC8XaF4&format=html   

The coins showed up to the sent wallet, so everything has been resolved. I know for next time to just use a bitcoin mixer and just pay the 1-3% fee...
molecular
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Re: instawallet has fallen new owner stealing
March 17, 2013, 04:28:36 AM
#120
Quote from: Herodes on March 16, 2013, 07:37:35 PM
Quote from: thewindrock on March 16, 2013, 07:11:38 PM
im actually an itelectual bad ass I was about to send the 740 btc to a secure wallet I was just using instawallet as a quick holder for a few days as I built my new system and poof it was gone. but either way that is the amount I can afford to lose and not die over, but even if I only had 2 BTC stolen I would still try to get them back or alert other people..Im not stupid Its not like I put 20,000 bitcoins In an online wallet.

Calling troll on this one.

definitely.

EDIT: why use an online wallet to temporarily store sizable amounts of coins. Use a paper wallet or vanitygen or whatever for fucks sake.

EDIT2: shit, I fell for the troll
Phinnaeus Gage
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Re: instawallet has fallen new owner stealing
March 17, 2013, 03:56:52 AM
#119
Quote from: davout on March 16, 2013, 08:04:21 PM
Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on March 16, 2013, 07:34:03 PM
I like IW, but something has changed recently and I can't put my finger on it.

[...]

~Bruno K~

PS: To be clear, the wallet address is 1JppeHVdYQEBGR4uHVTqLQsb2FY1wUTziH

Dear Bruno,

Instawallet has always worked like a shared wallet, nothing has ever changed in this respect.

The fact you used to see coins remain at the deposit address simply means that :
 - there used to be less coin turnover,
 - the cold storage was less used,
 - any combination of the previous reasons.

Some stuff does change though, you used to get your transaction ID back immediately when sending coins, that's not the case anymore, sends are now asynchronously handled by a background worker. That's much more secure in terms of potential race conditions, much more robust in terms of infrastructure, much more maintenable (since now I can simply stop the worker, do some work on bitcoind and switch it back on).

The traffic also increases a lot, to give you an idea, our average weekly turnover is around 10kBTC in, and 10kBTC out, it recently peaked at around 50kBTC/week.

Your wallet has exactly the amount you expect to be available, you can't rely on blockchain.info to tell you how much is available in an account on a shared wallet.

This is how your balance is calculated :



Hope it's clearer Smiley

That's a fine explanation I can live with. Thanks, bud.

~Bruno K~
rpietila
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Re: instawallet has fallen new owner stealing
March 17, 2013, 03:52:51 AM
#118
Quote from: thewindrock on March 16, 2013, 07:11:38 PM
im actually an itelectual bad ass I was about to send the 740 btc to a secure wallet I was just using instawallet as a quick holder for a few days as I built my new system and poof it was gone. but either way that is the amount I can afford to lose and not die over, but even if I only had 2 BTC stolen I would still try to get them back or alert other people..Im not stupid Its not like I put 20,000 bitcoins In an online wallet.

Use easywallet.org for this kind of stuff:
- I know the operator
- He receives 0.0335% daily fee for the storage so he does not need to steal
- There is an automatic, functioning mixer

MAC
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Re: instawallet has fallen new owner stealing
March 16, 2013, 08:39:44 PM
#117
Quote from: davout on March 16, 2013, 08:04:21 PM
Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on March 16, 2013, 07:34:03 PM
I like IW, but something has changed recently and I can't put my finger on it.

[...]

~Bruno K~

PS: To be clear, the wallet address is 1JppeHVdYQEBGR4uHVTqLQsb2FY1wUTziH

Dear Bruno,

Instawallet has always worked like a shared wallet, nothing has ever changed in this respect.

The fact you used to see coins remain at the deposit address simply means that :
 - there used to be less coin turnover,
 - the cold storage was less used,
 - any combination of the previous reasons.

Some stuff does change though, you used to get your transaction ID back immediately when sending coins, that's not the case anymore, sends are now asynchronously handled by a background worker. That's much more secure in terms of potential race conditions, much more robust in terms of infrastructure, much more maintenable (since now I can simply stop the worker, do some work on bitcoind and switch it back on).

The traffic also increases a lot, to give you an idea, our average weekly turnover is around 10kBTC in, and 10kBTC out, it recently peaked at around 50kBTC/week.

Your wallet has exactly the amount you expect to be available, you can't rely on blockchain.info to tell you how much is available in an account on a shared wallet.

This is how your balance is calculated :



Hope it's clearer Smiley
You've always being running a fractional reserve bank through.
davout
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Re: instawallet has fallen new owner stealing
March 16, 2013, 08:04:21 PM
#116
Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on March 16, 2013, 07:34:03 PM
I like IW, but something has changed recently and I can't put my finger on it.

[...]

~Bruno K~

PS: To be clear, the wallet address is 1JppeHVdYQEBGR4uHVTqLQsb2FY1wUTziH

Dear Bruno,

Instawallet has always worked like a shared wallet, nothing has ever changed in this respect.

The fact you used to see coins remain at the deposit address simply means that :
 - there used to be less coin turnover,
 - the cold storage was less used,
 - any combination of the previous reasons.

Some stuff does change though, you used to get your transaction ID back immediately when sending coins, that's not the case anymore, sends are now asynchronously handled by a background worker. That's much more secure in terms of potential race conditions, much more robust in terms of infrastructure, much more maintenable (since now I can simply stop the worker, do some work on bitcoind and switch it back on).

The traffic also increases a lot, to give you an idea, our average weekly turnover is around 10kBTC in, and 10kBTC out, it recently peaked at around 50kBTC/week.

Your wallet has exactly the amount you expect to be available, you can't rely on blockchain.info to tell you how much is available in an account on a shared wallet.

This is how your balance is calculated :



Hope it's clearer Smiley
Injust
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Re: instawallet has fallen new owner stealing
March 16, 2013, 08:02:34 PM
#115
Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on March 16, 2013, 07:34:03 PM
Quote from: yodog on March 16, 2013, 06:27:49 AM
My 52.39 btc is also 'missing' sent from one instawallet to another address and the coins are not showing up in the block chain, and the new address isn't showing up either cause its never been used.....

and yet on the address where the 52.39 btc were sent from shows unspent coins but they are no longer in the instawallet Sad

http://blockchain.info/unspent?active=17iQhdkNpoxYcNNcXodPjTWUqSuTC8XaF4&format=html    

I like IW, but something has changed recently and I can't put my finger on it.

Before, I was able to see my wallet in BlockChain and it will have the same amount as I view it on IW's URL page. Now the BlockChain continues to read 0 available with the coins set to some other address(es), yet still see a balance on the IW URL page. I'm still able to send coins and they get to their destination rather quickly.

To see what I mean, here's an address I set up to pay out a bounty: http://blockchain.info/address/1JppeHVdYQEBGR4uHVTqLQsb2FY1wUTziH

The wallet shows $0, yet at IW I clearly have 0.105 BTC of which I can still send, hopefully.

I look forward to having some light shed on this.

~Bruno K~

PS: To be clear, the wallet address is 1JppeHVdYQEBGR4uHVTqLQsb2FY1wUTziH

I'm pretty sure that it's because Instawallet transfer BTC from their mass amount of wallets, so like if you transfered BTC1 to that wallet, and somebody requested a payout of BTC1, it would get the coins from your wallet to save on fees.
Phinnaeus Gage
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Re: instawallet has fallen new owner stealing
March 16, 2013, 08:00:41 PM
#114
Quote from: Raoul Duke on March 16, 2013, 07:56:01 PM
Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on March 16, 2013, 07:52:22 PM
Quote from: Herodes on March 16, 2013, 07:37:35 PM
Quote from: thewindrock on March 16, 2013, 07:11:38 PM
im actually an itelectual bad ass I was about to send the 740 btc to a secure wallet I was just using instawallet as a quick holder for a few days as I built my new system and poof it was gone. but either way that is the amount I can afford to lose and not die over, but even if I only had 2 BTC stolen I would still try to get them back or alert other people..Im not stupid Its not like I put 20,000 bitcoins In an online wallet.

Calling troll on this one.

Wait one fuckin' minute!:

Quote from: thewindrock on March 06, 2013, 06:45:59 PM
lost over 700 coins!! wtf! this is fucked up! i was about to cash out

The title of the thread is "bit instant has been hacked".

THEN...

Quote from: thewindrock on March 06, 2013, 06:49:37 PM
I lost 700+ coins wtf is going on!

Thread title for above: please if you know anything about bitinstant stealing coins post here

...

Now he's claiming to have lost funds he's able to afford via InstantWallet--not Bit Instant.

Well, somebody blow me, jack me off, and stick a finger two fingers three fingers up my ass.

It seems the "intelectual badass", translation: moron, can't even tell the difference between bitinstant and instawallet.

Thus, deserves to loose his money. I'm guessing he went to Pattaya and still is bitter about paying for services when he picked up the wrong gender. (think about that last sentence)
Raoul Duke
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Re: instawallet has fallen new owner stealing
March 16, 2013, 07:56:01 PM
#113
Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on March 16, 2013, 07:52:22 PM
Quote from: Herodes on March 16, 2013, 07:37:35 PM
Quote from: thewindrock on March 16, 2013, 07:11:38 PM
im actually an itelectual bad ass I was about to send the 740 btc to a secure wallet I was just using instawallet as a quick holder for a few days as I built my new system and poof it was gone. but either way that is the amount I can afford to lose and not die over, but even if I only had 2 BTC stolen I would still try to get them back or alert other people..Im not stupid Its not like I put 20,000 bitcoins In an online wallet.

Calling troll on this one.

Wait one fuckin' minute!:

Quote from: thewindrock on March 06, 2013, 06:45:59 PM
lost over 700 coins!! wtf! this is fucked up! i was about to cash out

The title of the thread is "bit instant has been hacked".

THEN...

Quote from: thewindrock on March 06, 2013, 06:49:37 PM
I lost 700+ coins wtf is going on!

Thread title for above: please if you know anything about bitinstant stealing coins post here

...

Now he's claiming to have lost funds he's able to afford via InstantWallet--not Bit Instant.

Well, somebody blow me, jack me off, and stick a finger two fingers three fingers up my ass.

It seems the "intelectual badass", translation: moron, can't even tell the difference between bitinstant and instawallet.
Or maybe it was his autocorrect that changed dumbass to badass... Roll Eyes
Intelectual dumbass would really fit perfectly. Damn you, autocorrect!
Phinnaeus Gage
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Re: instawallet has fallen new owner stealing
March 16, 2013, 07:52:22 PM
#112
Quote from: Herodes on March 16, 2013, 07:37:35 PM
Quote from: thewindrock on March 16, 2013, 07:11:38 PM
im actually an itelectual bad ass I was about to send the 740 btc to a secure wallet I was just using instawallet as a quick holder for a few days as I built my new system and poof it was gone. but either way that is the amount I can afford to lose and not die over, but even if I only had 2 BTC stolen I would still try to get them back or alert other people..Im not stupid Its not like I put 20,000 bitcoins In an online wallet.

Calling troll on this one.

Wait one fuckin' minute!:

Quote from: thewindrock on March 06, 2013, 06:45:59 PM
lost over 700 coins!! wtf! this is fucked up! i was about to cash out

The title of the thread is "bit instant has been hacked".

THEN...

Quote from: thewindrock on March 06, 2013, 06:49:37 PM
I lost 700+ coins wtf is going on!

Thread title for above: please if you know anything about bitinstant stealing coins post here

...

Now he's claiming to have lost funds he's able to afford via InstantWallet--not Bit Instant.

Well, somebody blow me, jack me off, and stick a finger two fingers three fingers up my ass.
Herodes
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Re: instawallet has fallen new owner stealing
March 16, 2013, 07:37:35 PM
#111
Quote from: thewindrock on March 16, 2013, 07:11:38 PM
im actually an itelectual bad ass I was about to send the 740 btc to a secure wallet I was just using instawallet as a quick holder for a few days as I built my new system and poof it was gone. but either way that is the amount I can afford to lose and not die over, but even if I only had 2 BTC stolen I would still try to get them back or alert other people..Im not stupid Its not like I put 20,000 bitcoins In an online wallet.

Calling troll on this one.
Phinnaeus Gage
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Re: instawallet has fallen new owner stealing
March 16, 2013, 07:34:03 PM
#110
Quote from: yodog on March 16, 2013, 06:27:49 AM
My 52.39 btc is also 'missing' sent from one instawallet to another address and the coins are not showing up in the block chain, and the new address isn't showing up either cause its never been used.....

and yet on the address where the 52.39 btc were sent from shows unspent coins but they are no longer in the instawallet Sad

http://blockchain.info/unspent?active=17iQhdkNpoxYcNNcXodPjTWUqSuTC8XaF4&format=html    

I like IW, but something has changed recently and I can't put my finger on it.

Before, I was able to see my wallet in BlockChain and it will have the same amount as I view it on IW's URL page. Now the BlockChain continues to read 0 available with the coins set to some other address(es), yet still see a balance on the IW URL page. I'm still able to send coins and they get to their destination rather quickly.

To see what I mean, here's an address I set up to pay out a bounty: http://blockchain.info/address/1JppeHVdYQEBGR4uHVTqLQsb2FY1wUTziH

The wallet shows $0, yet at IW I clearly have 0.105 BTC of which I can still send, hopefully.

I look forward to having some light shed on this.

~Bruno K~

PS: To be clear, the wallet address is 1JppeHVdYQEBGR4uHVTqLQsb2FY1wUTziH
thewindrock
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Re: instawallet has fallen new owner stealing
March 16, 2013, 07:11:38 PM
#109
im actually an itelectual bad ass I was about to send the 740 btc to a secure wallet I was just using instawallet as a quick holder for a few days as I built my new system and poof it was gone.. yeah i cant really afford to lose that.. your right
yodog
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Re: instawallet has fallen new owner stealing
March 16, 2013, 03:16:44 PM
#108
Quote from: Raoul Duke on March 16, 2013, 12:27:52 PM
yodog, send a PM to user Davout here in the forum. He's the only one who can help you.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=1929


I did no response, I also left a message in the instawallet thread... and wow I sent 1 email to support, and posted the same situation a couple times where others had same issue and the guy tore my head off... (see below)

Quote
Hey, why don't you open an additionnal 10 threads complaining about this issue ?
Don't forget to send 5 PMs and 3 e-mails to the support. Oh wait, you can also tweet and facebook it.
Hey, and maybe you want my personal phone number to text me every five minutes about your 50 BTC ?
And you know, my personal address to stand in front of my door, knock every 30 seconds and wonder if I'm taking care of your issue.

Protip : If you have an issue with Instawallet send an e-mail to the support, and look at a calendar, if the current date is a saturday or a sunday, chances are I am currently not working, so kick back, read a book, get some flowers for your wife, do something interesting, go have a walk, get some good time. You will be taken care of. Nagging about your issue using every possible channel is just incredibly rude and useless.

I work almost every day to take care of stuff and help where help is needed, Instawallet is a free service, so I'd appreciate not being constantly harassed by people who think waiting twelve hours is too much and that they're the only ones to need attention. If you don't like this please go store your coins elsewhere.

Thank you very much for your understanding and consideration.
instaBoost
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Re: instawallet has fallen new owner stealing
March 16, 2013, 02:00:30 PM
#107
40k in a online wallet? we official reached a new low in intelligence...
Raoul Duke
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Re: instawallet has fallen new owner stealing
March 16, 2013, 12:27:52 PM
#106
yodog, send a PM to user Davout here in the forum. He's the only one who can help you.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=1929
yodog
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Re: instawallet has fallen new owner stealing
March 16, 2013, 06:27:49 AM
#105
My 52.39 btc is also 'missing' sent from one instawallet to another address and the coins are not showing up in the block chain, and the new address isn't showing up either cause its never been used.....

and yet on the address where the 52.39 btc were sent from shows unspent coins but they are no longer in the instawallet Sad

http://blockchain.info/unspent?active=17iQhdkNpoxYcNNcXodPjTWUqSuTC8XaF4&format=html   
rpietila
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Re: instawallet has fallen new owner stealing
March 15, 2013, 12:31:10 PM
#104
Quote from: BadBear on March 15, 2013, 11:28:42 AM

I told my girlfriend that old piece of shit laptop would come in handy one day.

I have a Raspberry Pi that is not connected to a network and only runs the wallet generation software over Linux. It is in an office that has 2 recording security cameras watching both entrances and this is in the middle part, not seen by a camera. I was told to put it in a safe when I am not there, and I could, but that is too much as I will anyway be aware if someone enters the premises, because of the alarm.
RodeoX
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Re: instawallet has fallen new owner stealing
March 15, 2013, 11:57:33 AM
#103
For others reading this, you have not been scammed if you have failed to do your own security. $40k should NEVER be online unless you are about to buy something for $40k. In an online wallet I would not want more than $300. Because that is how much I am willing to loose and not cry. Also consider paying for a VPN.
If I use two factor authentication over a VPN to access $100. I am not among the low hanging fruit.
BadBear
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Re: instawallet has fallen new owner stealing
March 15, 2013, 11:28:42 AM
#102
Quote from: rpietila on March 15, 2013, 07:12:47 AM
Quote from: molecular on March 15, 2013, 06:39:45 AM

Or in your hotwallet, for that matter.


Or in any wallet whose private key has been generated by a computer connected to a network or having a wireless connection or an USB port or a printer...

I told my girlfriend that old piece of shit laptop would come in handy one day.
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